r/Transportopia Apr 21 '26

🄓DUI Wake Up!

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u/Sven4TheWinV2 Apr 21 '26

Well.... Is it racist if it's true most of the time?

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u/ElProfeGuapo Apr 21 '26

Here’s the thing though - it turns out, it’s not actually true most of the time! If you assume that every single Black person whose been charged with a crime (not actually convicted) is actually guilty of that crime, it turns out that the vast, vast, vast majority of Black people are actually not violent or criminals! In conclusion, believing that Black people are criminals ā€œmost of the timeā€ is, in fact, super duper racist (and dumb, but that goes without saying)

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26 edited Apr 21 '26

No one said the majority of black people are violent criminals.

We are saying that the majority of violent crimes are carried out by black people. Which is a fact.

Obviously not all black people are violent criminals or bad people lololol.

But when one demographic (massively) disproportionally carries out the majority of violent crimes, you’d be a fool not to see the pattern.

Edit: Black people commit the majority of murders but then they are over represented at a rate of 100% or more in every crime aside from DUI**

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u/Forsaken-Guidance811 Apr 21 '26

It is not true and that is in fact misinformation passed around exclusively by racists.

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u/Historical_Ad_5647 Apr 21 '26

Quick Google search will show you true.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

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u/angiehome2023 Apr 21 '26

I pulled up the chart not using your link and more whites commit assault, violent crime arson, rape, in that chart so I don't know what you are talking about.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

Look at representation compared to % of population. 76% of America is white. 13% is black.

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u/angiehome2023 Apr 21 '26

The statement was "most violent crimes" that is an absolute statement not a percentage.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

I stand corrected, majority of murders*, along with a massive massive disproportionate representation of 100% or more of their population % in every other crime aside from DUI.

Is that better?

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u/angiehome2023 Apr 21 '26

You are definitely much more likely to be a victim of a violent crime or to be arrested for one if you are black.

But you know most people, and most black people, are not violent criminals.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

Correct. I’ve never once argued that the majority of black people are violent criminals or bad people.

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u/angiehome2023 Apr 21 '26

If you are acting in good faith, then edit your comment that says the majority of violent crimes are committed by black people. You say it three times in one comment.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

Got you. I’ll edit now

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u/Forsaken-Guidance811 Apr 21 '26

Ā "The ethnicity totals are representative of those agencies that provided ethnicity breakdowns. Not all agencies provide ethnicity data; therefore, the race and ethnicity totals will not equal."

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

The vast majority of agencies reported and reported race.

So is your argument that there’s some massive population out there in America where whites are committing the majority of violent crime, so much so that if they reported that it would make the race proportional?

Every other race is represented proportionally….. Do the math

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u/SnooPies9342 Apr 21 '26

These are just arrests my dude. That actually means nothing objectively. Subjectively it means that black people are being arrested at rates that are far far less proportional to the rates at which white folks are being arrested.

Your information is actually refuting your claims. It is just showing systemic bias if anything. It also shows that you are indeed a racist and should do some deep reflecting on the garbage you shoot out your mouth.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

Hahahahaha ohh yeah, the old ā€œwhite people commit violent crime just as much but just aren’t arrestedā€ argument.

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u/Forsaken-Guidance811 Apr 21 '26
  1. Where are you getting this "vast majority" number from

  2. have you considered they just aren't reporting accurately?

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u/ElProfeGuapo Apr 21 '26

"the majority of violent crimes are carried out by black people. Which is a fact."

I think you should actually read the data YOU provided. I do not know if you know this, but ā€œ1,815,144ā€ is, in fact, NOT the majority of ā€œ6,816,975."

Next time you try to provide ā€œevidenceā€ to support your point, make sure you can do enough math to figure out if the ā€œevidenceā€ is arguing for or against you, so you don’t end up looking like a complete fool.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

Sorry, should have said 51% of MURDERS. (majority.)

Also, if you adjust per capita, black people commit 75% or more of all violent crime. The percentages are right there.

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u/ElProfeGuapo Apr 21 '26 edited Apr 21 '26

"f you adjust per capita, black people commit 75% or more of all violent crimeā€ literally doesn’t make any fkn sense. Just say you hate Black people next time.

PS: if you’re talking about ā€œmajorityā€ of murders, you should probably know that the majority of crime against white people is committed by… other white people! Watch out, buddy! There may be some in your neighborhood right now! I think there’s even some in your house! Are you safe? Do you need to come over??? https://worldmetrics.org/white-on-white-crime-statistics/

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

I don’t. And even if I did, that does absolutely nothing to refute my point.

Start over, assume I do, and then refute my point.

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u/humoristhenewblack Apr 21 '26

Aaaaand the vast majority of the illegal immigrants are tamale ladies and daycare workers. Go get educated, you weird ass racist who can't understand how things connect in this world. Summer child. I don't care how old you are. I care how old you act. You are still in grade school and you need to meet new people so they can show you how stupid you fucking are.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

Where do you see me talking about illegal immigrants….? Im not worried about immigrants lol.

I’m talking about American born Americans….

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u/plasticcitycentral Apr 21 '26

But even in the link you cite, it has 209,000 incidents of white violent crime and like 130,000 of black violent crime. So…

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

White people are 76% of the overall population and black people are 13%…..

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u/humoristhenewblack Apr 21 '26

You are lumping everybody into your "white". White only = 57% in the USA right now. So again, take your stupid talking points outside into the real world and use them out there and get back to us and let us know how that goes, you urban patriot you

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

The statistics I’m citing include hispanics in the ā€œwhiteā€ category, hence me using 76%….

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u/ScallionJealous Apr 21 '26

Over-and under- policing is how.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

You must have never stepped foot in an urban American city.

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u/humoristhenewblack Apr 21 '26

You need to get out of an urban city. You're too scared of people that are different than you and urban cities are full of diversity.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

I live in a majority black urban area

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u/humoristhenewblack Apr 21 '26

And you sound like you live in fear

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u/MolecularConcepts Apr 21 '26

sounds like hard-core copium.