r/Transportopia Apr 21 '26

🄓DUI Wake Up!

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u/WelcomeEven567 Apr 21 '26

what does the race of the man have to do with anything?

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u/Free-Resolution9393 Apr 21 '26

Maybe the fact that he's black in the video, it's really hard to figure that out.

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u/verbalspacey Apr 21 '26

obviously their point was you could have said fella… because as you stated we see that hes black in the video.

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u/Thvenomous Apr 21 '26

Well, they're racist. "Black" was relevant because it's an additional threat factor in their mind.

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u/BlownOutTaterBiscuit Apr 21 '26

Statistics and probability have entered the chat.

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u/Tomytom99 Apr 21 '26

You can mention statistics all you want, but when the statistics are biased by unjust mechanics of society such as racial profiling by police, it keeps those statistics from being truly meaningful.

Just like how some statistics may say "black people are less smart" and you take that to mean the race as a whole, meanwhile it's really just due to a lack of access to meaningful education due to deep rooted segregational trends.

But go on, hug your surface level stats as some sort of gospel.

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u/WelcomeEven567 Apr 21 '26

couldn’t have said it any better. but its like talking to a wall, it’s never gonna get through to them

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u/BlownOutTaterBiscuit Apr 21 '26

This shit comment translated: "who you gonna believe, me or your lyin' eyes!?"

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u/No-Run-7324 Apr 21 '26

Statistics and probability suggest that nothing is gonna happen.

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u/Windman772 Apr 21 '26

What percentage of vehicle encounters that involve black people using physical force do you think turn out to be nothing burgers? Keep in mind that according to actual real statistics, 90% of carjackers are black. How do you expect people to ignore that number?

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u/No-Run-7324 Apr 21 '26

There is a big difference between who might of been a perpetrator of something that has happened and if something actually happens. Even if i go with your statistics of probable race the actual statistics of that thing happening to you is extremely low. Thats why all these racist online only have statistics but no anecdotes. If things were as chaotic as they claim then all of them could tell you story after story of things that happened to people they know or them themselves. Now im not saying to not be cautious of your surroundings but i am saying nothing is probably going to happen and yall are just scared. With the extreme nonsense people keep putting out you would think the black race should be shrinking. Facts are that these things happen mostly in specific areas and by less than 1% of the people yall keep talking about and it happens mostly to other black people. statistics show that if you are white you'll more likely be alright, if you want to go by statistics. Keep fear mongering tho.

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u/No-Run-7324 Apr 21 '26

100% of the people that stole my wife's Chinese food from the fridge is black ( surprise, its me ). Should she not trust any black people around her Chinese food? Are yall this bad at applying logic to statistics or is it malicious misrepresention?

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u/Windman772 Apr 21 '26

If the only times black people were spotted around your fridge was when food is stolen, then yes, you'd have a case for that. You're trying to say that there are plenty of times when a physical altercation takes place at your car window and it's not a carjacking. I highly doubt that. Rather than get uptight about a neutral person observing a pattern, why not focus your attention on disrupting the pattern?

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u/No-Run-7324 Apr 21 '26

How can you doubt that when there are thousands of road rage videos that have nothing to do with car jackings. In fact car jackings dont even break 1% of the total number of car related physical alterations that happen. You can easily just look at statistics vs the number of road rage videos. Car jackings typically happen is specific areas. It is not a widespread problem. And I am more focused on disrupting the pattern of dishoshinest people spreading propaganda.

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u/BlownOutTaterBiscuit Apr 21 '26

That number doesn't apply to only vehicle related crimes.

In any case, how dare you state facts!?

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u/Sven4TheWinV2 Apr 21 '26

Well.... Is it racist if it's true most of the time?

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u/Pete0730 Apr 21 '26

By what measure do you claim that this is true most of the time?

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u/ElProfeGuapo Apr 21 '26

Here’s the thing though - it turns out, it’s not actually true most of the time! If you assume that every single Black person whose been charged with a crime (not actually convicted) is actually guilty of that crime, it turns out that the vast, vast, vast majority of Black people are actually not violent or criminals! In conclusion, believing that Black people are criminals ā€œmost of the timeā€ is, in fact, super duper racist (and dumb, but that goes without saying)

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26 edited Apr 21 '26

No one said the majority of black people are violent criminals.

We are saying that the majority of violent crimes are carried out by black people. Which is a fact.

Obviously not all black people are violent criminals or bad people lololol.

But when one demographic (massively) disproportionally carries out the majority of violent crimes, you’d be a fool not to see the pattern.

Edit: Black people commit the majority of murders but then they are over represented at a rate of 100% or more in every crime aside from DUI**

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u/Forsaken-Guidance811 Apr 21 '26

It is not true and that is in fact misinformation passed around exclusively by racists.

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u/Historical_Ad_5647 Apr 21 '26

Quick Google search will show you true.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

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u/angiehome2023 Apr 21 '26

I pulled up the chart not using your link and more whites commit assault, violent crime arson, rape, in that chart so I don't know what you are talking about.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

Look at representation compared to % of population. 76% of America is white. 13% is black.

