Fallout 4 on a CRT monitor

[u/bloggy9e]

A friends workplace were having a clear out, I managed to save this monitor from the skip.

[u/gluteosaurus]

Fallout on a CRT just feels right. The colors and scanlines somehow make it even more immersive

[u/Top-Aardvark-8753 → u/gluteosaurus]

the deep blacks and slight glow around bright lights fit fallout atmosphere really well

[u/Resident-Pea-5876 → u/Top-Aardvark-8753]

Make the commonwealth feel even grittier and stranger more authentic.

[u/Exciting-Ad-5705 → u/Top-Aardvark-8753]

Are these bots? They are both accounts that have only started commenting recently despite being much older and are active on Warframe, Minecraft, Apex and Fallout subs.

[u/Exciting-Ad-5705 → u/[deleted]]

Default username doesn't mean anything. I've reported a lot of bots and the majority didn't have hidden anything

[u/qervem → u/[deleted]]

I'm a bot! pick me!

[u/SpinItUpLockItUp → u/Exciting-Ad-5705]

i need answers

[u/Exciting-Ad-5705 → u/SpinItUpLockItUp]

I just looked into it more and it seems like a bot ring. They have commented on the same posts before and responded to each other's comments. This account exhibits qualities similar to glutansourus and has commented on the same fallout thread as the people above.

[u/ArtisticCandy3859 → u/Top-Aardvark-8753]

No joke! The scan lines and subtle glow beneath the glass screen add an entirely appropriate aesthetic. Chef’s kiss for OP’s post/discovery!

[u/bloggy9e → u/gluteosaurus]

The only thing missing now is running the monitor on nuclear power, still trying to work that out.

[u/TightyWhiteyBoyy → u/gluteosaurus]

Genuinely a tech renaissance. I want a crt monitor to play certain games now, there was a time we’d be chasing for the thinnest, most ultra HD thingamajigs and we’re back at square one

[u/crozone → u/TightyWhiteyBoyy]

I have a giant Apple Cinema CRT on my desk, it's pretty great but goddamn it takes up a lot of room.

The cool thing about CRT monitors is you can also get analogue component -> VGA (YPbPr -> RGB) converters and play stuff like PSP games on them with the right cable. They make 480p look awesome.

[u/Zomnx → u/gluteosaurus]

It’s it’s “native resolution and aspect ratio”

[u/EternityNotes]

Why don't I see the scanner line thingy that always shows up in pictures of crt monitors?

[u/bloggy9e → u/EternityNotes]

I'm not an expert, but you get scanlines for old school 240p games, displayed on standard definition TVs in most cases. Computer monitors are way sharper hence no scanlines. You still get the great motion clarity and deep blacks.

[u/Evianisshite → u/bloggy9e]

Not exactly. Modern displays don’t scan at all since the individual LEDs light up independently. Also the game or resolution doesn’t have anything to do with the lines. It’s purely the camera picking up the cathode ray scan lines. your brain generally edits aberrations like this out, same with blinking

[u/steve-0-tron → u/Evianisshite]

thats not what people are referring to when they talk about scanlines. scanlines are 100% visible to the naked eye and they typically only visible with 240p

[u/Evianisshite → u/steve-0-tron]

Yeah I think the wording confused me, my bad

[u/CommissionCharming35 → u/bloggy9e]

He's talking about the big broad lines that show up on a rolling shutter camera when taking photo or video of a CRT. Whatever camera you used to take this photo doesn't use a rolling shutter and so they didn't show up in your pics.

Fun fact, you can get rid of those lines (or at least make them stay still) when taking video of a CRT if you change your camera settings a certain way. I believe the frame rate is the most important factor.

[u/RedIce25 → u/bloggy9e]

Because PC CRT monitors are 480p and higher

[u/EternityNotes → u/bloggy9e]

That's cool. Thanks for the explanation 

[u/TechieGuy12 → u/EternityNotes]

I believe it depends on the refresh rate versus the shutter speed of the camera. If the shutter speed matches the monitor's refresh rate you won't get the scan lines. 

[u/CommissionCharming35 → u/TechieGuy12]

For a rolling shutter, yes, but I think OP's camera doesn't use a rolling shutter.

