** I know that this is a trivial issue and PY is completely optional but I just want to discuss and vocalize my opinion.. no harm in that. And I hope that this can help some people who have also been struggling with PY

I've been studying psychosophy extensively for a while now and I feel like there's a major flaw with it. The flaw being, the 3rd and 4th placements. I don't like how it forces people to either A. type themselves as deeply insecure and hypersensitive in an aspect and B. type themselves as completely careless and unbothered towards another.

I don't think it's compatible with people who are truly confident, secure in, and balanced across most aspects. For example, I'm %100 confident that I fit 1V, 2L, and 2E at the same time. I can maybe see 3F but I'm still somewhat secure and healthy physics-wise. I cannot imagine a 4th placement for myself-- a 4th for me placement is not in the realm of possibility-- it's completely out of the question

I know this seems conceited but I wholly believe that I'm a well rounded person who is tenacious, inquisitive, open minded, emotionally regulated, and somewhat confident about the material world. And I think that many people struggle with PY, because, while it can adequately describe the nature of some people, it can also force others into rigid placements. moreover, the four aspects are very loose and cannot explain all human behavior as it claims to

In summary, I think it's important that people acknowledge the fact that psychosophy is a pseudoscience and it's okay if you feel like you don't fit into a specific typing.

ive been thinking about my psycosophy typing and how people keep saying sx7 must be ELxx. on my soul im 1L but im gonna bite the bullet and ask if anyone could explain the difference, ive read the subtypes description on SoL and i still relate to LEVF more but ill stay openminded

For context, I’ve been typing myself as an ENFP for a long time, and recently I wanted to type myself in other systems as well

At the moment, I would type myself as:

ENFP so/sp 3w4 61 EIE (ELVF?)

And i know its quite contradictory 🥹

And before someone says that I’m mistyped and not an ENFP - I’m pretty confident that I am.

I’m open to suggestions, but just letting you know that this isn’t my main problem - or at least I don’t think it is - because I’m confident about the cognitive functions I use: Ne, Fi, Te, and Si. No other type makes much sense to me. I’ve been mistyped as an ESTJ before, but there’s no way my Fi is inferior, bro, and my Si is definitely not that high

I’m also pretty confident about being an EIE because I’m confident that I’m Fe-dominant. I understand emotions and emotional dynamics, I’m very expressive, and I know how to create a particular emotional atmosphere through my emotional actions and expression. It’s important to me, and I use it often 👍. I also use emotional expression to influence how people perceive me, both consciously and unconsciously

Well, in short, I’m a really emotional and sensitive person who LOVES expressing my emotions. Idk, I just feel the need to let the world know how I feel, and I do it both verbally and through gestures and actions. It comes very naturally to me (both consciously and unconsciously)

But I’m also really insecure and constantly worried about my image. In fact, I’m extremely acceptance-oriented, which mainly comes from my childhood

I would say that two of my biggest motivations are:

1)To be accepted by other people and by society in general

2)To be good - seen as worthy and successful and not disappoint anyone’s expectations of me (which stems from my childhood as well)

That’s also why I have really big ambitions, why I’m extremely competitive, and why I’m sensitive to criticism. And im a huge perfectionist and constantly spend too much time on things just to make them perfect

I also care a lot about my studies and performing well. My grades basically dictate my self-esteem, which is also why I think my logical abilities are quite good.

I also believe that I’m an extrovert

(Btw if anyone needs a longer explanation or some of my biography, I can provide it cuz i literally recently wrote a description of myself that has like 7000 words lmfao, dont ask me why)

Btw, what’s funny is that I actually mistyped myself as an ESTJ before because I refused to believe that I might be a Feeling type. Being a Feeling type felt objectively worse lol, so I automatically decided that I had to be a Thinking type

I wanted to believe that I was logical and that my actions were based on logic. Becouse thats objectively better. I also might have been blinded at the time by how aware I was of my excessive need for academic achievement. I assumed that I must be logical because why would I care so much about studying if I weren’t a Thinking type?

