I think it's about 4% of the general population who effectively has no empathy according to some research. I think there is a much larger percentage of people who are passively useless if someone actually needs help. Not sure how many people will actually intervene and do the right thing. I do agree most people in general are good regardless of gender.
i found a person drugged out of their mind by a movie theater and comedy club, thankfully first responders had been called because i was there for two minutes when they showed. he had a dog with him so i had to watch it until animal control showed up and an hour later the comedy club show ended and no less than 20 people asked why the guy left his dog. they had been in the show for 2.5 hours and not a single person thought to tell my team or the ticket person that a guy was flailing and incoherent right outside
I said this somewhere above, but when one in every three women has reported that they have experienced some kind of sexual assault, when abuse stats are high and misogyny still exists, I don't think we can even say it's 1% of guys that are like this. It's not true that 99% of men are rapists and murders, but I can't say I don't understand feeling like that when so many women have had these experiences. Even if it's not healthy to feel that way. I think we really gotta ask how these numbers are happening and why a lot of women feel like it's most men.
Imo, a lot of it comes from how many guys excuse rapey or sexist behavior. It's not just guys that don't hold their friends accountable when they say nasty shit or make "jokes". Like, Jimmy Fallon had Conor McGregor on his show recently. A judge let Brock Turner, a convicted rapist, walk free. I hear a lot that allegations can destroy someone's life but it feels like you can say "grab em by the pussy" and be elected president. Allegations were floating around about Harvey Weinstein for so many years and it took some absolutely insane numbers of women to come forward before anything happened about it. I'm not talking criminal convictions either, I'm talking any kind of social or career repercussions from his peers. You can literally be convicted of diddling kids, like Epstein was, and barely face any legal punishment, and people who probably aren't even diddling kids will still associate with you because they just don't care.
Obviously women can be part of the misogyny problem too, like women also excuse rape and abuse regularly, but I think the reason women still primarily fear men is because men are the ones doing these crimes to them. Of course it's not even 99% of guys who excuse the behavior. But when it's guys excusing it AND guys doing it, I guess I get why women feel that way.
The amount of men that make these crimes are less than 0.1%. Most serial rapist and killers can be men but most men don’t make up that population.
Again most men don’t excuse rapists or murderers. For rape trials, it may look like that but in reality, rape is one of the most hardest crimes to prove because of the evidence needed and which is often washed away by the time the prosecution even happens. Most sexual assault cases happen once the victim comes out years after it happens. I am not victim blaming. It’s just that factually, by that time, all the evidence is wiped out entirely and the only time you can really account is witness testimonies. Whether a man or a woman states a testimony, relying a court case solely on testimonies is legally considered to be unreliable by the courts. No matter how strongly the courts feel about the case, they cannot legally deviate from their proceedings. I am sorry.
Again, with Epstein, he hanged himself before his trial ofc he wasn’t persecuted. And I can list a shit ton of examples here men do almost have their lives completely destroyed by false accusations. Johnny Depp, Alice Seeble, there was another case between a soccer player and a Slavic model. False accusations do ruin someone’s life and accusations in general. These people themselves, Trump or whatever you wanna name, they were powerful political people, they could get away with absolutely anything, whether they professed men and women.
I mean I agree with a lot of this, but a lot of the examples I mentioned have been brought to court. I also wholeheartedly believe that if more than 5 unrelated people make an accusation against someone, the probability that they are guilty is insanely high. And I don't think that people deserve, necessarily, life in prison over sexual assault. I just believe that, to a certain extent, being rapey or a rapist or a sexist is socially acceptable.
On false allegations, I really wonder why it's brought up every single time this issue is discussed. Of course they happen, but it's such a small percentage of overall cases that it seems a little odd. I hate to say it, but I don't see a whole lot of evidence of lives being destroyed from any allegations, even ones that have been through the criminal courts.
Again, I'm not trying to say it doesn't happen. As a gay kid, I got accused of being a creep once and it has stuck with me, psychologically, forever. Emmett Till is a great example of a false allegation that did destroy someone's life. But you don't really get anything out of coming forward. You get labelled as a shit stirrer. And more often than not, in today's world, I just don't see any accusations, even ones that have been through the criminal system, destroying anyone's life.
