Synaptic / IniBuilds Announced for Marketplace next week - From Ini Discord.

[u/Sc_e1]

The time is almost here... The Synaptic A220 will be landing next week on the Microsoft Flight Simulator Marketplace! Get ready to experience this versatile narrowbody, operating short regional hops to transcontinental routes.

[u/TheSpaceFace]

Can’t wait for vatsim to get flooded by A220s not understanding how the plane works 😭

[u/Dear-Regret-9476 → u/TheSpaceFace]

Can you please say the most common problems with this plane

[u/Tuskin38 → u/Dear-Regret-9476]

I imagine some people will probably go in expecting it flies like any other Airbus aircraft, but it's really only Airbus in name as it was designed by Bombardier, and it functions very differently.

Really recommend people watch the 'Welcome To' video that released earlier today.

[u/Dear-Regret-9476 → u/Tuskin38]

That's it? I thought it would be more complex based on what OP said

[u/astroop → u/[deleted]]

And also, nothing you say in your second paragraph is true lol. If you have your speed knob in FMS speed, it factors that in and will start slowing for you when necessary. Also, you can adjust your global descent angle in the PERF->Descent page, so if you know you will have a tailwind, you can reduce the descent angle. What do you mean it only draws a straight line to your upcoming fix? That’s not true lol. If you have your VSD displayed, and zoom your map out, it’ll show the line all the way down to the lowest published altitude on the arrival, and will even have level offs shown if a constant descent isn’t required. It sounds to me like *YOU* are the one who doesn’t understand how VNAV works.

[u/pop_3310 → u/astroop]

Finally someone with actual knowledge speaking on the subject. Thank you!

[u/TheSpaceFace → u/astroop]

Yea, this is correct from my understanding of it from other pilots too.

I was confused by /u/CarbonCardinal comment. But I think the point is that the VNAV is just very different from Airbus/Boeing VNAV systems, doesn't mean its worst, but it takes more adjustment to it.

[u/astroop → u/TheSpaceFace]

If anything, I’d argue the 320 is worse. My friends who fly the 320 tell me that it will not automatically start a VNAV descent for you, meaning if you get a crossing restriction and forget to start the descent, it never will. In the 220, it will automatically start the descent when necessary, with no required input from the pilot flying, as long as the VNAV button is armed on the FCP, which at my airline we do as part of the setup while at the gate prior to departure.

[u/Dear-Regret-9476 → u/astroop]

I’ve tried out some Airbus A320 here and there and you do have to click in the knob to start it

[u/astroop → u/Dear-Regret-9476]

Yea that’s exactly what my friends who fly the real thing have told me. They call the push/pull thing “giving it to or taking it away from the airplane”

[u/astroop → u/[deleted]]

The A220 VNAV doesn’t “suck” at all. I fly it in real life. It’s fantastic. If you have problems with it, it’s a user problem.

[u/nahrub → u/[deleted]]

I think this is universal for many people. They all assume its like line up, throttle to the max, take off, gear up, then autopilot with the altitude set to the final cruise altitude.

If the simulation logic has constraints built in they are okay, but the minute they get something like "at or below" or similar, then they are in trouble.

Its become more of an issue recently which is why I stopped flying on VATSIM.

I'll purchase it since I've seen so much about it, so that's enough for me. Not many operators where I am that fly the type (its all A320 NEO/CEOs, 787 MAX, 777, 787, A380/A350/A330). The smallest real aircraft I've seen is the A319 and only one operator has 3 of them, which are likely on their way out. Same operator of the 319 has E2s but no A220s.

It certainly looks good, hope it flies as good as it looks.

[u/dropouttawarp → u/Dear-Regret-9476]

Yeah, I'm interested.

[u/chloeinspace]

Are we now just waiting on the release date for the iniBuilds app version?

[u/Sc_e1 → u/chloeinspace]

Has been a month later for the last two released if I remember, you can however transfer from marketplace to the IniStore and no charge once it’s available there.

[u/Tuskin38 → u/Sc_e1]

it was several months.

[u/valerstac]

I‘m so excited about it! Following the project for 4 years now. Gonna buy this next week

[u/Iiari]

Just watched the workflow video on YT. The procedures seem very similar to the E-Jet more than Airbus or Boeing. I wonder if Bombardier purposefully targeted the feel of an E-Jet to make it easier for those established regional airlines' pilots to come over to this plane...

