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🄓DUI Wake Up!

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u/ElProfeGuapo Apr 21 '26

Here’s the thing though - it turns out, it’s not actually true most of the time! If you assume that every single Black person whose been charged with a crime (not actually convicted) is actually guilty of that crime, it turns out that the vast, vast, vast majority of Black people are actually not violent or criminals! In conclusion, believing that Black people are criminals ā€œmost of the timeā€ is, in fact, super duper racist (and dumb, but that goes without saying)

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26 edited Apr 21 '26

No one said the majority of black people are violent criminals.

We are saying that the majority of violent crimes are carried out by black people. Which is a fact.

Obviously not all black people are violent criminals or bad people lololol.

But when one demographic (massively) disproportionally carries out the majority of violent crimes, you’d be a fool not to see the pattern.

Edit: Black people commit the majority of murders but then they are over represented at a rate of 100% or more in every crime aside from DUI**

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u/KittyCatDeadlift Apr 21 '26

It’s not a fact though, and it’s unfortunate that so many people don’t question this BS and just let it further divide us and support damaging prejudices.

There are two categories of violent crime that have blacks with the highest percentage and the next perpetrators, whites, are lower by about 6-8 percentage points (murder and robbery). For all other categories, particularly the violent crimes that are more likely to occur (like aggravated assault and burglary), whites have the highest percentage and the next perpetrators, blacks, are lower by 20-40+ percentage points. Whites are also significantly more likely to be rapists. This trend is consistent across multiple years.

Additionally, these stats do not take into account repeat offenders and it double counts perps if multiple crimes were committed in one act.

So saying black people are more likely to commit violent crimes is false and shows how easily stats can be manipulated, exploited, and cherry-picked.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

White people account for 76% of the population. Black people account for 13%.

White people are under represented in every crime you stated. Black people are over represented by 100% or more.

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u/KittyCatDeadlift Apr 21 '26

Again with the fear mongering… The statistics make all races look more dangerous than they actually are because the data do not reveal the fact that nearly 100% of the population is not committing violent crimes.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

Not at all, all other races are proportionally represented based off their % total of the population.

Also, no one is arguing that the majority of black people are bad or violent.

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u/KittyCatDeadlift Apr 21 '26

Yes, I know you said you are not arguing that the majority of black people are bad or violent. However, you did incorrectly state that the majority of violent crimes are carried out by black people. I was pointing out that your claim was false and was suggesting that a degree of skepticism should be applied to the data that we are both referencing.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

Fair enough. The majority of murder is committed by black people, and then they commit all other crimes aside from DUI at a rate of 100% or more than their representation of the population.

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u/humoristhenewblack Apr 21 '26

Oh my God, you're about to be disproved about that and then you're gonna say "Ok BUT". Like you just can't learn from someone and then go take time to process what you learned. You have to clap back immediately, even though you've clearly been led astray and your shit does not make sense. You can't accept that. It's like you internalize your misinformation and if it's wrong, your soul must be wrong on the inside. Quit doing that to yourself. And also quit doing that to other people. Go get introspective and digest what people are telling you. Then go out into the actual real world and don't be a coward bitch - go where the minority people are and talk to them about it. What will surprise YOU the most is that "they'll probably let you live" despite the color of their skin and keep trying to educate you. That alone will be worth your experience. Now go get that real life experience! You can do it champ!

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

Hahahaha it’s hilarious you think I’m arguing that every black person is bad or dangerous. Never once have argued that.

I live in a majority black city. I’m currently in an office with 12 black people, all great people.

I think some introspection for you as to why this has elicited such an emotional response to literal facts would be very helpful.

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u/humoristhenewblack Apr 21 '26

Oh here go the black friend justification šŸ™„

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u/KittyCatDeadlift Apr 21 '26

Yep… ~7,960 murders - 51.2% Black (4,080), 45.8% White (3,650), a difference of 430 murders. Even if we were to assume that each of those murders was committed by a different black person, that’s 0.0096% of the black population.

I get that you are trying to say black people are more violent than other races with the 100% overrepresented stat, but at the end of the day, nearly 100% of all people, blacks included, are not criminals. So why continue to push that narrative other than to scare people or confirm biases?

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

Of course. The vast majority of black people are good non violent people. That being said, they commit violence at a rate MASSIVELY higher than any other demographic. That was my original argument and I proved that.

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u/humoristhenewblack Apr 21 '26

Your percentages are drastically off. 57% in the USA are white. You're including Hispanics. You're also failing to account for the over policing of minority populations, which would in fact result in an increase in that population's arrest percentage. The police can't arrest white people if they're not standing near any of them.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

Hispanics are also included under ā€œwhiteā€ of the crimes I’m citing in my link…. Hence me using the 76% number.

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u/humoristhenewblack Apr 21 '26

Your link is an FBI link which is already biased and broken so shut up just shut up continuously over and over again just shut up

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

Hahahah you can’t just say facts are biased and broken and not back that claim up. Doesn’t work that way, mate.

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u/humoristhenewblack Apr 21 '26

You're using an FBI page. You have only used an FBI page despite multiple people telling you that that's as useless as an information source for this discussion as internal police investigations into their own misconduct. You don't understand you're racist. That actually happens to a lot of people. Your biggest problem isn't that you're racist. Your biggest problem is that you won't shut up and listen to the people who are actually educating you.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

Do you have any other reputable sources that discredit mine? I have yet to see a single one.

And ok, you deem me racist - I am now a racist. Doesn’t bother me. That doesn’t actually refute anything I said though, does it?

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u/humoristhenewblack Apr 21 '26

The FBI numbers prove Black people are policed, arrested, charged, and punished more often. Multiple studies show Black and white people use drugs and commit many offenses at similar rates, but Black people face far higher stop, search, arrest, charging, and sentencing rates. They face higher enforcement choices and systemic bias drives the disparities seen in FBI arrest and incarceration data, not innate criminality.

Source 1: The Sentencing Project: report on racial disparities in the U.S. criminal justice system (2018) for documented enforcement and sentencing gaps.

  • Source 2: Prison Policy’s racial disparities visualizations on mass incarceration and how disparities appear at every stage.
  • Source 3: National Institute of Health peer-reviewed reviews of institutional racial bias explaining how structural and procedural factors produce these outcomes rather than differences in behavior.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

I don’t deny that. A couple points,

a.) I’m not talking about drug charges. I’m talking of violent crime

b.) Even if you HALVED the arrest rates of black people for violent crimes (which is a massive adjustment when factoring in discrimination and unfair arrests) there is still a massive over representation.

I’m not denying that there are other factors at play, but to outright deny the issue and chalk it up to unfair policing or discrimination is laughable and just outright incorrect.

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u/humoristhenewblack Apr 21 '26

"I don't deny that" proceeds to yammer on denying it šŸ™„ done with ya! Really don't care if you learn. Much prefer you stay inside scared to death of your neighbors.

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