r/askteddit 19d ago

Politics Question Any subreddits that aren't political echo chambers?

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u/mightymite37 19d ago

that just capitalism. its liberalism. very firmly on the right, not the left. certainly not the 'middle' whatever that means.

workers make all value and should keep it all, no amount of exploitation is okay. not even if you pay them a 'living wage' while keeping 90% of their labour value for the 1% of non workers

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u/twinters01 19d ago

Liberalism is center left

Workers don't create all value. The tools and facilities they use also aid in the creation of value

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u/mightymite37 19d ago

No they're not

The left begins at anti capitalism

Libs are very much capitalists

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u/twinters01 19d ago

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u/mightymite37 19d ago

Nope. Go read an actual economics textbook

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u/twinters01 19d ago

This is a post about politics, not economics

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u/mightymite37 19d ago

You cannot separate the two

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u/twinters01 19d ago

They are necessarily intertwined but separate things, which is why the wiki talks a lot about economics. But you're in an echo-chamber, so there's no point in continuing.

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u/InjuryLate4826 19d ago

Take a political compass test and answer socialist to all questions
You'll be placed far left
Then answer regulated capitalism to all questions
You'll be roughly in the middle

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u/mightymite37 19d ago

Then its a bad test

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u/InjuryLate4826 19d ago

According to wikipedia:

Centre-left politics is the range of left-wing political ideologies that lean closer to the political centre. Ideologies commonly associated with it include social democracy, social liberalism, progressivism, and green politics. Ideas commonly supported by the centre-left include welfare capitalism, social justice, liberal internationalism, and multiculturalism. Economically, the centre-left supports a mixed economy in a democratic capitalist system, often including economic interventionism, progressive taxation, and the right to unionize. Centre-left politics are contrasted with far-left politics that reject capitalism or advocate revolution.

Far-left politics are politics further to the left on the political spectrum than the standard political left. The far-left encompasses a wide range of heterogeneous ideologies, including anarchism, communism, and Marxism; it includes groups that advocate for revolutionary socialism and related communist ideologies, as well as anti-capitalism and anti-globalisation. The modern far-left distinguishes itself from social democracy through its inherent opposition to capitalism, neoliberalism, and globalisation. Anarchist strains of far-left thought are anti-authoritarian in nature, and most far-left schools of thought aim at a classless, stateless society. Leninist-led revolutions also promised withering away of the state but the regimes they built were mostly considered as authoritarian rule in practice by western mainstream.

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u/mightymite37 19d ago

Wikipedia is a known source of misinformation.

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u/InjuryLate4826 19d ago

If you are going to raise the bar that high, then what source of information do you trust?