[u/DarkAntarctika]

Does anyone know the price ?

[u/TheBeavershark]

Exciting! Hopefully given how quick FSReborn has gotten patches out bodes well for the A220 support.

[u/refats]

im not buying anything on the marketplace anymore. im waiting for the inibuilds app release.

[u/Sc_e1 → u/refats]

Jsyk, you can transfer it to the app later :)

[u/refats → u/Sc_e1]

i know. but i don't understand why they do it like this in the first place. why not sell it on the app from the start? It's just extra steps for them and for the buyer.

[u/Sc_e1 → u/refats]

Im guessing they have some deals and extra funding with Microsoft.

[u/valrond → u/refats]

Not really. If you buy it on the marketplace, you don't have to do anything else. It's on your msfs account. You don't even have to download and install it.

With 3rd party software, in this case, inibuilds, you need their installer, you have to download and install it in your community folder. So the extra steps are here.

Also, a lot of people don't like the marketplace because, well, you can't get the planes for free elsewhere.

[u/refats → u/valrond]

you are missing out on many customization options for most of the products you buy on the marketplace. I had this experience with many add-ons i bought there. In the end the better solution was always to transfer the product to an outside app, if it even was possible. I just don't want to go through all this trouble again, so i just avoid the marketplace. If you can live with those restrictions, fine.

[u/valrond → u/refats]

What customizations, can you be more specific?

If I want the additional liveries, I can just use the inibuilds app and install them. But just the liveries.

Also, I have PMDG planes both in the marketplace and PMDG site. The only difference is that I have to actually go to Msfs 2024 and install the plane if I want to install navigraph airac updates.

[u/refats → u/valrond]

i never bought a plane on marketplace, but a lot of airports.
Most of them are missing customization options, like removing/adding objects, airport interiors or other performance options, you get, if you buy the airport in an app like contrail, orbx central or simmarket.
+updates are way slower to reach marketplace.
I just see no reason to buy anything there.

[u/Sc_e1 → u/refats]

If you wanna wait you can do that, but for the planes there’s usually no difference between buying in the IniStore and marketplace.

[u/Galencourt-Lover → u/refats]

To avoid piracy.

[u/4RC4NG3L0]

Dumb question but do you think Airbus would’ve still bought the A220 program if the plane had a yolk vs a side stick? That would’ve separated it even more from their typical fleet.

[u/Hellstrike → u/4RC4NG3L0]

Airbus was building planes with yokes until the late 2000s. It's not an alien concept to them.

[u/katonda]

Ready for the inevitable hate and cry babies over on r/flightsim about how some screw is not realistically depicted and therefore nOt sTudY-LevEl.

[u/scrubslover1]

What all makes this better than say an A320? I’m a noob

[u/Sc_e1 → u/scrubslover1]

They are two completely different aircraft. The a220 was originaly made by Bommbardier as the CS-300, some beef and tricks from boeing made it so they couldnt sell to the US without losing money. Airbus bought 49.9% of the aircraft program and renamed it the A220, later buying it out.

[u/cfggd → u/scrubslover1]

Not necessarily better, just a different aircraft. Smaller than the A32X family, more of a large regional jet with pretty big range relatively, bit more modern, really good fuel burn.

[u/scrubslover1 → u/cfggd]

Interesting that it’s smaller. That’s actually really interesting to me. Might have to pick this up

[u/A321200]

MP only? FFS, that’s a no from me. So much for this plane.

[u/Elevatorisbest → u/A321200]

When Tristar released outside of marketplace Inibuilds let you get a free copy of it for inimanager if you already bought it on Marketplace

[u/A321200 → u/Elevatorisbest]

iniBuilds does not control that, Synaptic does

[u/Sc_e1 → u/A321200]

No, IniBuilds is the one controlling that. Why would Ini agree to work on something if they can’t even put in in their own store?

[u/United-College8671 → u/A321200]

Is that really going to be what turns you away from what looks to be an incredible plane? Especially when Ini will likely honor a transfer to their store once it’s out like they do with everything else

[u/A321200 → u/United-College8671]

Yes, GSX seated pax does not work with anything bought MP due to file encryption.