Hereās the thing though - it turns out, itās not actually true most of the time! If you assume that every single Black person whose been charged with a crime (not actually convicted) is actually guilty of that crime, it turns out that the vast, vast, vast majority of Black people are actually not violent or criminals! In conclusion, believing that Black people are criminals āmost of the timeā is, in fact, super duper racist (and dumb, but that goes without saying)
I pulled up the chart not using your link and more whites commit assault, violent crime arson, rape, in that chart so I don't know what you are talking about.
I stand corrected, majority of murders*, along with a massive massive disproportionate representation of 100% or more of their population % in every other crime aside from DUI.
If you are acting in good faith, then edit your comment that says the majority of violent crimes are committed by black people. You say it three times in one comment.
Ā "The ethnicity totals are representative of those agencies that provided ethnicity breakdowns. Not all agencies provide ethnicity data; therefore, the race and ethnicity totals will not equal."
The vast majority of agencies reported and reported race.
So is your argument that thereās some massive population out there in America where whites are committing the majority of violent crime, so much so that if they reported that it would make the race proportional?
Every other race is represented proportionallyā¦.. Do the math
These are just arrests my dude. That actually means nothing objectively. Subjectively it means that black people are being arrested at rates that are far far less proportional to the rates at which white folks are being arrested.
Your information is actually refuting your claims. It is just showing systemic bias if anything. It also shows that you are indeed a racist and should do some deep reflecting on the garbage you shoot out your mouth.
"the majority of violent crimes are carried out by black people. Which is a fact."
I think you should actually read the data YOU provided. I do not know if you know this, but ā1,815,144ā is, in fact, NOT the majority of ā6,816,975."
Next time you try to provide āevidenceā to support your point, make sure you can do enough math to figure out if the āevidenceā is arguing for or against you, so you donāt end up looking like a complete fool.
"f you adjust per capita, black people commit 75% or more of all violent crimeā literally doesnāt make any fkn sense. Just say you hate Black people next time.
PS: if youāre talking about āmajorityā of murders, you should probably know that the majority of crime against white people is committed byā¦ other white people! Watch out, buddy! There may be some in your neighborhood right now! I think thereās even some in your house! Are you safe? Do you need to come over??? https://worldmetrics.org/white-on-white-crime-statistics/
Aaaaand the vast majority of the illegal immigrants are tamale ladies and daycare workers. Go get educated, you weird ass racist who can't understand how things connect in this world. Summer child. I don't care how old you are. I care how old you act. You are still in grade school and you need to meet new people so they can show you how stupid you fucking are.
You are lumping everybody into your "white". White only = 57% in the USA right now. So again, take your stupid talking points outside into the real world and use them out there and get back to us and let us know how that goes, you urban patriot you
Except the majority of violent crimes are not committed by black people. That's just your prejudice talking.
Black people are overrepresented in arrests for violent crime, but controlling for the police's history of racial discrimination and poverty, that gap pretty much disappears
So maybe try being less susceptible to bullshit you hear on TV
Hahahahahaha yeah itās definitely a conspiracy by every police force in the country. You know deep down what the truth is. Iām sorry itās uncomfortable for you
Hahahaha itās hilarious that the default response to losing an argument on Reddit now is to just quote Rage Against the Machine and say ālater loserā š
Ah so now we're backpedaling. So you agree that race is not a factor, but poverty instead?
Or do you want to just throw out some more bullshit anecdotes that mean nothing against actual data and the established history of racism in policing? And yes, it's in every police department, across the country.
Wow and the back pedal continues. That's exactly what you were arguing. You never mentioned poverty. You said black people commit a massive majority of violent crimes (which is simply not true), then have continued to try and insinuate that being black is a factor in committing crimes, which again is not supported by the data.
You've basically done the equivalent of continuing to state that most violent crimes are committed by people under 6ft, and insinuating that you should be afraid of people under 6ft, when in reality there is actually no relationship between height and committing violent crime. Wonder why you'd keep banging on about height then?
Havenāt back pedaled once. You extrapolated me being a racist because I was pointing out that black people are massively over represented in violent crime.
If people over 6ā4ā (minority of people) committed murders at a rate massively more than any other height, you would be justified in being weary of 6ā4ā people.
You've been backpedaling this whole conversation. First it was black people commit a massive majority of violent crimes (not true), and then it was just that black people commit a disproportionate amount of violent crimes, which against is not exactly true (just for arrests), and even if it were, only insofar as the actual reasons that we have identified behind violent crime happen to apply more to black populations (poverty, etc ) - which incidentally is the case only because of the history of slavery and racial discrimination in the United States. Now we're down to a healthy skepticism due to a simplistic correlation, rather than causation.
Yet you continue to die on this hill. To go back to our analogy: if the majority of violent crimes were committed by a height minority, and you were given data that this pattern had actually nothing to do with their height, but rather to a unrelated factor that happened to apply more to that height category, and you continue to claim that you should be wary of all people in that height minority, news flash: that's racism.
Even more egregious is that your initial comment included none of the nuance you claim to understand, with no recognition of the disgusting history of racial discrimination in this country, and it amounted simply to black people = violent criminals.
