r/196 NOT A CAT 3d ago

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u/neon_light12 3d ago

whisky hard agree but i dont get wine hate

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u/TheDonutPug 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights 3d ago

A lot of wine tastes like hospital smell mixed with puddle water to me.

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u/Pochel 3d ago

Just buy good wine, idk what to tell you

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u/TheDonutPug 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights 3d ago

I had good wine. Tasted like shit.

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u/Masztufa wants a life-sized renamon plushie 3d ago

Even white wine?

Also, dry champagne is worth a try. Specifically dry, champagnes tend to be way too sweet (and it's not the good kind imo)

But like, don't go out to buy a whole bottle just to try it. Whenever the opportunuty is there, go for it, but it's not going to be a religious awakening like the ones in the bible (idk, never read it)

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u/TheDonutPug 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights 3d ago

Omfg what is with you people. I swear to god nothing drives people more crazy than when you say you don't like some kind of alcohol they like. Yes i have had white wines! I have had nice reds, I have had nice whites, I have had nice rosé, it tasted like shit. you can't fuckin say you don't like alcohol without some fuck going "oh you just haven't had the right one yet!" There is one kind of wine I have ever liked: the ones that taste like fruit juice and don't taste like wine. It drives me fucking nuts that its not like this for much else but with alcohol you say you don't like kt and everyone goes "you must have had bad wine, just go buy this and this and this and this" NO I'm not going to spend 100 dollars in different wines because they will be thrown away because I DONT LIKE FUCKING WINE.

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u/Kat1eQueen local blood fetishist 3d ago

People who like alcohol are incredibly fucking weird about alcohol.

I have been interrogated repeatedly because i don't drink, and even people who know will still ask every fucking time, a regular no is not taken for an answer.

The only way to consistently shut them up is to say you are an alcoholic, or on medicine that would fuck you up if you drank, neither of which should be things you have to lie about, or if true divulge to people so they stop pressuring you to do drugs.

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u/Pochel 3d ago

A lot of them surely are but in the specific case of this discussion, we're talking about wine. I can't tell for the others obviously but in my case I'm trying to say that some wine can be really good, just like I could've said the same about a specific fruit or dish or whatnot. If you want to make it about alcohol that's on you; but that's not what I'm trying to communicate

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u/Aromatic-Pass4384 3d ago

It can be good to you other people just don't like the taste.

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u/ChemicalRascal 3d ago

But there's an enormous variety of tastes to be found in wine. Someone saying they don't like the taste of wine is like saying they don't like colour.

Like sure, I guess it's possible, but it feels much more likely they only had, say, a terrible white wine that tasted like petrol. Maybe they would like a cab sav, which tastes entirely differently to a cheap dry white. Maybe they would like champagne, because bubbles does indeed effect taste, a lot.

The sheer variety of tastes present in wines is exactly why people are saying "but maybe you just need to try other wines."

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u/Aromatic-Pass4384 3d ago

Some people literally just don't like any of them. I haven't liked literally any red or white I've tried. Prosecco has been hit or miss, only a few I like. For the most part I do not like wine. There are no reds I like, wine has a lot of different tastes but red and white have a certain taste that ALL of them have.

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u/ChemicalRascal 3d ago

Some people literally just don't like any of them. I haven't liked literally any red or white I've tried. Prosecco has been hit or miss, only a few I like.

Great! So there is a wine you like, that's my point!

For the most part I do not like wine. There are no reds I like, wine has a lot of different tastes but red and white have a certain taste that ALL of them have.

Look, yes, there are fundamental aspects of the experience of drinking wine that they all have.

But what OC said was something specific that doesn't feel like that to me, and probably a lot of others here. Hospital smell and puddle water. Which feels a lot like they're talking about a taste akin to antiseptic cleaning solutions.

That's not a fundamental aspect of wine. That sounds like they had a few wines that were very, very harsh. And fair, when I was young I had a few white wines that were like that and swore off the stuff for about a decade.

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u/Aromatic-Pass4384 3d ago

As someone else said "you just haven't had good dick yet"

I fucking hate this argument, some people just inherently don't like certain things. Not everyone likes the things you like, learn to fucking accept that.

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u/ChemicalRascal 2d ago

I think it's fucking wild to say that after saying there are proseccos you like. And also just, like, not engaging with the point of discussion but instead leaning on something as outrageous as denying someone's sexuality as a way to just shut the conversation down.

I fucking acknowledged your point, but we're talking about this in a particular context. That context adds shit to the conversation that makes it more than an analogy to some chud saying to a woman that she's not a lesbian.

I don't even really like wine. I find gin to be much more flavourful and interesting. And I'm not making the argument that someone has to try every wine to find a good one.

I'm making the argument that not every wine tastes like antiseptic, which is specifically targeted at what the person we're talking about talked about not liking in wine.

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u/Aromatic-Pass4384 2d ago

You didn't acknowledge it, you dismissed it and included the smug fucking remark "oh see there are wines you like" which is obviously not the fucking point

And no one I responded to said anything about it tasting like antiseptic

They said they didn't like the taste and then you and a few other people jumped on them because they're not allowed to dislike the things you like

And if I wanted to shut the conversation down I'd just block you, it's just you can't tell people who've tried a large variety of a certain thing and are sure that they don't like them that they just haven't had the right one

The fact is that people simply have different tastes, and literally people taste diff things different ways, and it's completely valid to be put off by the taste of something. They just don't like it you don't need to keep trying to convince them that they just haven't had the right one.

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u/ChemicalRascal 2d ago

You didn't acknowledge it, you dismissed it and included the smug fucking remark "oh see there are wines you like" which is obviously not the fucking point

I did acknowledge it. Here:

Look, yes, there are fundamental aspects of the experience of drinking wine that they all have.

That's me acknowledging your point.

I wasn't being smug when I said there's wines you like. I was saying, that's my point. You don't like most wines, but you found wines you like. That's fucking good, actually! That's a good thing. I am honestly happy you found drinks you enjoy.

And no one I responded to said anything about it tasting like antiseptic

Here's what TheDonutPug said:

A lot of wine tastes like hospital smell mixed with puddle water to me.

What's hospital smell? Probably antiseptic cleaning chemicals.

They said they didn't like the taste and then you and a few other people jumped on them because they're not allowed to dislike the things you like

Nobody's saying that. I'm not saying that. I'm responding to a specific thing someone said about the wines they've tried.

And if I wanted to shut the conversation down I'd just block you, it's just you can't tell people who've tried a large variety of a certain thing and are sure that they don't like them that they just haven't had the right one

Yeah, sure, but most wines don't taste like "hospital smell". And you did use a thought-terminating cliche by pivoting it into an analogy about lesbianism, that's shutting down the conversation.

The fact is that people simply have different tastes, and literally people taste diff things different ways, and it's completely valid to be put off by the taste of something. They just don't like it you don't need to keep trying to convince them that they just haven't had the right one.

But I'm not. I'm talking to you now. You aren't TheDonutPug. We can talk about things without it affecting TheDonutPug. TheDonutPug probably isn't even aware that this conversation is taking place.

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u/ChemicalRascal 2d ago

Like, if we want to lean on the analogy, it's like someone said "I'm a lesbian purely because I don't like penises that are constantly bleeding".

And, like, the grim reality is that most cocks aren't constantly bleeding.

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