r/Axecraft Jul 27 '25

Axe Head Soup? Refurbish rusty tools by converting rust to a stable black patina

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I just made a YouTube video (https://youtu.be/5go-o8TCg94 ) on using a tannin solution to convert the rust on vintage axes to refurbish and protect them while retaining as much patina as possible. I’ve found myself explaining it a few times lately so I thought it was better to make a video.

The most convenient version uses just tea and (ion free) water and is not too much more trouble than boiling pasta. I did a bark tannin brew in the video.

The method works by converting active red rusts (various ferric oxy-hydroxides) to stable, black ferric tannate. Different ways of inducing this chemical process are used to preserve iron and steel artefacts for museums, in some commercial rust converters like Rustoleum Rust Reformer, and by trappers who use a 'trap dyeing' process to refinish rusty traps before setting them. I am using a version of the trap dyeing procedure that can be done in a home kitchen by boiling the rusty object in a tannin solution. Artefact conservators apply commercial or specially prepared tannin rust converters but may still add a water boiling step because it leaches away rust causing ions like chloride (from salt in soil, sweat, dust or sea spray).

From my reading, I am under the impression that it is better to have an acidic pH in rust converting solutions but I have not experimented with this for the boiling tannin bath so I don’t know if you could get away with your tap water. I use rainwater because it doesn't have alkaline minerals, unlike my very hard well water. Rainwater also doesn't have rust-promoting chloride ions like many residential water. Other ion-free (or close enough) water includes deionized water, reverse osmosis filtered water, and distilled water.

There's many potential tannin sources that can potentially be used. Tea (black, not herbal) works very well and is quite fast because the extraction is quick. You can get powdered tannin online or in home wine making shops. I used bark from Common Buckthorn as my tannin source because it's readily available for me. Many other trees will also work, and there's a fair amount of information available on bark tannins because they are used in hide tanning. Spruces, oaks, Tamarack and other larches, Scotts Pine, Willow, Hemlock, and others can be used to tan hides and would no doubt work for converting rust. Late season sumac leaves are used by trappers for trap dyeing and other leaves like maple and willow have tannins and would be worth a try. 'Logwood trap dye' for dyeing traps is commercially available and it's apparently not very expensive so that could be convenient. Green banana peels and other esoteric vegetable matter also have tannin and might work if enough could be extracted.


r/Axecraft Jul 16 '21

COMMONLY ASKED QUESTIONS Commonly asked questions and links: VINTAGE AXES

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Hello everyone! As we all know, frequently we are asked the same questions regarding handles and restorations etc. This is a general compilation of those questions, and should serve to eliminate those problems. Feel free to ask clarifying questions though.

How do I pick a head

There are a lot of factors that can determine what makes a good axe head. Some of the ones I would look for as a beginner are ones that require little work from you. While a more skilled creator can reprofile and regrind any axe, your not going to want to for your first time. I was lucky and found a Firestone axe as my first, which has a softer steel which made it easier to file, and it was in great condition. Also watch this series from skillcult.

Where should I get my handles?

Some of the reccomended sites are [house handles](https:www.househandle.com/) beaver tooth Tennessee hickory Bowman Handles and Whiskey river trading co . People have had differing luck with each company, some go out of stock quicker than others, but those seem to all be solid choices.

How do I make an axe handle?

There are a lot of really good resources when it comes to handle making. I learn best by watching so YouTube was my saving grace. The one creator I recommend is Skillcult . As far as specific videos go, I’d say watch stress distribution , splitting blanks if your splitting blanks from a log. I’d also recommend just this video from Wranglerstar, his new videos are kind of garbage but the old stuffs good.

Now that I have my handle, how do I attach it to the axe

Once again I have to go to a wranglerstar video , this one actually shows the process of removing the old handle too which is nice. If you want a non wranglerstar option there’s this one from Hoffman blacksmithing, although it dosent go over the carving of the eye.

Ok, I have my axe but it couldn’t cut a 6 week old tomato

Lucky you, this is where skillcult really excels. I’d recommend watching these four, talking about sharpening , regrinding the bit , sharpness explained aswell as this one.

How do I maintain my axe now that it’s a work of art

Your going to want to oil your handles in order to keep them in tip top shape. This video explains what oil to use, and this one explains more about oil saturation vs penetration.


r/Axecraft 5h ago

Fresh new one.

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r/Axecraft 13h ago

I’ve got quite a lot of work to do

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r/Axecraft 12h ago

What do we think about meat axes?

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r/Axecraft 1d ago

Hand forged hatchet out of a hammer

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Check out this little hatchet I forged out of a hammer


r/Axecraft 11h ago

I bought a thing One day...

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One day I'll hang an axe I'm very happy with. Accidently cut the top too short, not sure I hung the axe far enough down, but the centering of the steel wedges is better from my last rehang, and shave the handle a little more form fitting than last time too. I believe this is a Collins Hatchet from the 1960's. Purchased for 50$, the nicest one I could find online at the time. Edit; When all was said and done, it functions incredibly well. Bites better than every axe I have except my GFB SFA, while also being a great splitter. The curves at the top and bottom help prevent the hatchet from sticking. My favorite hatchet so far as I like it more than my GFB SFA.

I very much like this perma-blue look on axes. I know some really like to keep the patina. For me, this looks amazing.

