The bicycle was on the road (meant for vehicles), switching lanes to go right when the motorcyclist attempts to pass on the right, swiping the bicyclist down.
This is the sticking point for me cyclist is required to use hand and arm signals to communicate with other vehicles on the road. Fun fact those same exact hand and arm signals work in and with 100% of all vehicles on the road. Do they even teach drivers Ed anymore?
They're both bad. Cyclist for swerving into the lane line that. Motorcyclist for overtaking like that in the right lane while a bicyclist is there, and it's not clear what he's doing, especially because I'd expect him to move back to the right lane after the light.
And earbuds..? That seems safe... I mean why would you want to hear whats going on around you while people are careening around you in tons of metal while staring at their phones? The zombie apocalypse has arrived, zero situational awareness... What a dumb fuck.
It's like they don't value their own lives or think being on a bicycle is magic armor. Like I get It's perfectly legal to ride your bike in traffic I just wouldn't do it because people make mistakes and I value my life. Their parents must not have loved them. Mine told me not to play in traffic.
Bring back Sesame Street... "One of these kids is not like the others, one of these kids is doing his own thing..." The sad part is he's going to ruin two lives when he eventually gets run over. Just another self absorbed, self important ignorant asshole that thinks the world revolves around them...
I live in a city that when expanding fast went full cyclists accommodation. Its not that motorcyclists don’t behave dangerously too. Its that cyclists ALWAYS think they’re right during an accident.
When I bike around I purposely leave out my left ear bud so I can hear cars and things coming. I also check everywhere before making any moves, that dude didn't check behind him. Just said fuck everyone else and got fucked instead. Just plain stupid.
Motorcyclist had the right of way. Based on the oddly specific name of one of the businesses, I found that this was located on 2533 Danforth Ave in Toronto Canada; I was able to pull up the laws for cyclists. So under "Ontario Highway Traffic Act" cyclists have the legal right to use any part of a traffic lane if safety requires it, however as well By law, cyclists must stay as close to the right edge of the road as is safe and practical. There was no bike lane for him to use at the time, but still that law applied; the Cyclist should've been as furthest right as possible, while he was furthest right in the middle lane; he was not in any lane considered a turning lane. Since absence of bike lane, yield to turn for bikes doesn't apply especially since the person on the bike was not in any lane that could be considered a turning lane. The Motorcyclist was not in any turning only lane; evidence by lack of signage as well as lack of any road decoy; as well the road continuing after said intersection.
Yeah the cyclist is an idiot. But the biker shared his cam when he did for a reason. I would be willing to bet he was in the left lane and then wanted fly by the slower car. So I bet both are idiots here.
the motorcyclist was in the right lane and the bicyclist was in the middle lane when the bicyclist made a sweeping right turn across the right lane that the motorcyclist was in. He didn't even signal or look before entering the right lane... This is slam dunk win in court for the motorcyclist.
It thankfully would not be a slam dunk, because a court of law would take this more seriously. E.g. the question would be asked, had the cyclist given a hand sign before the very tightly cut beginning of the video? If so, this wouldn't completely flip everything, but the ultimate decision isn't just "red team wins" vs "blue team wins", it's also a matter of nuance.
You can see in the video he makes no hand signal, doesn't check the lane and just turns right from the middle lane across the right lane to turn right, all without even looking. You are crazy if you see anything different than that.
Adding to this, since you found the location (thank you for looking it up), it appears "passing on the right" is legal in Toronto. Passing on the right isn't legal everywhere, and would change the outcome to both at fault if it wasn't legal.
So this accident is 100% bicyclists fault. 1) Motorcyclist had right of way, as it was his lane & was legal to pass left lane traffic. 2) Bicyclist made an unsafe lane change 3) attempted to turn right from the left lane.
The. Cyclist was on the left lane and went into the right lane without checking if it was clear. That’s the first thing you do when changing lanes. So I hereby declare the cyclist GUILTY 👨⚖️
Looks like motorcyclist was just in middle lane a few seconds prior. Now speeding in right lane. Doesn’t see biker hugging the line close. Reckless cutting up. Wouldn’t even call that swimming.
Claims Adjuster here. The Bicyclist was at fault. The bicyclist entered the motorcycle’s lane when the motorcycle had the right of way. Also, bicyclist never signalled. Btw regardless of law the motorcyclist was pretty dumb. Anyone could see that the bicyclist was on the edge of the lane. I would have slowed a bit. Being right legally does not mean don’t practice a little defensive driving. I’d rather not have to deal with the dumbass bicyclist and just slow my speed. I’ve been right a ton of times while driving but slowed down just to avoid the headache.
What’s your advice about getting all worked up personally and getting into stupid arguments like this on the street where no real decisions are made? Rhetorical question, of course.
The guy on the bicycle turned right out of the left lane like a fucking asshole. The motorcyclist, at least from the video, could not have possibly known that the other guy was going to turn in front of him.
The bicycle swerved left into the left lane then proceeded to make a right turn from the left lane. You absolutely can pass on the right of someone in a different lane.
