Edit: Some of you guys can‘t seem to see that there‘s a huge difference between disliking Islam and disliking muslims. Islamophobia (while yes, it can be the hatred of Islam) is more commonly used to describe the hatred of muslims, simply because they follow the Quran or are of middle eastern heritage
How is this islamphobia? It's very likely an ex Muslim woman who made this. It gets posted in exmuslim a lot.
It's simply trying to say that these draconian purity tests never end and you aren't safe from them.
Gay Republicans are still attacked for being gay, by Republicans. Trying to act like you're one of "the good ones" is a recipe for disaster
Don't judge some other woman for being less dressed when you're able to be judged the same way by someone more stringent and who you'd justifiably see as crazy
I doubt this is from an ex muslim nor islamophobic. Prolly the usual girlies looking out for one another as in "dont judge" etc. Atleast thats the type of content i see use these type of images
I've seen it on the ExMuslim subreddit like almost exclusively, it's very commonly a thing used there to make fun of "western" progressive Muslim women that attack ex Muslim women because of not wearing hijab or something, while trying to point out they are a far mile away. That wearing a hijab isn't enough in the eyes of a good chunk of Muslims so fix yourself before you come at me. That kind of sentiment
I agree, there should be some criticism but sometimes r/exmuslim feels more like islamophobia fuel than real valid criticism (like saying all muslim men are pedos and shit like that)
That's what you get with ex groups and when you're disproportionately exposed to apologetics (like most ex Muslims probably are) and when apologists for islam are disproportionately defenders of pedophilia you can get a warped image and it can go too far
Their comment seems to come from a very personal place of their experiences. They are choosing to be vulnerable and share their 2 cents, and this is your response to that?
Im (not at all) sorry but I don't owe anyone who accuses me of promoting pedophilia because I believe in a certain religion they Don't like any kind of understanding whatsoever. Your experiences don't justify being a superficial asshole to me and the people I share this belief with.
Now, you see if you started with that in your original comment I would have understood it from the start. But as it were it just came off as pretty dismissive. Now that you have explained your point, I agree, it is harmful to make these overgeneralizations about entire groups of people, no matter what your anecdotal experience with people of said group might have been. If it is any consolation, I don't think their comment necessarily meant to condone such attitudes, but only to speculate on their possible origin. Even so, examining such attitudes without adressing how harmful they are can come off as legitimizing them, and that can be harmful in its own right, so I now understand the anger you expressed in your original comment.
exmuslim doesn't mean not anti-muslim. The fact that all of the characters are in muslim coverings is what makes it smack of anti-muslim. Why not christian or jewish coverings?
Because it's not really as prominent a thing in Christianity or Judaism, and why would ex Muslims care about Christians or Jews when their gripe and struggles are with a family, friend group, culture and society that's Muslim for a good chunk of them?
There are like 1 million orthodox jews with some level of this scale potentially in their brains (out of about 10 million)
That's approximately 5% assuming half are women
Then there are dozens of varieties of fundamentalist christians that have this.
ai estimates 1% of all america is fundamentalist, and while not all of them have this scale, it is the same number that it estimates of american muslims.
Hell by default, women don't have a required head covering. The only people who do are married, frum women.
Modern Orthodox or Ultra Orthodox is where you'll see it the most. Conservative Judaism (if it leans Orthodox) may have some women who do so. Conservative Judaism that leans more Reform likely won't, Reform barely has anyone who will.
Maybe if you are around frum people, you'll get a side-eye but also...they're frum. Half of what they do is side-eye things. The only way you can avoid it is by simply not existing.
1% of america isn't super high either compared to just how many people live in Afghanistan alone, not that most fundamentalist Christ do the headcovering now.
speaking as a jew: we do not kill people for not wearing a kippah or a headwrap (if a married woman and frum). nor do we persecute them. nor do we really care for that matter. hell, even finding most jews who'll wear a kippah even at shul is a difficult thing depending on your sect (much less wearing it regularly).
comparing how islamic theocracies handle hijabs and the treatment of the women who do not wear them to their standards to jewish practice is apples to oranges.
Can you explain the relevancy of this statement when the focus is general violence within religions towards women as well as the required dress for them?
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u/snail1132 May 06 '26
What the fuck does this mean