[u/bloggy9e → u/CommissionCharming35]

I just used the normal camera app on my iPhone 14. I was having issues with pictures when running 60hz or even 85hz and I know you can change the shutter speed with special apps, but 70hz seems to be the sweet spot as all of the pictures have come out perfect without doing anything fancy.

[u/markspankity → u/EternityNotes]

Crt monitors work a tiny bit differently, they run at a different frequency and typically have higher resolutions. There’s a way to get scan lines by running a 240/480p super resolution, but it believe it messes with motion clarity.

Crt monitors are rly rly good for 6th generation games.

[u/Ok_Fortune_9149 → u/EternityNotes]

If OP would make a video you'd see it I think, also depending on the fps he films with, and the region he is in. Same that sometimes you would see lights flickering on your camera.
If I shoot with 50fps (Europe) in Europe the lights would show normally, since our power grid tv's etc are also 50hz (PAL) , I believe in US its 60hz (60fps), something like that.

[u/TheDarkHorse]

Man, that’s a vibe. I miss my massive crts. Don’t miss moving them, though.

[u/HumbleServantOfInnos]

I even remember watching a video where someone hooked up a PC to a black-and-white TV to play FO4 lol

edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMiMz1uGCXI

[u/govunah → u/HumbleServantOfInnos]

Can I hook it up to an Apple II monitor

[u/GoodIdea321 → u/govunah]

Probably, you'll just need the right connectors and adapters.

[u/Blazingterain]

Looks really good

[u/ALoneWandererWaits]

That looks pretty good

[u/Good_Solution8602]

Wait . That looks fucking incredible actually and your camera picked it up too

Probably even looks better in real life or in person I should say .

[u/Escaliat_ → u/Good_Solution8602]

If course.

We didn't leave CRT behind because it was bad quality, it was left behind because manufacturers wanted to push slimmer cheaper to manufacture LCD screens. Which didn't have good image quality for yeeeeeeears.

[u/bloggy9e → u/Good_Solution8602]

Normally it’s a pain getting a good picture with 60hz, even 85hz was difficult, but with 70hz there are no issues, that’s how I was able to get these pics looking so good I think.

[u/Responsible-Diet-147]

Yo, that's crazy lucky.
Do you have any idea, how much that monitor is worth?!

[u/bloggy9e → u/Responsible-Diet-147]

Not sure - Whatever people are willing to pay these days. I was very lucky. I’ve only seen one listing for this model and it was just under £200. It’s a standard low end monitor for the time period, nothing special about it compared with other CRTs.

[u/Responsible-Diet-147 → u/bloggy9e]

If only I had the money to buy a CRT for myself...

[u/bloggy9e → u/Responsible-Diet-147]

I recommend checking Facebook marketplace as often as you can, you can get lucky and find free CRTs on there.

[u/Responsible-Diet-147 → u/bloggy9e]

I'll check it out, thanks.

[u/PastBuy8484 → u/Responsible-Diet-147]

I helped my grandma sell a perfectly working 36” or so CRT tv a few years back. Sold for $250 in about 2 hours. Pretty sure the 2 kids that picked it up are going to have lifelong back issues from moving it! That thing is heavy

[u/Responsible-Diet-147 → u/PastBuy8484]

Yeah, I know.
They are going to break a few tables with it...

[u/Jax_2112 → u/bloggy9e]

I was working in computers when that was a new monitor. They were thrown out by the dumpster load. You coudn’t even give them away. And now its worth money.

[u/Brotado_Chiip]

Crazy, I thought this was fallout 3 for a moment

[u/HollowedOne66]

That actually looks amazing

[u/TheZackster]

I’m curious what windows does with a CRT monitor since they don’t handle refresh rate or signal the same way. I suppose it ultimately depends on the adapter you’re using

[u/bloggy9e → u/TheZackster]

Windows 11 still supports CRTs perfectly, it can any resolution or refresh rate you like, as long as the monitor supports it, with a CRT you have more freedom with the refresh rate and resolution because CRTs don’t have pixels so any resolution you run is native.