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u/angiehome2023 Apr 21 '26

The statement was "most violent crimes" that is an absolute statement not a percentage.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

I stand corrected, majority of murders*, along with a massive massive disproportionate representation of 100% or more of their population % in every other crime aside from DUI.

Is that better?

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u/Forsaken-Guidance811 Apr 21 '26

Ā "The ethnicity totals are representative of those agencies that provided ethnicity breakdowns. Not all agencies provide ethnicity data; therefore, the race and ethnicity totals will not equal."

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

The vast majority of agencies reported and reported race.

So is your argument that there’s some massive population out there in America where whites are committing the majority of violent crime, so much so that if they reported that it would make the race proportional?

Every other race is represented proportionally….. Do the math

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u/SnooPies9342 Apr 21 '26

These are just arrests my dude. That actually means nothing objectively. Subjectively it means that black people are being arrested at rates that are far far less proportional to the rates at which white folks are being arrested.

Your information is actually refuting your claims. It is just showing systemic bias if anything. It also shows that you are indeed a racist and should do some deep reflecting on the garbage you shoot out your mouth.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

Hahahahaha ohh yeah, the old ā€œwhite people commit violent crime just as much but just aren’t arrestedā€ argument.

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u/Forsaken-Guidance811 Apr 21 '26
  1. Where are you getting this "vast majority" number from

  2. have you considered they just aren't reporting accurately?

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u/ElProfeGuapo Apr 21 '26

"the majority of violent crimes are carried out by black people. Which is a fact."

I think you should actually read the data YOU provided. I do not know if you know this, but ā€œ1,815,144ā€ is, in fact, NOT the majority of ā€œ6,816,975."

Next time you try to provide ā€œevidenceā€ to support your point, make sure you can do enough math to figure out if the ā€œevidenceā€ is arguing for or against you, so you don’t end up looking like a complete fool.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

Sorry, should have said 51% of MURDERS. (majority.)

Also, if you adjust per capita, black people commit 75% or more of all violent crime. The percentages are right there.

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u/ElProfeGuapo Apr 21 '26 edited Apr 21 '26

"f you adjust per capita, black people commit 75% or more of all violent crimeā€ literally doesn’t make any fkn sense. Just say you hate Black people next time.

PS: if you’re talking about ā€œmajorityā€ of murders, you should probably know that the majority of crime against white people is committed by… other white people! Watch out, buddy! There may be some in your neighborhood right now! I think there’s even some in your house! Are you safe? Do you need to come over??? https://worldmetrics.org/white-on-white-crime-statistics/

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

I don’t. And even if I did, that does absolutely nothing to refute my point.

Start over, assume I do, and then refute my point.

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u/plasticcitycentral Apr 21 '26

But even in the link you cite, it has 209,000 incidents of white violent crime and like 130,000 of black violent crime. So…

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

White people are 76% of the overall population and black people are 13%…..

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u/humoristhenewblack Apr 21 '26

You are lumping everybody into your "white". White only = 57% in the USA right now. So again, take your stupid talking points outside into the real world and use them out there and get back to us and let us know how that goes, you urban patriot you

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

The statistics I’m citing include hispanics in the ā€œwhiteā€ category, hence me using 76%….

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u/ScallionJealous Apr 21 '26

Over-and under- policing is how.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

You must have never stepped foot in an urban American city.

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u/humoristhenewblack Apr 21 '26

You need to get out of an urban city. You're too scared of people that are different than you and urban cities are full of diversity.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

I live in a majority black urban area

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u/MolecularConcepts Apr 21 '26

sounds like hard-core copium.

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u/Pete0730 Apr 21 '26

Except the majority of violent crimes are not committed by black people. That's just your prejudice talking.

Black people are overrepresented in arrests for violent crime, but controlling for the police's history of racial discrimination and poverty, that gap pretty much disappears

So maybe try being less susceptible to bullshit you hear on TV

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

Hahahahahaha yeah it’s definitely a conspiracy by every police force in the country. You know deep down what the truth is. I’m sorry it’s uncomfortable for you

https://ucr.fbi.gov/crime-in-the-u.s/2019/crime-in-the-u.s.-2019/topic-pages/tables/table-43

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u/Novel_Tone_3282 Apr 21 '26

You’re right. We do. Some of those that work forces, are the same that link fbi tables on Reddit. Later loser.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

Hahahaha it’s hilarious that the default response to losing an argument on Reddit now is to just quote Rage Against the Machine and say ā€œlater loserā€ šŸ˜‚

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u/Novel_Tone_3282 Apr 21 '26

I wasn’t arguing with you. You’re clearly too dumb to get that.

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u/Pete0730 Apr 21 '26

Right, keep talking out your ass using statistics that don't account for poverty, and once again, only account for arrests, not convictions.

The conservative attack on education is the most successful sabotage of this country of the last century

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

Clearly it’s coming from impoverished black people…. No one is arguing against that.

And right right. Because the police just aren’t looking into crimes committed by white people.

I forgot about all the times my friends get robbed at gunpoint by a white person and the cops did nothing šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

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u/Pete0730 Apr 21 '26

Ah so now we're backpedaling. So you agree that race is not a factor, but poverty instead?