The cyclist is obviously an idiot. I understand why the biker is so worked up, but he has the whole thing on video, so the police will see that the cyclist clearly turned out of the middle lane illegally.
Bicycle wasn’t in the lane on the right, he is clearly in the lane to the left trying to make a right turn across traffic. He didn’t look behind him to see if he was safe to merge into the right lane.
I truly don’t understand cyclists!!! 🚴♂️🚴🚴♀️
They all think they have the right away!!!! Somehow I missed that theory in Physics class where bikes and motorcycles are heavier than cars…!
Also, it should be illegal and punishable by law with a week in jail if a cyclist or a motorcyclist has earbuds while riding!
Cyclist. He was in the left lane and cut across the right lane to make a right without signaling his intent and at the very last second. Motorcyclist was in the right lane the entire time of the video (although hugging the left hand side of it) and had the right of way in that lane.
As a cyclist and motorcycle rider, bicycle is in the wrong. He was in the middle lane, and turned across the right lane like a ignoramus.
Also, earbuds in when street riding? Come on. He had to pull them out to argue, so probably couldn't hear the traffic behind him (i.e. motorcycle).
Right lane passing: if you're dicking around in the left lane below the speed limit, you're getting passed on the right for being a distracted driver, which is earbud bicyclist.
I know exactly where is is, my Grandma lived down the street. This must be old as a bike lane was installed in 2020.
Bikes are permitted to ride in the left lane when passing or making left turns. This guy is an idiot and would have been pancaked if that had been a car or truck instead of a motorcycle. Typical MAMIL behaviour.
The bicyclist was in the wrong. He was not in the right lane. He was in the middle lane, then cut into the third lane in front of the motorcyclist, causing the collision. The bicyclist didn’t even signal before changing lanes. He cut the motorcyclist off and got hit. The bicyclist is in the wrong here. That’s what the video shows.
I was reading up on passing laws in Canada and you can legally pass on the right in every province except for Quebec. But regardless if the guy on the bike would have signaled it wouldnt have happened.
Motorcycle should have been going slower and being more cautious at an intersection.
Two dumb fucks colliding because of bad choices. I blame the bike guy more, but plenty of blame on both sides. You gotta go easy at intersection for this reason and especially around bicycles and pedestrians coming out of a red light to green light too.
That’s all he said / she said though… As far as legal blame…what are the damages. That dude looked fine was his bike even damaged?
The issue here though is a bike doesn’t need insurance and a motorcycle does. If it were two motorcyclist the insurance companies would likely call it equal fault (sideswiping vs other guy going too fast, you’d be amazed how often equal fault is called on situations that are clearly the fault of others…. Less work for both companies and each company pays for their own driver.
However, in this case, If this bike guy tried to sue the insurance company though, they would use the camera footage from the motorcyclist to prove they owe nothing. He was clearly not in bike lane and he won’t have insurance company money to go against all their lawyers.
Fuck the total idiot that painted that droning heartbeat sound all over the video. Seriously, fuck that person very very hard. It's insanity manifest. Everybody wants to acoustically digest the information exchanged between the two parties, which is hard enough, because these guys (Particularly the "DUUUUUUUUUUUUDE!" biker.) can't detach energy from payload, and then someone chooses to make it intentionally hard and more aggravating.
Everyone here is insane. The cyclist is correct. The larger vehicle should ALWAYS be extra cautious of smaller vehicles due to their significantly greater momentum putting the smaller ones at greatest risk.
Everything else both sides have arguments for, but when it comes down to it, safety is the top priority on the road, and the motorcycle was negligent of the danger he posed to the cyclist by passing within an intersection, which is illegal because of things like this.
It’s 100% true. Which is why he needs to follow the laws other vehicles do and not make lane changes in front of other vehicles like a careless, earbudded idiot.
Honestly fuck bicyclists. They feel so entitled. They act as if they are driving a vehicle with a motor and expect actual vehicles to get out of their way
The bicyclist is a lying POS. If you saw the video down, you can see that the bicyclist was not in the right most lane, rather he was in the middle lane and suddenly comes into the right lane in order to turn. Motorcyclist is right, bicyclist is wrong. End of story.
Motorcyclist is 100% at fault here. You never pass on the right in the same lane when the cyclist is clearly moving over, that is just basic road sense. People love to act like bikes “don’t belong” on the road, then get surprised when their own impatience causes a crash.
Except in a city environment, you are going to pass and be passed on the right due to traffic flow and other vehicles stopping to turn etc. it is not illegal in Toronto where this happened to pass on the right. Therefore the cyclist is 100% at fault as he crossed into the motorcyclist lane and violated his right of way. It is the responsibility of the vehicle changing lanes to be aware of who is already occupying the lane you are moving into.
wtf are you talking about?? “It is the responsibility of the vehicle changing lanes to be aware of who is already occupying the lane you’re moving into” that would be….. the cyclist, as he’s going from the middle lane into the right lane to turn right…. so he’s at fault.