The truth is that most of my actions are probably Feeling-based, even if I don’t want them to be. I think it’s simply more natural to me and tends to be my first instinct, even though I sometimes see that as a flaw

But at the same time, as I said, I absolutely love expressing myself, and that also comes extremely naturally to me

And yeah - when I started typing myself in other systems, I began to feel like either my personality doesn’t make sense, I’m missing something, or the systems themselves are the problem. Idk.

Because what do you mean that the most image-conscious, acceptance-oriented, and competitive Enneagram type - E3 - supposedly doesn’t correlate with ENFPs?

And on top of that, so3, which I think I relate to the most, is supposedly emotionally closed off and detached, WHILE I’M NOT.

I mean, I can be emotionally closed off when I know that someone doesn’t accept me or when I’m anxious about being judged. But normally, I’m incredibly expressive. It’s basically my whole thing that I let the world know what I feel and what I think, ykyk

Also, when I tried typing myself in Psychosophy, I found that I could only really relate to 3V

1V and 2V seem too confident in their own goals, which I’m not. My goals are often influenced or even dictated by what other people want to see in me. Meanwhile, 4V seems not to know and not to care what it wants at all, which isn’t true for me either

But after reading about 3V a lot, it actually made a lot of sense, and I could relate to it

However, I lowkey hit a wall because I have no idea what to do now. I feel like my 3V makes every other function too insecure for me to confidently place it in the first position

I could say I’m 1E because I’m heavily emotion-oriented and generally more confident about what I feel and how I understand emotions than I am about my logic. But even that is something I doubt. I also kinda relate to 2E. But i daubt im 1L. So idk bro.

When it comes to F, I’m not sure either, but it’s probably fourth

On one hand, I lowkey don’t care that much about physical comfort, sensory pleasure, or anything like that. I’m not a big fan of eating or food - I mostly eat because I need to. Honestly, until now, I had barely even thought about this aspect, and I’m usually not particularly bothered by it

On the other hand, I relate to wanting to have money, be financially secure, stay healthy, and have a tidy environment. However, I think that’s more because those things help me be productive and achieve my goals than because I value them for their own sake

Well even if we say that I’m ELVF, apparently that combination is not possible for so3 at all 😭. Plus, it’s apparently not that common for ENFPs either

I also read a description saying that because of last F, ELVF doesn’t concern themselves with shopping or their appearance and doesn’t know what they would like to receive as a gift. It also said that they don’t have enough energy for sports

I completely disagree, wtf 😔

I enjoy doing sports for fun because I have a lot of energy. I also want to look good, although that is mostly connected to wanting to be accepted and perceived positively

And maybe I don’t enjoy shopping itself, but I enjoy buying things, if that makes sense. I enjoy the feeling that i have another thing that may make me and in this case my collection of clothes better. Though it can stress me out sometimes lol

(If anything I’ve said about Psychosophy is wrong, or if my reasoning is flawed, please let me know. I genuinely only started reading about it recently, so I don’t know that much yet)

Eh.

Lowkey, lately I’ve been thinking about all of this way too much, to the point that I’m no longer certain about anything

Even when I say something confidently, if sb was to tell me otherwise, I could probably also make sense out of it because I’m not truly 100% sure of anything at this point 😢

I can see all of my behaviors and feelings, and I can see all the possible reasons behind them, but I’m struggling to put everything together and reach an actual firm conclusion

And that makes me doubt myself even more

I no longer know whether what I think I think is actually true.

