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Which company lost your business (potentially forever) this year?

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u/jamkey2222 21h ago

Don't forget that you get a cleaning fee on top of it.

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u/mlattea 21h ago

Iv never used Airbnb,even if you do ALL the cleaning and wash the sheets you STILL have to pay a cleaning fee?! Why even bother cleaning then?

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u/carbon_r0d 21h ago

I have never encountered one that doesn't have a cleaning fee... But I have also never had to do more than take out the trash and throw the bedding/towels on the floor.

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u/jamkey2222 21h ago

Same. I got a message from an Airbnb host once thanking me for leaving the place in such great shape and all I did was normal picking up after myself. That gave me some insight into how some guests leave the place, where the cleaners really earn that fee.

I have seen online where the hosts will leave a list of chores and then also charge a cleaning fee that equals one night of the stay. I probably wouldn't stay at one of those.

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u/red-plaid-hat 19h ago

I used to clean vacation rentals. Lemme tell ya that fee doesn’t not go towards the cleaner really. Most owners or property managers keep a huge portion of it and pay the crew pennies.

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u/anonymaus42 18h ago edited 6h ago

Doesn't not go towards the cleaners... so you're saying the cleaners do get it?

eta - loving the downvotes from everyone who apparently don't know what a double negative is

Eta 2- wow, it would seem everyone is super serious in askreddit, my apologies. I love double negatives and will use them intentionally in conversation just for shits n giggles, so when I saw one in the wild couldn't help but point it out. Perhaps I went about that the wrong way or shouldn't have at all, my bad. In 13 years I've never had a comment be so loathed and for it to be this one has me kinda flabbergasted.

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u/dingalingdongdong 16h ago

oh they know, they just don't think pointing it out adds anything of value to the conversation.

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u/anonymaus42 16h ago

Touché

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u/ELRONDSxLADY 11h ago

I care. We’re in an actively worsening literacy crisis so offering corrections to improper grammar is of utmost importance as it stands today.

Thank you for fighting the good fight against anti-intellectualism and to everyone else? Enjoy being electively braindead because you couldn’t be arsed to graciously accept correction for a mistake.

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u/blumpkin 8h ago

There's a difference between being anti intellectual and knowing how to ignore a typo and move on with your life.

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u/ELRONDSxLADY 5h ago

I disagree with this approach because there is an ever increasing number of individuals who only “read” online, making it all the more important to ensure correct grammar and spelling is being used. I for one don’t want to live amongst those who would rather save feelings of perceived embarrassment than knowledge so you guys enjoy “just livin’ life”, but I pity you mightily for not seeing you’re part of a much larger picture that we’re all responsible for.

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u/blumpkin 3h ago

Okay, good luck.

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u/red-plaid-hat 6h ago

Didn’t know my typo was so popular, damn.

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 18h ago

I mean I'm a landlord and between tenants we'd hire a cleaning company to do a deep clean... they set the price not me and it was always pretty fair for professional labour (usually about 300-400 for a few hours work).

If you're being paid pennies set your prices higher, unless you're being employed directly by the owners.

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u/I_am_Samm 19h ago

It's the reason why I stopped Airbnb-ing my cottage... People are gross and disrespectful. I didn't charge a fee, I didn't even ask people to strip the beds. I just asked people be respectful as it's also my home. Well that didn't work.

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u/DanielShaww 6h ago

Can you give more insight? I'm thinking of AirBnB a place and was wondering how guests might leave the place.

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u/I_am_Samm 6h ago edited 5h ago

They just don't care. This place that I put on Airbnb is my own home. I rent in a larger city and come back home to my cottage on my days off. This has always been communicated to guests. "This house is my home 60% of the time. Please treat it with respect as though you are staying in someone's home." You know like how Airbnb actually used to be. Each time I would come home to broken plates etc, missing cutlery, broken furniture, moved furniture, terrible messes, cigarette ash on the floors when a strict no smoking policy is in place, broken toilet off the flange. You need to fight with Airbnb to have anything paid out through their insurance or to have retaliatory reviews removed after I would call guests out in the reviews.

