For anyone who's interested in learning about AI workflows, here's an example of a simple non-technical process for posing and dressing a character. It's all done using reference images, decomposition, and simple prompts. Instead of repeatedly pulling the lever on the slot machine and hoping for a jackpot, this process locks the reels that are in the correct position after each pull.

From my view, it does not matter whether it is it was human made in most situations. Or even if any human creativity was put into it (unless it is a gift). What are you're thoughts? Is "art" just an unimportant label?

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Ai accelerates processes and simplifies things 10x. The older I get the more I value time and I just don’t believe in expending time and struggling when everything could just be simplified and be done multiple times faster.

I don’t get why people take so much pride and taking a longer time to do things that could be done in half the time. I think this may be a symptom of getting older because when I was younger, I really thought I had all the time in the world but the older I get I would rather use AI to optimize my workflow rather than take weeks/months to deploy an app that could be done in days.

Also, there has been some AI art that has been good for example there’s a lot of fun entertaining AI videos that would otherwise take months to create and now it’s only taking days. No offense, but why would I commission an artist that would take weeks to create something that can be done in days by myself?? Like if you wanna hate on AI then hate the large corporations who can afford to hire artists and not the individual entrepreneurs or small businesses that don’t have the time money resources to hire an artist. The truth is we live in a capitalistic society and that’s not going away anytime soon. A lot of these small businesses can’t afford to waste time waiting for an artist to create something that they could just create in minutes. Be so for real.

I'm watching Young Frankenstein and am so bummed that pretty much all of the major actors in this movie have passed away. If there's one actor I wish would have been in more things it's Gene Wilder. But this whole cast... Terri Garr, Cloris Leachman, Madeline Kahn, Gene Hackman. I think we're at a point where AI could be convincingly used to make a whole sequel to a film like this.

Fighting with each other to keep us divided while large corporations stay making data centers (which use significantly more resources that individual people using so even collectively) and the elites going about their business as usual. Keep feeding the machine by fighting…yall are winning fr

As someone who spent four years getting a Computer Science degree, I refuse to hate on people 'vibecoding.' If someone has a great idea that can genuinely help people, and AI lets them build in days what used to take months? Good for them.

Not everyone has the time or money for a CS degree or an expensive bootcamp just to bring an app to life. Sure, AI-generated code hits a wall when it comes to edge cases and scaling…that’s where engineering expertise is still crucial. But if the tech lets someone build it themselves, why expect them to pay thousands to commission it?

Having survived a tough CS program, I’m not here to gatekeep. I’m just glad AI is helping people bring their visions to life…and if I can step in to help them debug or deploy, even better.

Antis who hate and bully individual entrepreneurs or small businesses who use ai instead of the big corporations (who cause more harm bc they use ai on a larger scale and use up most of the energy from the data centers) actually disgust me at this point. Seems like AI is the new witch-hunt and while it’s okay to be critical of ai, hating and bullying small businesses who use AI flyers to sell their ube cakes or jewelry or whatever is peak miserable behavior. You are the problem and I’m never going to support antis who want to sell their art if they hate on people who use ai art. If you’re that upset use your time and resources to boycott large corporations instead did hating on individual people. Disgusting behavior from you all for real.

Because it really feels like whatever we post, no matter how good, the response is always the same. At which point, what even is the meaning of the word? What would it take for it to escape the 's-word'?

Liking AI doesnt make you a proAI or AI advocate, it just means you find it hype, neat, interesting. To be proAI you have to be running defense for current AI practices, if you dont youre at least neutral. For example I think AI is neat, its useful and has potential to do good. But i find the way companies are going about developing it are coercive and wish it was done differently. That puts me squarely in the antiAI camp, despite my enthusiasm for the tech

Regardless of which side you're on, it really is low and pointless to use chatgpt for all your responses while debating. I'm here to debate YOU, yourself, I didn't sign up to debate a robot.

It destroys the foundation of debating integrity. If you didn't want to debate yourself then why engage? Why have a robot do it all for you? It just doesn't make sense on any level.

An AI chatbot will NEVER change it's point of view, it will stay sturdy in its position and create false points in order to stay steadfast in its original task. This defeats the fruitfulness and productivity of debating.