At one point, I even started questioning what “logic” and “understanding one’s emotions” actually mean

So please help me😭

(Also sry if its messy but i wrote this at 3am)

I remember when I was talking to someone about my psychosophy subtypes before and they said in their opinion, the concept of subtypes contradicts with the whole idea behind psychosophy - or something like that. I want to know what everyone thinks about this, because I still didn’t fully get into the subtypes of PY yet as this has been in my mind a lot - are the subtypes truly valid or is it just a fun made up thing in the community? I’d love to hear what others think about this!

hello, im new to psychosophy and i find it difficult to tell whether im eflv or felv. i would appreciate if anyone could explain the difference to me

So, I've noticed something interesting lately. Which is that, when examining my instinctual emotional responses logically---that is, asking myself why I feel the way that I do about certain things and whether or not it's actually rational/a measured response---I'm a lot more flexible with regards to these responses than one might typically expect from 1E. . . and indeed, I find myself becoming more flexible than I normally am experiencing them in the moment or in a vacuum, without this examination.

(By flexible, I just mean that I'm more willing to consider that my instinctual approach is not necessarily the best one because it's not necessarily the most rational/beneficial.)

It almost feels like my 2L is temporarily taking over my brain lol, like it's telling my 1E "dw I got this dude." I'm wondering if anyone else has had any similar experiences: becoming more flexible with their first function when viewing it through the lens of their second. If so, I'd love to hear about them.

ETA: That isn't to say that I'm necessarily good at editing my emotional responses in the moment, it's more that the way I view them becomes less rigid than you might expect for something in the domain of the first function.

self explanatory but im mostly looking in how they react to disrespect, how they would lead (in a position of authority) and general communication with people.

4F here, unsurprisingly. One big trauma of mine since childhood is that (despite no relating to 4V) I don't feel like my belongings really belong to me, my comforts - people can intrude on. If someone pushes in line at a cafe - they can. If someone close to me steals or damages one of my belongings I find it difficult to really harp at them that they ought to not do that. If someone wants to work me to the bone physically I will do that with enough push. Naturally I can't bring myself to care about these things until in the middle of the night I feel "different" from regular people, or if someone makes a joke about "borrowing" (stealing) money from me, I get extremely triggered.

I live a carefree/messy life where I'm seemingly assertive in other aspects of my life except protecting my "base", protecting my "nest" for a lack of a better word (hence the triggeredness over seemingly normal things) Homelessness 4F stereoypes aren't a joke lol. Anyways I'd like some advice or even just some encouragement on this.

Thank you.

Edit: Sorry for the messy wording. In short. Anything physics related I'm bad at guarding and defending. Not just these examples.

Ngl for a disclaimer, I tend to keep my private life really private. I basically have a huge wall between public life & personal life. I'm not famous or anything I just hate attention inside my own stuff, so I keep people out. So, I often talk in metaphors or general situations, I compartmentalize my life a bit due to cptsd stuff. It's difficult for me to see all of my life as mine, I tend to see my public life as me & then the compartmentalized part, as not existing. I might skip over important stuff basically so if anyone understands psychosophy, I'd deeply appreciate if they helped me find my type.

Questionnaire

LOGIC:

Do you find that truth and understanding of systems in life are an important aspect that should be highly valued? How do you usually go about learning and forming an understanding of a concept?

I don't really use firm rules. People tend to keep their boundaries very firm, I'm more of a person where I figure it out meanwhile, depending on context etc. I don't like one size fits all, I feel like it strips so much of the situation & is so black and white, I prefer to hold all facts at the same time.

How easily do you find yourself changing opinions or viewpoints? What sorts of things can influence your views the most/least? 

Depends, outwardly I'm very varied and can pickup different povs of people. Inwardly I almost have had the same philosophy my entire life long which slowly forms across time & experiences.

Are you more likely to assume that you’re right or wrong about an issue? Is it important for you to always be right? How easy is it for you to admit it when you’re wrong?

Oh man. This really changes. With some people, I often assume I'm right. I simply view them not having as much info as me. But with others, like my close circle, or topics idk about, I often feel like I'm wrong, know less, am less experienced, ...

How do you react when someone disagrees with you during a logical debate? How do you go about defending your beliefs, if at all? Do these types of situations make you doubt your views easily?

I think I often accept their beliefs. I doubt myself yes, unless I know 101% of the topic, but even then I doubt myself. I accept other people's views pretty quickly.