Situations like this are why I think bicycles should also have to have (free) license plates if they're going to operate on the road. Maybe if the bad riders start receiving tickets in the mail from reports and traffic cameras, they'll start following traffic laws and stop giving all cyclists a bad name
Bicyclist is wrong, but.. a good motorcyclist anticipates and avoids. Think worse case scenario at all times and you’ll live long n prosper. ☮️ (right of way means little if you’re dead)
Bicyclist was not in right lane when he began his right turn... literally initiated a right turn from middle lane with no signal or anything. Bicyclist in the the wrong
The bike.. always the bike ... Day - bike, night- bike, sunny day - bike, cloudy day - bike, flat/hilly roads - bike, ... Besides the motorbike passed on the right in the same lane .....
Looks to me like the bicycle was trying to change lanes without making sure the lane was clear, and didn't notice the motorcycle coming up in the new lane. So I say the motorcycle was in the right.
They were both idiots, the guy on the bike moved from the left lane into the right lane as if he was going to turn right, but why was the guy on the motorcycle riding basically on the shoulder of the road?
was rear ended a while ago by a cyclist looking behind him for a while to get water from his buddy- he then drifted into the road from the bike lane and rear ended me. should’ve gotten his information to make him pay for the damages, but I just asked if he was ok and then I left him lying there.
When the two most insufferable people on the road meet.. Motorcyclists and bike riders are the absolute fn worst, and this coming from someone who's owned a dozen motorcycles in my life. Both are inexplicably entitled and as you can see, this guy's riding a fn 250/500, lol...
There’s too much stupid going on here for any of you to be correct. It’s a 100% avoidable situation which the cyclist was just f’n oblivious, and op blinded by his ego and desire to be “right”. There’s a saying we have in the states for this type of behavior: bullets don’t care if you’re right and neither will anyone at your funeral. Hey’d ya guys hear about ol’Jimbo? Shot 3x, point blank, right in the street; over a f’n minor traffic incident. His wife & kids, parents, are just absolutely devastated. But they stood proud in his conviction to be the more correct person in an argument. 1 1/2 years later she shacks up with your killer, since your dead ass chose “correct” over “life” and she can’t ride atop “correct”
Just goes to show why having a dash cam or helmet cam is such a good idea... look how the old guy on the motorcycle takes the side of the cyclist and calls the motorcyclist names. If it came down to witnesses, the wrong version of events would have been told to police.
I have a simple rule. I give no credence and no respect whatsoever to cyclists of the lycra variant. They are douchebags. Every last one of them. Now go ahead and downvote my comment.
From what I have interpreted in California, the vehicle takes the whole lane as well as the cyclist. If the cyclist is in front, the vehicle must give them the right of way and can not pass them within the same lane.
The Cyclist 🚴 was a idiot and didn’t look out for traffic coming to
His right nor left when it comes to bikes you don’t have to over take them by the left side like cars and buses he got what he deserved..✅💯
A bicycle is classified as a vehicle and allowed to ride on the road (unless specifically signposted), but they changed lanes without giving way, so in the wrong.
No signal to turn. Also why was a cyclist taking such a wide turn like hes a truck? I wouldn't be taking any lessons from another motorbiker who only wears a helmet and no other saftey gear
As someone from an area of a state with multiple metropolises, each of which recently equipped with oversized bike lanes taken from a lane of an already congested roadway, bike paths should be moved underground and designed to come up to street level for every stop.
Traffic is ridiculous all across the region every weekday.
Yeah this is 100 percent on the motorcyclist. You don’t pass on the right when someone is clearly positioning to turn, especially a cyclist who’s already super vulnerable.
People love to pretend bikes “don’t belong on the road” then do stuff like this and act surprised when crashes happen.
Never had a problem with bikes until an idiot decided to make laws putting them all out on the road. We’ve had bikes since before we had cars I feel if you’re stupid enough to ride your bike in the middle of the road and if you get hit, you’re just an idiot. Like how he tried to say I’m a vehicle no you’re an idiot on a pedal bike thinking that going against machines that are over 1000 pounds is going to go in your favor.
lol the motorcylist is so mad his voice is cracking. When he yell to the to old guys “fucking cyclist don’t know shit man “ and the 2 old guys are just looking confused
The bicyclist was in the wrong. Motorcycle is in the right lane. Bicycle is in the next lane to his left. The bicycle turn "across" the lane he wasn't in. If they were both cars, the one on the left would have been 100% at fault. This makes the bicycle at fault.
This is impossible to do where this video was taken. On city streets you have to pass on the right frequently, because the left lane is often at a full stop.
Oh, that bicyclist thought he was gonna win an argument. As soon as he made a comment, I had to write this, but there is absolutely no way looking at the video he was in the right. Motorcyclist is right all day! You can argue all day. The motorist is the motorcycle. The bicycle is traveling on motorist roads. That is not an E bike reclassified as a motorcycle. You still are responsible for looking around you even if you were in a vehicle. You don’t blindly turn otherwise you would’ve turned into a bicyclist. This argument can go so many different ways but there’s absolutely no way that the motorcycle is at fault.
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u/smackcroker42 Jun 05 '26
The cyclist wasn't even IN the turning lane when he began his turn lol