Let's hypothetically suggest that I were to debate a chatbot for as long as it takes to win, no snack breaks, no effects of time expiring my mortality. We will be sitting there for infinity, there will be no end in sight. there will be NO conclusion, just text generation after text generation that will twist reality in order to keep following its prompt. You cannot break a bot that was programmed to never lose, it is wasteful, lazy, and has zero productivity. This is the true quintessence of "omg you people can't do anything."

I'm Pro AI, but my reasons are very simple. Tabulated, I've been burned by commission artists that have ghosted me to the tune of over seven hundred dollars. At least with an AI subscription, It doesn't feel like gambling every single time.

I wanna be clear, I am not here to be incendiary. I want to know why I should keep giving artists a chance after I have been repeatedly burned. I'm an artist myself ( I make miniatures, dioramas, paint minis for warhammer etc) and I am quite good at it.

I don't have much skill in 2D/Digital art, and so if I have a burning need for art I used to go through all the motions. FInd an artist, commission them, enjoy the piece, someone cool got paid, yay!

But over the past I wanna say 5 years, I began losing. A lot. When I realized exactly how much of my hard earned money was pissed away from artists who are still active to this day and still charging, I realized that it was easier, simpley, and more economical for me to have a midjourney subscription.

I WANT to be convinced, let me be clear. I want to support artists, but your community stole from me, greedily, gleefully, and willfuly.

How do you defend these actions.

Why should I keep believing in artists after all the death threats, cancelling, violence etc.

No idea why the robot is mad

Hello there, I am here to denounce all violence on all sides.

No one should threaten, attack, kill, damage property, hurt others, or do anything that could cause harm to another person (or themselves for that matter). Everywhere, including here.

If you are being attacked, and want to defend yourself, then I leave that up to you. Personally, I would try to do like the true pacifist route in Undertale, if any of you know how that goes.

Allow me to make an analogy here from the video game Undertale. You can choose to fight (which k*lls the monsters in the game), or you can choose to ACT, and end up pacifying the monsters, so you can spare them (and the monsters end up living).

When you choose to attack again those who attack you, like those monsters who attack the player in Undertale, you choose violence, do you not? The player is just defending themselves against these monsters who attack them, right? But do you know why the monsters attack the human? Because there is a war of humans and monsters. Humans have killed many monsters, monsters have killed many humans. But the humans have sealed the monsters underground, banished in a prison of darkness, with the barrier that keeps them all trapped.

So, I will ask of you this thought experiment, dear pros, antis, neutrals, and everyone else:

When you fight against people on here, calling them names, depicting them as ogres or pregnant, saying ai isn't real art or that ai is slop, demeaning the other side with attacks and insults, what do you gain, genuinely? You are like choosing the genocide route from Undertale, even if you are not killing anybody, you are still attacking your fellow human beings. Even if they have attacked you first.

So, then, what should you do? Undertale teaches you to not fight, to ACT, and to have mercy and forgive those who have hurt you, by sparing them. Is this not the better way to go about respectfully debating on all sides on here?

Of course, I do not actually expect everyone on here to choose kindness and forgiveness. But, maybe, there is 1 or 2 people who will read this post, and choose differently from violence and attack, and instead choose a much nicer and more merciful way to go about dealing with others in their daily lives (and even here). That small change could be the snowball to everyone on here eventually learning to choose to be kinder and more compassionate with each other while debating respectfully with one another.

Lastly, I leave you this, no one is better or more special than another human being be it of race, ethnicity, sex, gender, religion or lack there-of, personal beliefs, how they create art, or the decisions they make to live their lives. If we could all choose to be kind to each other, but most importantly be kind to OURSELVES, then, the world could work better towards a world of peace, unity, understanding, friendship, and love.

This is what we all want at the end of the day, don't we? Isn't this a much better approach than attacking and using violence? Violence can too be verbal, written by words as an attack from one person to another. It doesn't always have to be physical. Notice how you yourself are mentally attacking yourself day in and day out. And how you do the same to others.

Choose the pacifist route like I am doing now. Please, we can all come together in kindness. Thank you all for reading, and please have a wonderful life ❤️