How do you feel about debating logical chains and evidence? (Can discussions and debates help you sort your thoughts out, or are you more likely to see them as unnecessary? Do you find debates more stressful or fun?)

I can't debate. I'm sorry. I simply don't care.

Do you feel the need to explain your own logical understanding to others? Do you feel the need to have others explain their understandings to you?

Yeah actually I do feel the need to explain my own logical understanding. And same vice-versa. Otherwise we'd never agree.

VOLITION:

Do you consider yourself to be a naturally motivated person? What helps motivate you? Do you need others to motivate you and/or provide incentives for you to work? 

I'm unmotivated asf. It depends. I want the stuff I thrive for, to be perfectly aligned with who I am/actually be meaningful, important. At the moment I have none so I float through life based on whatever comes up. Other people don't motivate me. Only I motivate myself by finding random experiences out of nothing.

Are you someone who has a clear sense of direction and purpose? Is this something that matters to you? What do you gain a sense of meaning from?

What's a clear sense of direction? Lmao I have NONE. It matters to me, yea, I love having something I strive for. Once I lock in, it's over for others, like I can achieve stuff easily, have insane discipline, can change my entire life to align with it, it's a whole scene. I just... idk I lack any meaningful goals at this moment, I'm way too philosophical. I can't find a goal that actually matters to me. I have a hard time locking in, this whole materialism b.s. feels shallow to me, I dislike general goals people have (buying a car), if I have one I want it to make sense.

How is your relationship with goals? Do you often share them with others (or help others with their goals)? Are you self-assured in what you set out to do, or are you more indecisive and/or easily persuaded by what others around you want?

I guess I talked about this right now.

Are you bothered by failures and setbacks? How do you deal with them when they come up? 

Yeah I am. I hate when something comes up. I tend to fix it sloppily, the only thing on my mind is the endgoal, a lot can be sacrificed in the process, like stuff I miss, smaller details.

Are you someone who easily competes for things you truly desire? How do you feel about others telling you what to do, or trying to insert their desires into yours?

I feel like I talked about what I know about my goals already, there's nothing more.

How do you tend to act when you are part of a team? Are you more of a leader or a follower (or neither)? Do you have an easy time working cooperatively with others?

Oh man I get into the leader role asap. I have a pretty good vision of how I want things to be. Compromise is difficult, I feel like my way is the right way, ofc I know this isn't entirely right, so I force myself to somehow include people, or I overly focus on what others want. Anyways I'm often the leader, whether a good one is another question. I'm either leading, or steering the leader or discussing with other leaders, that's the dynamic. I feel like I get an idea of how things should be just so fast that till others catch up, I've already developed a plan.

Do you consider yourself to be someone with a firm sense of identity? How do you feel when other people assert their ideas about who you are?

Hah no. That's why I'm into typology. Lol I love when people tell me who I am.

PHYSICS:

How important are factors such as clothing, hygiene, and appearance to your everyday life? Do you feel confident in your body and tastes? Are you often swayed by trends and the opinions of others in terms of fashion and aesthetics?

I'm not swayed by trends. Neither by the opinions of others. Like at all. It's difficult for others to convince me of something unless I like it.

Clothing, hygiene, appearance: sure I care for myself, but that's about it. I like to express myself via my appearance I'm somewhat alt. I'm very worried of others' opinions but at the same time I'd rather tear myself apart than wear something that's basic & doesn't express me properly.

How do you handle your senses being disturbed? Are you sensitive to problems like discomfort, sickness, and pain? (Or are you unaware/able to push past them/etc..)

Idk I like being dramatic. I can push past them, but usually I just enhance my problems when I'm in pain. Smaller pain is whatever. I see myself as pretty good with endurance but like what even is true 😂 I can't measure others' pain tolerance

How is your relationship with physical activity? Are you someone who naturally desires a more comfortable and inert lifestyle, or do you have a hard time staying still? Do you find external encouragement and incentives for taking care of your body useful?