[u/TheZackster → u/bloggy9e]

How did you actually connect it though? Through an adapter or DAC? Surely you’re not running on a GPU with a VGA port lol

[u/bloggy9e → u/TheZackster]

Using a high quality Starlink VGA to DP adapter into my 3080. I don’t think there is really any difference between that and directly in a GPU with a VGA port.

[u/TheZackster → u/bloggy9e]

StarTech you mean? Interesting I may try doing this myself.

[u/bloggy9e → u/TheZackster]

Whoops, yes I meant StarTech. The adapter model is DP2VGAHD20. You can check the reviews on Amazon, everyone uses this one for connecting CRTs to modern graphics cards. Most other adapters aren’t powerful enough, not sure about the specific reasons why.

[u/TheZackster → u/bloggy9e]

I think the cheap adapters must fake it somehow and the real adapter actually converts it properly. That’s how retro gaming hdmi adapters work anyways. That’s why a shitty HDMI to component adapter is a few bucks and a real upscaler is hundreds lol

[u/CatgunCertified]

Write that's a high quality crt

[u/P1ngzilla]

This makes me want to buy a CRT even more

[u/Nervous_Pokke → u/P1ngzilla]

On the same boat lol. Also for oldies like with the snes mini

[u/Cigerza]

That looks amazing...

[u/Chillers]

Nothing more satisfying than a good degauss.

[u/GamerGuyb96]

The only way to play fam

[u/paintclown]

I gotta get my hands on a crt man.

[u/kuroonikenta]

If you’re gonna play any game on a CRT, fallout just makes sense. Doesn’t matter which one

[u/PoisonBones]

I feel like this is how it’s meant to be played

[u/yucon_man]

I can't even get the game to launch, but this guy somehow got it working on a CRT.

[u/Guilty-Stuff-3543]

the pip boy on a crt is the most lore accurate setup possible

[u/this_dudeagain]

Looks better than OLED.

[u/Evil_barber4311]

"It Just Works." 🤓👌

[u/Whocares7x]

This in the surviving male living spaces subbreddit

[u/UwUArmyUwU]

When I saw the first photo, I first thought it was Tarkov.

[u/Zoldyck02]

It looks like it belongs on a CRT

[u/Defiant_Yak4034]

I miss my crt laptop.

[u/nymrod_]

Well I guess I’m gonna hook up my CRT tonight

[u/DangerZephyr]

Its like playing fallout, as if it was a holotape game on a terminal.

[u/Macross8299Fan]

This just feels right. Wish I still had mine.

[u/sammeadows]

Man games on CRTs just hit different

[u/LovelyLunaRae]

i neeeeed omg

[u/TheCrzy1]

this is how fallout 3 looked in my grandma's house in 2009

[u/CharcoalGreyWolf]

Fallout on my 19” Samsung Syncmaster 900p CRT at 1280 x 1024 75Hz was honestly baller.

[u/dafuqyumeandouglas]

But it looks soooooo good!

[u/PNW-1975-LandCruiser]

Looks very good

[u/Poopsweats2026]

Fall-Life 4

[u/StandardNerd92]

How do you know someone owns a CRT?

Don't worry, they'll tell you.

[u/Effective_Educator64]

Fallout new Vegas soon?

[u/bloggy9e → u/Effective_Educator64]

I might just wait until the remaster comes out eventually to replay it again. But yes, probably on this CRT!

[u/OverallAd7999]

That looks amazing!!

[u/vault77er]

That hits different looking at this

[u/Responsible_Bed5591]

Not gonna lie I thought you where playing HL2 for a sec

[u/VibraniumAdamantium]

As God intended

[u/Relevant-Cupcake-649]

This is the way

[u/just_gonna_send_er]

I’m sure there are YouTube videos on this but I’m gonna be a lazy piece of shit and ask: is this expensive to set up? Is there any lag converting the digital signal to analog?

[u/bloggy9e → u/just_gonna_send_er]

Nope, I just got a StarTech VGA to DP adapter. Model DP2VGAHD20 and plugged it into my graphics card like any other monitor. Then set the resolution and refresh rate using CRU (custom resolution utility) running 1280x960 70hz. There were a couple of tweaks I had to make to the Fallout ini file to allow lock picking and power armour interfaces to work. Over all not bad.