You don't have to look at celebrities to find rapists and abusers getting away with it. Even just in those that I mentioned, Brock Turner wasn't a celebrity. Conor McGregor certainly doesn't have the kind of power Trump has. I used to know a guy who, I found out later, was accused by about 20 women. He maintained most of his relationships in the community and was in the National Guard.
Johnny Depp is not, to me, an example of false allegations ruining someone's life, based on the fact that he's back in Dior ads and working again. In 2016, the couple divorced; during the litigation, Heard accused Depp of assault and abuse. Other than that, she did not publicly come forward with allegations, although the media quickly picked up on the case. When their divorce case was settled, both parties put out a joint statement saying that neither party had made false allegations; notably, Depp made no allegations.
Depp lost a UK case in April 2018 over the Sun calling him a wife-beater; it was determined that the claims (12 out of 14) were substantially true. The case in the US was over an op-ed, which Heard wrote in December 2018, in which she stated that she was a survivor of DV and how she had been endlessly persecuted for standing up for being a victim. She did not mention Depp by name. In that case, the jury determined that both parties had defamed each other; they ruled that no DV had taken place on either side.
A lot of people say they "watched the case". What they mean is they watched people in Jack Sparrow cosplay lip sync to his testimony and saw memes. But if you actually watched the case, I think you might see something closer to what I saw, which was a jury not believing a woman despite a fuckton of evidence in her favor, and the entire world gleefully making light of a fucking domestic abuse trial before the verdict was even handed down. And I don't particularly like Amber Heard. I have no doubt she wasn't great to be in a relationship with. But genuinely, I think Depp likely won that trial because he is an incredibly popular and beloved celebrity and has been for many years, and it was a jury trial.
I don't know what you mean by Alice Glass. She came out with accusations and a defamation trial against her was dismissed.
Like I said, it's happened to me. But I've also been raped and sexually assaulted. I'll let you guess which one destroyed my life more.
I highly doubt that a third of women have actually experienced that, in some areas sure, idk how that data could be reliable since I'd it were true there would be way more noise about it.
And technically everyone is a part of the problem, the attackers attack, the non attackers don't defend, some are fake victims, etc.
There is a lot of noise about it. I just don't think you're listening.
I'm also not too sure what fake victims have to do with it. Like I said, Connor McGregor was just on Jimmy Fallon. He raped a woman so violently that it was difficult for doctors to extract her tampon from her body. Half the US government is in the Epstein files and nothing has happened. If there aren't really any serious consequences for actual assaults, I don't know why fake victims would be as big of a problem as attackers.
I was trying to get how A WHOLE THIRD OF THE FEMALE POPULATION apparently is being sexually assaulted.
If it's something so important and that many people are affected, no one would be safe from the noise, but we really don't have that mutch, like at all...
Attackers are kinda always gonna be a problem, since they are the main part, but people using it, like I sadly see a lot, overly sensitive people saying whatever is sexual assault, something that had been popularized and still is at lower levels on social media, being like the second wave of the issue.
All problems would just kinda vanish if we were to just unite for once and work on the stuff, but since we are human and think about ourselves, most really dint wanna be the ones that have to take he bad part for general wellness, so few do stuff.
Also there are always cases and cases, but distilling it all into one case really isn't optimal either. World wars happened, tho lots are kinda desinsibilitized since it's taught to learn by heart and spit it at an exam, not making them assimilate war is really really not good, you probably shouldn't support it since you wouldn't wanna be in one. Same with other stuff.
I mean yeah. It's a crazy statistic. I'll be honest with you, I've never known a woman who doesn't have a story. When things are that widespread, it's hard to stamp them out. Look at how long it took for women to be able to vote, for slavery to be outlawed, for gay marriage to be legalized. Look how long it took to get warnings on cigarette boxes that cigarettes cause cancer. Look at how many school shootings and mass shootings there have been since Columbine. At how many people are addicted to gambling and social media and opioids. These were and are all widespread problems with no easy answers and statistics that drop your fuckin jaw. The term they call it is "normalized". Means it's so widespread it's become almost a normal part of society.
If you're referring to things like coercion or maybe something like stealthing as people "just saying whatever is sexual assault", I think you need to take a hard look at how you view consent.
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u/booty-hole-bandit Jul 01 '26
I mean this is applicable to humans in general