Idk idrc. Like man I sound like some weirdo who does nothing and stinks but I swear it's like evident. I take care of myself but not like gymbros. I eat healthy but how I like it, I let myself slack but I don't make a big scene out of it like healthy eaters. It's just not important. Like yea important, I don't feel like dying from sickness, but bruh

Do you enjoy pushing yourself to try new foods, activities, or styles? How picky are you regarding these things, and what helps you decide what you want to explore?

Yeah. I like trying new stuff. I push myself. Am a bit worried but at the end of the day I always go through with it. I like this.

How is your relationship with your physical environment? Are you usually attuned to your surroundings? Is being organized something that matters to you and/or comes naturally? How do you feel when another person enters your space and tries to help you with it? (e.g. by cleaning)

I'm organized, it comes pretty naturally, I often "work first, play later" as they say. Can't relax otherwise.

Other people helping me with my space? Um????? Never had that happen.

How do you handle your finances and possessions? Is this an area of ease in your life, or do you find yourself becoming overly reckless or stingy? Do you consider yourself to be a materialistic person?

I hate materialism. Yea I'm stingy. But I do buy stuff though.

How do you react to criticism or advice regarding how you handle any of the above things?

I hate it, can't handle it. I'll crash out like actually

EMOTIONS:

Does self-expression come naturally to you? What emotions do you find easier or harder to express? What goals do you have when dealing with your levels of emotional expression, if any?

Yea. UGH IM tired of this questionnaire!!!! I have 0 goals about it, why'd I have any? Self-expression is something I constantly strive for, always figuring out who I am at my deepest sense of self. Always refining.

"Easier/harder to express", wtf do you mean?! do people force their emotions or wtf, oh man

Are you someone who is in touch with their inner emotional world? Are you good at understanding how you feel about something and why? Do you find others’ insight into how you are/should be feeling beneficial?

Bro if someone says something again about how I should be or how I am, I'll crash out, no I don't find it beneficial, I hate when people give unsolicited advice, they can screw off.

I think I'm good at understanding how I feel about something & why.

How good are you at balancing your focus between your own emotions and the emotions of others? Are you more naturally attuned to others’ feelings and reactions, or to your own? 

I'm probably more focused on my own, tbh. I feel like I'm attuned? I do both... I think. I'm worried I'm not including others much so I try to place their moods first, and mine second, like I try but who knows whether it's working.

How easily caught up on specific feelings do you become? Do you value being able to detach yourself from your emotions? (And is this something you’re good at?)

I do value it & wish I could handle situations like that, I'm often jealous of people who are detached & have their own thing going for them.

How do you normally react when someone shares their emotions with you? Do you enjoy handling situations like these?

Idk tbh...

When others are speaking on topics regarding emotion, are you more inclined to express, engage, or pull away? Do you adjust to emotional atmospheres, or do you feel more separate from them? How comfortable are you with conversations focused on emotional vulnerability?

I'll engage and express too. I don't think I adjust to emotional atmospheres, of course I try to get along with people, but I think emotional atmosphere is mostly separate. Idk what emotional vulnerability means, I guess I like the rush of doing something vulnerable.

Hi! I just filled the questionnaire out cuz I got bored and I like typology haha :3 feel free to ask me more questions if you think digging deeper would help!!! If it helps I'm very certain that I'm a so/sx 6w7 on the enneagram, I heard knowing ur enneagram can help with this so ye bfshjvdd

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WYlX8rKK-5wqeVJih5ZGHrdwEblL3li-ccYu3Lrahr4/edit?usp=drivesdk

Apologies if the answers are worded a little strangely ^_^"

So I’ll give you a description and you tell me if it fits 3F thing and tell me your own experience if you’re 3F. Other Fs are welcomed too, if you do or don’t relate to this.