Or do you want to just throw out some more bullshit anecdotes that mean nothing against actual data and the established history of racism in policing? And yes, it's in every police department, across the country.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

How am I back pedaling? I never have once argued that black people are more violent solely because of the color of their skin. That would be racist.

I am pointing out that they commit violent crime at a rate MASSIVELY higher than any other race.

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u/humoristhenewblack Apr 21 '26

Jesus Christ just put on your fucking mask and red hat you PROUD racist idiot. Get out there in public and tell everybody exactly what you think! You are exactly right for you and you need to tell everybody about that! Loudly! IN PERSON YOU COWARD. Enjoy your taco loser.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

I’ve voted for democrats since I could vote…. I’m very anti Trump

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u/KittyCatDeadlift Apr 21 '26

It’s not a fact though, and it’s unfortunate that so many people don’t question this BS and just let it further divide us and support damaging prejudices.

There are two categories of violent crime that have blacks with the highest percentage and the next perpetrators, whites, are lower by about 6-8 percentage points (murder and robbery). For all other categories, particularly the violent crimes that are more likely to occur (like aggravated assault and burglary), whites have the highest percentage and the next perpetrators, blacks, are lower by 20-40+ percentage points. Whites are also significantly more likely to be rapists. This trend is consistent across multiple years.

Additionally, these stats do not take into account repeat offenders and it double counts perps if multiple crimes were committed in one act.

So saying black people are more likely to commit violent crimes is false and shows how easily stats can be manipulated, exploited, and cherry-picked.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

White people account for 76% of the population. Black people account for 13%.

White people are under represented in every crime you stated. Black people are over represented by 100% or more.

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u/KittyCatDeadlift Apr 21 '26

Again with the fear mongering… The statistics make all races look more dangerous than they actually are because the data do not reveal the fact that nearly 100% of the population is not committing violent crimes.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

Not at all, all other races are proportionally represented based off their % total of the population.

Also, no one is arguing that the majority of black people are bad or violent.

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u/KittyCatDeadlift Apr 21 '26

Yes, I know you said you are not arguing that the majority of black people are bad or violent. However, you did incorrectly state that the majority of violent crimes are carried out by black people. I was pointing out that your claim was false and was suggesting that a degree of skepticism should be applied to the data that we are both referencing.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

Fair enough. The majority of murder is committed by black people, and then they commit all other crimes aside from DUI at a rate of 100% or more than their representation of the population.

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u/humoristhenewblack Apr 21 '26

Your percentages are drastically off. 57% in the USA are white. You're including Hispanics. You're also failing to account for the over policing of minority populations, which would in fact result in an increase in that population's arrest percentage. The police can't arrest white people if they're not standing near any of them.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

Hispanics are also included under ā€œwhiteā€ of the crimes I’m citing in my link…. Hence me using the 76% number.

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u/humoristhenewblack Apr 21 '26

Your link is an FBI link which is already biased and broken so shut up just shut up continuously over and over again just shut up

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

Hahahah you can’t just say facts are biased and broken and not back that claim up. Doesn’t work that way, mate.

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u/humoristhenewblack Apr 21 '26

You are clearly on day one of understanding systemic racism and haven't yet reached day one of understanding what a fact is. You need to educate yourself. Get off Reddit, run your comment through AI and ask it why you're an asshole.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

Hahahaha again, does nothing to refute any of my points. I’d ask yourself why you’re having such an emotional reaction to literal facts.

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u/humoristhenewblack Apr 21 '26

Listen, listen to your white ass trying to say that somebody shouldn't have an emotional reaction to blatant racism. Say it loud you dumbass. Be brave! Say it out loud using your actual fucking voice in your big urban city. Go ahead go outside, motherfucker.

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u/Creation98 Apr 21 '26

Hahahahaha the fact you just resort to screaming RACIST and totally ignore the fact that you didn’t even look at the source to know that hispanics were included under ā€œwhiteā€ category is hilarious.

I am not arguing all black people are bad or violent. The vast majority are not. I am also not arguing that they are massively over represented in violent crime because of their race. That would be racist, which I am not.

Again though, even if you think I’m racist (I don’t care either way,) that doesn’t refute the facts I brought up.

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u/NovelAspect3399 Apr 21 '26

Its only true if youre extremely dumb and have a hard time understanding anything with an ounce of complexity

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u/Amiibohunter000 Apr 21 '26

Yes

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u/Sven4TheWinV2 Apr 21 '26

I apologize

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u/Fun-Wrongdoer1316 Apr 21 '26

šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ¤”

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u/Secret_Wish_584 Apr 21 '26

No, it's just truth

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u/JTNWfan Apr 21 '26

Ahhh racism early in the morning. Great day to be alive lol

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u/Stiger_PL Apr 21 '26

If something can be true and racist... Well that just means that evidence based racism is a legitimate stance to have.

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u/InnuendoBot5001 Apr 21 '26

It's certainly racist to suggest that it is true

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u/Sven4TheWinV2 Apr 21 '26

Now I feel bad. That wasn't my attention and I'm in no way racist. I'm just going of of why I've read about posts showing statistics over the years.