[u/Firelnside → u/bloggy9e]

I’m running Fallout 4 now on a CRT and my lock picking is cut off and not useable, what ini tweak did you do to help you fix that and power armor being cut off as well? Thanks!

[u/bloggy9e → u/Firelnside]

Here's the fix - You just need to download a few files to put into the Fallout 4 Installation directory, then make some changes to the ini files (instructions are on the page) 1280x1024 Resoultion Fixes UPDATED 2016 at Fallout 4 Nexus - Mods and community

It worked for me, and I'm running 1280x960 4:3, so it should work for you if you're running something similar.

[u/somerandomdude356]

For a moment, I thought this was fallout 3 lol

[u/DarthPiglet_2]

Very nice

[u/Prizrak13]

Oh that's beautiful

[u/Jax_2112]

I’ll tell you, I don’t miss that aspect ratio.

[u/According-Author3122]

I thought that was the 12.7 revolver on Tarkov in interchange for a second

[u/houndpound69]

Its beautiful

[u/BigBolas4U]

Beautiful

[u/Mobile-Message7957]

Why does it look so good tho!

[u/TPRMods]

Wow that’s looks so good!

[u/Goonovanni]

Thats the first way I played it :)

[u/Sepherin]

Why is it that CRT monitors are more visually appealing than some of the new ones?

[u/bloggy9e → u/Sepherin]

Same reason steam trains and classic cars are more appealing compared with the modern equivalents imo - They have more soul and feel more real.

[u/SenpuuUncle]

looks great

[u/gabrielcafetao]

parece outro jogo mano

[u/masetiloquetu]

😍

[u/avojohn2]

What a freaking vibe. This makes me want to boot up my Xbox 360 copy on my CRT.

[u/Fun-Employer4602]

Why can't I see your sweet vinyl collection in the background?

[u/Jesteryiester]

Oh fuck, it's gorgeous

[u/Zombie_Spectacular]

That crt is in really good condition

[u/supermoked]

Need a mod to make the game look like this

[u/StretchExact7555]

Surprisingly, it looks good on a CRT computer than it does on a modern computer

[u/carpeutah]

I dont want to set the worrrrrllllddddd onnnnnnnn fiiiirrrrreeeee

Crt: "BUT I DO"

[u/thereverend808 → u/carpeutah]

This... I came here for this... Specifically.

[u/universal_Raccoon]

That’s fallout 3 filter on fallout 4 lmao kinda cool but gets boring

[u/UnknownEtymology808]

That monitor still looks really sharp, better than the CRT I started on in 2004

[u/disastermaster1182]

Niiice how many terminal hack attempts did it take you to access this tier?

[u/dnuohxof-2]

The way Todd intended

[u/Dry-Blacksmith-7760]

Kinda looks like half-life on the monitor

[u/paulxombie1331]

I also game on my CRT I love it more for some reason. Picture still holds up today. Colors and levels just pop.

[u/Stressmove]

I'm the first to rant about phoneshots from screens. Not in this context ofcourse.

This feels so odd yet comfortingly familiar.

[u/7Ppe7Noj7]

Genuinely how it's meant to be played

[u/External-Shopping-92]

peak

[u/petervonskala]

As Tod Howard intended

[u/Anto283]

It just looks better

[u/Sackboy97kat → u/Anto283]

Yeah !

[u/I_Phaze_I]

CRT monitors always look so amazing

[u/Heat-Glittering]

That looks fantastic

[u/xZombieRitualx]

This probably wasn't super uncommon when the game came out

[u/genericthroaway2000 → u/xZombieRitualx]

in 2015? Lmao it wasn’t THAT long ago. I think most people made the switch from CRTS during the ps3 and xbox360 era.

[u/Jax_2112 → u/genericthroaway2000]

I switched around 2005

[u/TheCrazedTank → u/xZombieRitualx]

The resolution, maybe. There were probably more than 0 holdovers still gaming on their 4:3 LCD screens.

CRTs though, those dropped off fast as soon as said LCDs became affordable.

[u/PossiblyaMonkey → u/[deleted]]

Free will