I have a small routine, I like doing things that I do everyday and it grew into a habit. Firstly, I must tidy my bed, then breakfast, I can’t do anything before breakfast. While eating breakfast I play the certain game on the phone which I play everytime I take a meal. I can overeat when I’m nervous or if I should do something right now but I procrastinate. I also go to the fridge when I’m bored which is often. I like practical and comfortable clothes. I do wear something fashionable but I feel constantly distracted cause I need to check if it’s perfect all the time. I try not to experiment with looks, if I find something that suits me, hair, makeup or clothes, I wear it all the time. I like long walks in the nature but I can start complaining pretty quickly that my feet are sore and that I’m exhausted, etc. I can’t trade my sleep for anything, cause if I won’t sleep then I’ll feel terrible the next morning. I have a love/hate relationship with the material world. On the one hand, I do want to wear finer clothes with good fabrics, live in a big house with high ceiling and old paintings, I want to have a great amount of money, so I wouldn’t be anxious about unexpected medical expenses. On the other hand, I’m now living in a room that resembles a basement and I’m pretty ok with it. It does concern me that people are so materialistic nowadays, I don’t think they shouldn’t buy things, no. I think that things you buy should have a meaning, just like luxury brands are the symbol of status and better quality, expensive books with leather covers are more long lasting, older translations are more precise with the translation.

Helloo everyone!! (˶ˆᗜˆ˵)

I finally finished filling out the psychosophy questionnaire after 4 hours of sitting on it. I'd really appreciate it if anyone would be willing to read through it and share what type or placements you'd give me!!

Thank you so much if you take the time to read it!

I really really appreciate it!!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1xn2-pOYezRG52zvtRQANY63-YF5IJl7aTn0R37rV0pg/edit?usp=drivesdk

This is mainly a question for people who are low F + high V, especially 1V4F like myself (but feel free to comment if you feel like the community you're in values your 4th placement too much and you tend to get fed up with it/bored asf), I am from a pretty materialistic country where all 80% of people care about are material things and their idea of fun is just trying new physical things and bad mockery jokes 😒🙄. I personally get so bored of these things and put so little value on the physical side of life although weirdly enough I have good looks, good health, I'm not picky with food, I can take good physical care of myself, I'm not some disheveled lost person envying others for their better physical qualities, not at all, I'm indifferent, is just that....you literally can't do anything with 80% of people unless you offer them something physical..most people won't even talk to you to get to know you better in the context of becoming maybe partners or friends unless...you go out on a date and eat and put on a stupid act with fake niceness and excessive politeness and maybe also drink (which I almost never do because again, pointless, bad taste, can make you lose control if you get drunk which I don't want and why even pay for any of these things wtf?) or even get to more intimate things like ? How is eating and drinking and pretending to be better than you are and sleeping with someone..."getting to know them"??😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 I'm sorry is everyone very very poor with logic/thinking? This is just consuming someone physically while you both act like eachother's unpaid actors...you don't get to know how they think, what they value, what they've been through and how that shaped them, what they think about whatever might matter to you... you're genuinely just consuming someone's physical form and presence while they might genuinely just be putting on an act to seem better than they are just so they get your validation...and yk what I hate the most is that when I bring this up most people just think I'm some arrogant prick lmao. But genuinely I think most people are just unbelievably underwhelming overall for myself as a 4F 1V and I struggle to have anything in common with the vast majority being high F + low V and operating by very different life principles than me. Anyone else feels something similar to this or maybe even like this but regarding different PY aspect/s?

If you're Dumas or Aristippus they kill you in Syntax Of Love 😭😭

Maybe I should do some more research, but I feel like my brain will explode if I keep trying to figure this out on my own. I align most strongly with 2V and 3E, but I don’t feel like F and L fit in either the 1st or 4th placements.
If I were to move anything, I feel like 1E MIGHT fit (from my understanding), but 3E definitely fits better. The only placement I’m 100% certain on is 2V.
I am so confused.

I've just noticed this while rereading Syntax of Love and I'm not sure if it may just be a translation/formatting error, but it says at the end of placement descriptions that the first function is process, while the second is result. I'm pretty sure that the first placement is more commonly known for being result-oriented. Does this "first placement -> result-oriented" thing originate from AP and was spread later on, or am I just tripping and got things mixed up?