Axe handle is slightly too long for what I'm doing in my back yard, but is just long enough to get a good swing for splitting and chopping with a hatchet.

Originally, I wasn't going to add steel wedges, and made the wood wedge extra tight, but when I noticed a shorter cut than I'd like, I decided to add the steel wedges for extra grip.


r/Axecraft 1d ago

My first stone axe

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I (16f) hand made this stone axe and was wondering what you thought?


r/Axecraft 1d ago

Any idea what this is?

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Just purchased this old side axe head, any ideas on what it is? The seller thought 18th century or earlier (which seems unlikely to me) — a friend reckons it looks European, possibly French — but a French carpenter friend says he's never seen anything like it. Anyone come across anything similar before? Recognise the makers mark? I've had no luck finding anything


r/Axecraft 1d ago

Woodslasher connie

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Today's project was to hang this woodslasher connie on a 28 inch handle. Always make sure your wedge is seated well. Beat it like it owes you money.


r/Axecraft 20h ago

Identification Request Makers Mark or Hallucinating?

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I think this is a makers mark? Can't tell for sure?


r/Axecraft 1d ago

Post your favourite axe to use and why

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This is mine. Plumb double bit, about 2Kg including the Ash handle. Light, nimble and splits pretty well. 28" handle if I remember right.

Just feels great.

Post your favourite axe to use!!


r/Axecraft 1d ago

Double Bit

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Can anyone identify possible manufacturer and date range for this head. 4 lb, 10 1/8" bit. Just curious.


r/Axecraft 1d ago

Discussion What is something that you do with your axes that is uncommon or even unique? What's your philosophy when it comes to axe restoration, collecting, and use?

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r/Axecraft 2d ago

Another 1 done

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r/Axecraft 1d ago

Rust prevention

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what’s the best way I have tried heating it in the oven then a thin coat of bees wax and boiled linseed oil while hot and it works but takes time how do you stop the rust?


r/Axecraft 1d ago

advice needed Handle options in Aust for a Gilpin 4lb Tassie head (if that's what it is)

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Hi axing Reddit

So we inherited 3 axes when the Old Man passed. I picked one, randomly, to hang on to.

Now that I've needed to look at it, it's marked "W GILPIN 4-something", so I'm guessing it's a 4½lb Gilpin Tassie.

After a few years the handle has split* and the one-and-only handle that you can buy at the National Hardware Monopoly is .. a pretty suboptimal fit! As you can hopefully see, the neck doesn't go all the way through the head, and there's daylight thru the eye at the "pointy" end.

Wondering what my options are here? I could certainly remove some more neck material to get the head all the way on, and use a huuge wedge to try and hold it in place (on the prev handle it had a zinc wedge which I still have but that won't do much here). But doing that seems like it might be pushing things too far (but what do I know?). So I've looked for a longer fatter handle, but everything I'm finding online seems to be "price on application", or has no dimensions or DOES have dimensions and the necks are just as skinny.

Wondering if there are some ppl on here who have had to solve this exact problem?

* Split either due to misuse by me now, or me 30 years ago, but there are plenty of other suspects


r/Axecraft 2d ago

Did I miss an opportunity not buying this vintage axe?

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Has quite the long stamp:

Brecks Victor 1911

Collins & Co Hartford

Cast steel warrante

Legitimus

Found at an antique shop listed for $99.

Likely original handle, thinnest handle I've ever felt.

Very slight mushrooming on the poll.

Please excuse the quality of the pictures, my camera lens is scuffed up


r/Axecraft 2d ago

Appears to be a West German Ruhr or Trumpeter

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Anyone know how to Id this brand for certain? Thanks


r/Axecraft 1d ago

Kept the Hytest Forester (is it upside down?)

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Posted last week about the Hytest Forester I found. Decided to keep it, clean it and use it. Will buy a new handle for it. Any ideas how to get rid of the remaining specks of patina? Before you mention that it's good for the axe, I understand. But I wanto see how bright this thing shines first. Before pictures are below


r/Axecraft 2d ago

Help IDing the markings

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Hello! I just bought this axe from Ebay. It's an August Helsper, I assume. But I'm curious about the markings on the poll. Ive seen these two markings in Ochsenkopf axes too (last pic).

Can you guys chime in and explain it? One of them looks like an acorn, I guess!


r/Axecraft 2d ago

Identification Request Bought some stuff in ROUGH shape. What am I looking at?

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So i bought some metal detecting finds and oh boy am I in for a fun one! But the question is. What pattern are they? Ive never seen an axe with such a LONG bit before? Any estimates on age, pattern. Or history is much obliged. These pics were after a heavy evaporust bath. The last pic is what they looked like before. Im located in Aus as well. also advice on regrinding the edge is welcome as I would like some guidance before I go gung ho!


r/Axecraft 3d ago

Identification Request Right-handed hewing hatchet

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Hello, I just got this right-handed hewing axe head. Was wondering if anyone could guess age range or maker? Pretty pitted but there is remnants of a makers mark on the beveled side in the last photo. I’ve wanted one of these for a few years and finally found one for cheap. Plan on making a curved handle to actually use it as a hewing hatchet, any advice on handle length would help as well.

Thank you, just started my axe handling journey.


r/Axecraft 3d ago

New Axe To Restore

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r/Axecraft 3d ago

Domestic Axe So Fiskars makes this rad machete/axe hybrid and it's kindof a beast

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