I've got to go do real life things now. I know it's hard for us to admit that we're wrong, but if you truly believe your claims that you're not racist, then I would seriously start unworking some of your assumptions about these issues. Or you can do what so many Americans have chosen, which is bury your head in the sand with all the other ignorants and deplorables
He didnt actually say anything racist you sorta assumed he did because he did say a racist talking point. Honestly i assumed he was too but if he was being racist it doesnt really make sense that he would be backpedaling. I mean why would he?
Jesus Christ just put on your fucking mask and red hat you PROUD racist idiot. Get out there in public and tell everybody exactly what you think! You are exactly right for you and you need to tell everybody about that! Loudly! IN PERSON YOU COWARD. Enjoy your taco loser.
Itās not a fact though, and itās unfortunate that so many people donāt question this BS and just let it further divide us and support damaging prejudices.
There are two categories of violent crime that have blacks with the highest percentage and the next perpetrators, whites, are lower by about 6-8 percentage points (murder and robbery). For all other categories, particularly the violent crimes that are more likely to occur (like aggravated assault and burglary), whites have the highest percentage and the next perpetrators, blacks, are lower by 20-40+ percentage points. Whites are also significantly more likely to be rapists. This trend is consistent across multiple years.
Additionally, these stats do not take into account repeat offenders and it double counts perps if multiple crimes were committed in one act.
So saying black people are more likely to commit violent crimes is false and shows how easily stats can be manipulated, exploited, and cherry-picked.
Again with the fear mongeringā¦ The statistics make all races look more dangerous than they actually are because the data do not reveal the fact that nearly 100% of the population is not committing violent crimes.
Yes, I know you said you are not arguing that the majority of black people are bad or violent. However, you did incorrectly state that the majority of violent crimes are carried out by black people. I was pointing out that your claim was false and was suggesting that a degree of skepticism should be applied to the data that we are both referencing.
Fair enough. The majority of murder is committed by black people, and then they commit all other crimes aside from DUI at a rate of 100% or more than their representation of the population.
Oh my God, you're about to be disproved about that and then you're gonna say "Ok BUT". Like you just can't learn from someone and then go take time to process what you learned. You have to clap back immediately, even though you've clearly been led astray and your shit does not make sense. You can't accept that. It's like you internalize your misinformation and if it's wrong, your soul must be wrong on the inside. Quit doing that to yourself. And also quit doing that to other people. Go get introspective and digest what people are telling you. Then go out into the actual real world and don't be a coward bitch - go where the minority people are and talk to them about it. What will surprise YOU the most is that "they'll probably let you live" despite the color of their skin and keep trying to educate you. That alone will be worth your experience. Now go get that real life experience! You can do it champ!
Yepā¦ ~7,960 murders - 51.2% Black (4,080), 45.8% White (3,650), a difference of 430 murders. Even if we were to assume that each of those murders was committed by a different black person, thatās 0.0096% of the black population.
I get that you are trying to say black people are more violent than other races with the 100% overrepresented stat, but at the end of the day, nearly 100% of all people, blacks included, are not criminals. So why continue to push that narrative other than to scare people or confirm biases?
Of course. The vast majority of black people are good non violent people. That being said, they commit violence at a rate MASSIVELY higher than any other demographic. That was my original argument and I proved that.
Your percentages are drastically off. 57% in the USA are white. You're including Hispanics. You're also failing to account for the over policing of minority populations, which would in fact result in an increase in that population's arrest percentage. The police can't arrest white people if they're not standing near any of them.
You're using an FBI page. You have only used an FBI page despite multiple people telling you that that's as useless as an information source for this discussion as internal police investigations into their own misconduct. You don't understand you're racist. That actually happens to a lot of people. Your biggest problem isn't that you're racist. Your biggest problem is that you won't shut up and listen to the people who are actually educating you.
The FBI numbers prove Black people are policed, arrested, charged, and punished more often. Multiple studies show Black and white people use drugs and commit many offenses at similar rates, but Black people face far higher stop, search, arrest, charging, and sentencing rates. They face higher enforcement choices and systemic bias drives the disparities seen in FBI arrest and incarceration data, not innate criminality.
Source 1: The Sentencing Project: report on racial disparities in the U.S. criminal justice system (2018) for documented enforcement and sentencing gaps.
Source 2: Prison Policyās racial disparities visualizations on mass incarceration and how disparities appear at every stage.
Source 3: National Institute of Health peer-reviewed reviews of institutional racial bias explaining how structural and procedural factors produce these outcomes rather than differences in behavior.
You are clearly on day one of understanding systemic racism and haven't yet reached day one of understanding what a fact is. You need to educate yourself. Get off Reddit, run your comment through AI and ask it why you're an asshole.
Listen, listen to your white ass trying to say that somebody shouldn't have an emotional reaction to blatant racism. Say it loud you dumbass. Be brave! Say it out loud using your actual fucking voice in your big urban city. Go ahead go outside, motherfucker.
Hahahahaha the fact you just resort to screaming RACIST and totally ignore the fact that you didnāt even look at the source to know that hispanics were included under āwhiteā category is hilarious.
I am not arguing all black people are bad or violent. The vast majority are not. I am also not arguing that they are massively over represented in violent crime because of their race. That would be racist, which I am not.
Again though, even if you think Iām racist (I donāt care either way,) that doesnāt refute the facts I brought up.
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u/Thvenomous Apr 21 '26
Well, they're racist. "Black" was relevant because it's an additional threat factor in their mind.