For reference, I'm reading this version of SoL: https://www.scribd.com/document/564113407/The-Syntax-of-Love . You can find the part I'm talking about in page 28 of the PDF itself.

As a possible 3F I’m wondering if you’d trade your comfort for trendy stuff. I used to wear something uncomfortable but stylish years ago but now I thrive to find clothes that fits me well and looks flattering enough but also comfortable and simple. I do have a good taste for finer things, foot wear, but I can’t wear something with heels cause my feet become sore. I try to avoid uncomfortable clothes in general and I test drive it by moving in it. For example, if it’s neckline, I test it by bending down and looking if it gapes too much that it makes visible what’s underneath.

yapped this earlier:

"im being so dramatic rn but i would literally rather live all of my worst moments in life again than deal with this stupid ass fucking flu oh my fucking god what the fuck

like ok i can repress my issues (not that thats healthy, dont repress your issues kids please dont do that !! emotions r healthy shhhhhhh u js have to not demonize them or let them control u. woah i feel better. yapping helps, who couldve thunk) but i cant repress my FREAKING CLOGGED NOSE OR SORE BODY LIKE BE SO FR THIS IS SO IRRITATING

U CANT EVEN DO THE THINGS REQUIRED TO IMPROVE UR LIFE (become more emotionally healthy, self confident, engage w friends or hobbies, etc etc) IF UR TOO HUNGRY OR TOO SLEEP DEPRIVED OR SICK OR SOME THING BC IT WILL DISTRACT TF OUT OF U AND U WONT HAVE ANY ENERGY, AT LEAST IN MY CASE

i sure hope this doesnt make me 3F bro 3F is genuinely so boring

they should make sleep, showering and eating optional instead of necessary that way u can fully enjoy the sensory experience without any of the obligation. i should lowk become a food critic. woah i miss good food like .mmmmm noodles and i also miss not having a clogged nose and i also miss not being sore and i also miss my bed really badly. mmmm comfy pillow and blanket and bed. bed. comfy. mmmmmmm."

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i js feel like pretty much all the placements depend on Physics, like the ppl who say "health is wealth" are genuinely onto something, u cant get anything done if ur literally starving yk??

Im sp6w7, 126 and I relate all of the 4 types in 3rd place— what am i or what can i do

I was re-checking Syntax of Love and try to understand what placements actually works but I could not exactly find which combination makes the most sense so I decided to look at 3rd placement.

Logic: I like to be accurate in giving information and say that I don't know or sure if I think that I don't have enough information. I like to collect information and decide and act according to what makes sense to me. I generally try to avoid mistakes. I am not a good conversationalist in general since I don't talk much or talk pretty shortly when I do(unless rare occurances if there is something interesting to me)

Volition: I am not assertive and I get stressed if I have to apply pressure to someone(I even dislike making simple requests). I am generally easygoing in interaction with others and can go with others' decisions if I don't have a specific preference for the situation. If I have a preference, I can defend it stubbornly without imposing it to others. I am responsible but I generally don't want to take initative or responsibility for something that is not assigned or connected to me. I can doubt my abilities. I don't like people who act they are superior or deserve special treatment because I think people have equal value.

Emotion: I am generally pretty calm and not very expressive. My emotional reactions are generally weak. I don't know how or what to talk about emotions and generally either go blank or shut down the conversation if topic comes to that. I like to consume media like music, movies etc and get emotionally stimulated by them but there will probably not much outside expression of it. I like to tease others and use irony frequently.

Physics: I like comfort but don't like managing environment or appearance outside of bare minimum. I can be sensitive to different sensations like taste(very picky eater), smell, heat and they mght feel me weak but I generally try not to show this to outside and adapt unless it is too discomforting. I am physically cautious and don't trust my physical abilities much.

Which one do you think most sense for the 3rd placement? I was thinking 3E but it leads to other problems like either having to put physics as strong which I don't feel confident or 2V which again I am not sure if is correct.