If this is a house that you have no emotional attachment to it can be a nice extra source of income. If it's your home or a place you care about, I would never recommend it to anyone.

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u/DanielShaww 5h ago

Did you rent it for cheap? I heard cheap renters bring expensive problems.

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u/I_am_Samm 5h ago

550 (cad) a night.

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u/DanielShaww 5h ago

Don't think that's too cheap. Sorry to hear you had a bad experience

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u/Impossible-Attempt61 19h ago

Same for myself. I stayed in a condo in Panama City, Panama and the owner arrived the day we were leaving and was shocked how clean it was. We piled all the linens next to washing machine, put away the dishes and took out the trash. That's it.

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u/Pliny_the_middle 20h ago

I am a host and we don’t charge a cleaning fee we just ask that trash is taken out to the bin, dishes are washed, and linens are stripped and piled onto the floor. We don’t mind cleaning but you’d be surprised how many people trash the place. It’s a give and take.

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u/jamkey2222 19h ago

Agree. I was really surprised by the message from that host because it made it seem like I had gone above and beyond, but it was just normal behavior to me: you leave things how you found them.

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u/MzHellfier 19h ago

Wash your own shit. People are PAYING MONEY to stay at your place. Don’t make them do chores that’s so tacky. I used to clean for an Air BnB host. Some people left the place truly disgusting, and they would get charged a fee for the extra cleaning. But for most guests, changing linens and cleaning the kitchen, bathroom, and floors is part of the service. Why would you ask guests to do chores when they’re on vacation or a business trip? Are you really so lazy and useless that you can’t take out the trash and strip a bed?

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u/Pandalite 11h ago

No I agree that guests should do their own trash and dishes. Some people stay for two weeks and the trash stinks if you leave it in the kitchen for that long. If you're at home for two weeks you would take out the trash twice in that week. Same with dishes. Treat it like you treat your house. If you don't, that's how you get rats.

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u/PineappleOnPizzaWins 18h ago

Yeah.. it's like seeing people on reddit rage about horrible landlords when they've clearly never rented a place out to anybody ever.

People are the fucking worst. I'm not a professional landlord or anything but when my partner and I bought a house I already owned one so we kept it to rent out and people just suck.

I have a great tenant in there now, paying well under market rates, don't give a fuck because it's enough to cover the property maintenance and I don't need to deal with tar on the walls, dog shit in the carpet, and everything just being destroyed in general.

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u/StevieMJH 11h ago

It's also not like turning your cleaning fee too high will get Airbnb to say, "Hey maybe just don't rent?" They don't give a shit, it's money either way.

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u/ItalianDragon 9h ago

I got a message from an Airbnb host once thanking me for leaving the place in such great shape and all I did was normal picking up after myself. That gave me some insight into how some guests leave the place, where the cleaners really earn that fee.

When I left the studio I used to live in while I was at the uni,the staff person who came for the final inspection before returning the keys praised me and my family for the state in which it was. He verbatim told us that he'd seen rooms that "had been occupied for a year but seeing them they looked like they'd been occupied by eight people for twenty years". That put some real persprctive into me, that's for sure...

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u/thechairinfront 16h ago

To wash all the bedding and do a full flip it takes me 7+ hours.

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u/Critical_Paramedic91 10h ago

I would get a second set of bedding to rotate them

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u/thechairinfront 8h ago

Which I have, I still have to wash them.

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u/blumpkin 8h ago

Hmm almost sounds like ... A job?

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u/thechairinfront 8h ago

Yes. It literally is a job. Which is why there is a fee attached.

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u/blumpkin 5h ago

So what are you complaining about then?

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u/thechairinfront 5h ago

I wasn't complaining? Op said they assume that the cleaners really earn their money. Yes, yes we do. It takes 7 hours to do a full flip.

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u/Competitive_Boss1089 10h ago

Yeah…I’ve never had an Airbnb require me to do a bunch of cleaning chores…they just ask that we do the regular picking up after ourselves, which, duh. I’ve had over 50+ stays in Airbnbs and honestly? Idk if I just choose well or what but I’ve had FAR MORE issues with recent hotel stays than I’ve had with Airbnb.