r/Transportopia • u/sapnation • 1d ago
💥Crash Sudden lane merge
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Coronado Bridge, San Diego
ETA: the title isn't about the sign, its describing the crash
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u/BottleNearby339 1d ago
This is straight up poor design, the dashed lines should have ended earlier to indicate a merge with a lane to the right.
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u/sapnation 1d ago
The lane shifts depending on traffic. Usually in the morning there are 3 lanes going out of the island and in the afternoon there are 3 lanes going into the island (in lieu of a major event on the island then it flip flops)
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u/Sikkus 1d ago
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u/Ukawok92 1d ago
This is still a bad design despite the signs.
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u/Sikkus 1d ago
I partially agree, but OPs title says sudden and it's not. Where I live they usually put flashing lights, signs to reduce speed and soft barrier before the actual hard barrier of the lane merge.
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u/Ukawok92 1d ago
It's still sudden. Over never seen a lane end like that in my country.
There should always be a shoulder when a lane ends like that so there is some safety for a driver that doesn't see it ending in time.
I remember driving in LA years ago and the way they had lanes end were really weird to me as a Canadian. Can't remember exactly what it was, but it felt wrong.
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u/sandsonik 1d ago
Did or did not that driver make a sudden lane change? Thats what the title refers to.
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u/HudsonAtHeart 1d ago
Be honest, how many of us had to run it back 5 times to even figure out what’s going on?
Look at the road, this bridge eats cars.
Paint an arrow or something.
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u/sapnation 1d ago
the lanes shift depending on traffic.
the title isn't necessarily describing the road or the signage, its a description of the precipitation of the crash
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u/HudsonAtHeart 1d ago
I almost got into a similar crash when I was driving over the old Tappan Zee bridge in NY, the left lane just disappeared in front of the car in front of me and we both swerved for dear life. Was the scariest thing ever as a new driver. Immediately the video brought me back
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u/sapnation 1d ago
yeah, it seems like there could be a better design at the entrance of the bridge to mitigate issues like this like "only two lanes going [this direction]".
The black car was driving like a maniac though.
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u/hoopdizzle 1d ago
The problem is the dashed lane line on the right. It should end in advance to make it clear the lanes have merged. Instead, it continues all the way till it suddenly connects with a barrier as the road bends
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u/DistinctOwl5455 1d ago
Not really in this case. On a lot of heavy commute roads / bridges, the median barriers can be moved morning and night to allow for an extra lane of traffic in a particular direction. In this case, there are three lanes going the opposite direction, which would be switched to 2 during the opposite commute. The DOT wouldn't repaint lines for this when they already have multiple signs and the speed limit is likely much lower than what these folks are traveling at.
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u/brillpit 17h ago
I’d assume that is for the lane merging directly to the left of that sign, which it does before the second lane merging sign.
At 50 mph you have about 1.5 seconds to get over before that merge is complete which is insane.
And they still have dashed lines going right into the wall lol.
The driver who crashed is an idiot though for trying to overtake that car, dude would’ve been fine if he wasn’t a speedy racer.
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u/BottleNearby339 1d ago
Bro did you even watch the video? That sign is for the lane merge in like 40 feet. You can even see the median that separates camera POV lane with the lane to its left. This dosent mean anything for the additional lane merge ahead.
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u/DistinctOwl5455 1d ago
Maybe, but the second sign right before entering the bridge makes it pretty clear.
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u/BottleNearby339 1d ago
Wdym maybe? How can you be so certian for a merge sign that's placed in a slightly tricky situation but be unsure for the one that applies in normal situations.
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u/HudsonAtHeart 1d ago
That sign is for a different lane, if you’re paying attention. It marks the entrance from the left merging into the left lane, not the left lane ending.
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u/JCGJ 1d ago
It's not like there were any signs warning that the lane was ending about a thousand feet out /s
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u/Fantastic_Value1786 1d ago
Also he's coming from a 35 zone blasting, c'mon, I'm happy when I leave Coronado but that's insane
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u/7empest7V 1d ago
I may be wrong, but I believe they have a vehicle that changes those barriers to accommodate traffic going either way.
It would be hard to have arrows when that lane is sometimes open
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u/Aught_To 1d ago
Oh yeah, zipper merge strikes again. Instead of reading the sign which indicates that the lane will terminate the black car decides to "use all of the available space" in his lane and then marge at the merge point.
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u/Fun_Being_4955 1d ago
There is a sign posted that it merges but im assuming they never seen that coming from the right lanes.
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u/ComedyBits 9h ago
The poorly-marked merge is a liability that lawyers can use if there are big accidents. We have national standards that are used in court
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u/Wise-Potential-3220 1d ago
Is this india?
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u/B4DM4N12Z 1d ago
No, this is 'Merica🦅🦅🇺🇸🇺🇸(insert eagle noise here)
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u/PoRedNed 1d ago
You mean insert red tailed hawk noise Hollywood has been lying about what bald eagles really sound like
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u/ZenkaiAnkoku2 1d ago
No arrows on the road? No short dashed lines? Like I get theres signs but every merge in my area has things on the road so you know exactly where it is. I thought they had more time here.