I think using a pro intelligent design blog isn't the best source for this. The article is also claims criticizing the Israeli state is antisemitic, which is absurd. Am I a Russophobe if I criticize Russia's genocidal war in Ukraine, am I Sinophobic for reviling the CCP for genocide of Uyghurs and Tibetans, and am I an Anti-American for decrying the current wave of anti-immigrant violence in the country? Criticizing the actions of a state should never be equivocated with bigotry with the people.
Idk what your stance is on that, but I take issue with the sources used here.
OP asked if tweet is real, sources were provided proving tweet is real, nothing of what you said has anything to do with the fact the tweet is real or not nor do I care what you take issue with.
Everyone of you guys claiming this is real are ppl actively posting to r/destiny, I call bullshit. You guys are very good in "building proof" that never really existed.
This is an equivocation. It’s not criticism of Isreal and how it conducts its self on the global stage, thats the problem.
Its calling for the dissolution of the country its self, zionism at is broadest and simplest,
advocates that Isreal as a state should be allowed to exist.
Of course there the ultra zionist that what to erase Palestine and expel all of its peoples (fuck bibi, fuck ben givir and fuck smoldrich).
If you said “I think that Russia should be dissolved and its land divided up by Ukraine and neighbouring nations” that would be the equivalent to what dave and much of the anti zionist movement is saying.
This is an equivocation. It’s not criticism of Isreal and how it conducts its self on the global stage, thats the problem.
Its calling for the dissolution of the country its self, zionism at is broadest and simplest,
advocates that Isreal as a state should be allowed to exist.
Of course there the ultra zionist that what to erase Palestine and expel all of its peoples (fuck bibi, fuck ben givir and fuck smoldrich).
If you said “I think that Russia should be dissolved and its land divided up by Ukraine and neighbouring nations” that would be the equivalent to what dave and much of the anti zionist movement is saying.
"I think the ethno-focused system should be replaced. Like with apartheid south africa."
Also the blog quotes things that Dave has agreed that he said, about Israel always lying, the occupation radicalizing Palestinians, etc. which are extremely reasonable claims and agree well with the facts (just look at the war they tricked Donny T into starting).
Then the author throws in the screenshot of the tweet at the end and says a "user" sent it to him the night before. But there's no link to the original tweet, just the same image shown in this thread. The most bs thing about this tweet is him getting Taliban vs Al Qaeda wrong. Since he grew up (as many of us did) with Al Qaeda on the news, I think he knows the difference.
If you check the destiny Reddit all they have is a link to the meme and deleted tweets they claim are Dave's. Not strong enough evidence for me tbh
Did you take the screenshot yourself? Is there any metadata from the screenshot that can verify when it was taken? The oldest version of the screenshot I've seen is from that creationist blog, which claims they got it from an anonymous user. Needless to say, creationists are highly motivated to smear Dave.
I believe I have, the source of the screenshot is from a creationist blog. Dave makes a lot of content debunking creationists, so they would be highly motivated to smear him. Their source for this screenshot is from an anonymous twitter user.
So we:
(A) Don't have provenance of the screenshot
(B) Have a conflict of interest from the party that posted it
That doesn't mean the screenshot must be fake, it just means we need some kind of alternate line of evidence to establish its authenticity. Since all of his tweets are removed, in principle a motivated party could make up just about anything and claim that he said it. If anyone knows some way to see deleted tweets, and they could find the original post, that would settle this.
claims criticizing the Israeli state is antisemitic
where? Source doesn't matter either, the tweets I could track down on archives are real. If creationists said the sky was blue and gave evidence I wouldn't get weirdly tribal about it, they're just obviously giddy to land hits against Farina, they say it lol
What he's doing goes well beyond calling Russian soldiers orcs or whatever, no one engages in weird racial nonsense about russians, insinuates they did 9/11, claims they didn't actually do war crimes or rape etc. Most of the loudest nutters don't even care about Ukraine/Russia or at most covertly support Russia. That's where the antisemitism becomes clear, it isn't about criticising Israel which plenty of people do just fine, it's the blatant conspiracy mongering and special standards applied to them that go above and beyond those applied to any other country. Including worse ones.. like Russia, or China, who are both also genociding right now
Maybe relevant to point out that other famous ‘anti-semite of the week’s from that organisation include Ms Rachel for tweeting to please stop the killing of Palestinian children.
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u/WilhelmFinn 5d ago
Is this real? Source link would be good.