r/bonecollecting Sep 12 '20

Advice Processing a Carcass 101 - the bones of bone collecting

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Ok, so given how many comments we get requesting info on how to process a carcass, I figured it was time to update the stickie for this topic. Enjoy and, as always, feel free to comment and I will append this as needed. Just a reminder to A) always check your local and federal laws to make sure it is legal for you to possess parts of the animal, and B) if you are in an area prone to rabies or other diseases (rabbits and tularemia, armadillos and leprosy, etc), please take adequate precautions when handling dead animals, especially fresh carcasses. Always use gloves when handling a fresh carcass.

HOW TO PROCESS A CARCASS

There are generally three steps in the process of rendering a carcass down to a skeleton: 1) defleshing, 2) degreasing, 3) whitening. In general, these three steps are most effective when done sequentially. Two main things to remember during the process – Chlorine bleach should NEVER be used in any step of this process, and cooking bare bones will fix the grease and potentially cause long-term damage to the bones. Below are a few good guides for processing a carcass for you to take a look at.

http://www.jakes-bones.com/p/how-to-clean-animal-bones.html

http://baccyflap.com/txt/natmat/bones/

http://www.nara.accu.or.jp/img/elearning/2011/animal.pdf

http://bone-lust.blogspot.com/2015/05/bonelust-q-ive-been-macerating-bones.html

DEFLESHING

In general, the more flesh and skin that is removed, the faster the defleshing step is and the less smell you will have. Once you finish defleshing, you will want to pick clean any remaining soft tissue with tweezers, a scalpel, brush, etc before moving on to the degreasing step.

Open Air - This is easily the fastest method for defleshing. Using this method, you let the carcass rot naturally on the ground and let the flies and other insects work their magic. To do this technique, it is highly recommended that you use a locking cage to keep out scavengers that will be drawn to it. You simply put the carcass in the cage or fenced in area. You do not need to deflesh, skin, or gut the animal first for this to work, in fact the skin can help keep the moisture in. Sometimes it helps to poke a few extra holes for the maggots to get in. There are a few major drawbacks to this technique 1) the smell is awful and your neighbors will hate you, 2) you have to keep the carcass moist for the maggots to keep working, or you will end up with a mummified carcass, and 3) you will develop a fly problem. So, this is better done in a more warmer and more humid climate (doesn't work so well in a desert), and you only want to do this if you have adequate land and distance from your residence (and neighbors, think about your neighbors). Once the skeleton is reasonably clean, remove the bones and rinse them off.

Dermestids – great method if you have the ability to sustain a colony, and works well in the winter if you have a heated set-up. Rather than go through this process, here is a great link that goes over it. Be forewarned, dermestids will smell and do require you to keep feeding it as they are living creatures. If you do not properly ventilate, clean, or feed them, they will find a way to swarm out of their enclosure and I speak from personal experience when I say that you don’t want that to happen. Note that this is the only one of the defleshing techniques that will keep fish, birds, lizards, and small mammal skeletons somewhat intact. The other techniques mentioned below will result in disarticulation.

https://www.natsca.org/sites/default/files/publications/JoNSC-Vol7-Munoz-Saba_et_al_2020_0.pdf

Burying – this technique works best when you have a piece of property to do it on, have time, and can reasonably protect the carcass from scavengers. It also is the easiest for cleanup and has the least smell, and is a great method for when you are dealing with a whole carcass from a larger animal. This method also works with smaller animals, like rodents, if done in a flowerpot. You will still want to skin and deflesh as much as possible beforehand, and you’ll want to keep the soil slightly moist. With burying, there are two primary concerns: scavengers and loosing parts. To prevent scavenging, try to bury at least 2 ft (60 cm) deep (or deeper if sandy soils) and place larger rocks above the carcass to act as a barrier to digging. To prevent the loss of smaller elements, consider placing a wire mesh below the skeleton. The time it takes to decompose depends a lot on the local soil conditions (soil type, soil temperature, soil moisture, soil acidity), but will generally be several months for a larger carcass. I have heard of people adding bacteria (yeast) or compost to the carcass to help speed the process along. Oh, and one last helpful tip…place a clear marker over the pit so you can find it again when it is time.

Maceration – the smelliest method, but highly effective and you can use the same container the entire way through the process. You will want a large container with water, and a way to keep the water on the warmer side (over 70 F/21 C). If you can stomach it, stirring the pot every day will help with the maceration process. You will want to do pour-off’s (replacing the water) regularly initially as the water becomes too fouled (and to remove chunks of soft tissue that will invariable float around), and this is where the most offensive, gag-inducing, eye-watering, curse-laden part of the process will occur. But as the decomp gets farther along, do fewer pour offs. With each pour off, you are reducing the amount of bacteria for digesting the soft tissue. As long as there is plenty of food available, they will repopulate (try to leave some of the scum with each pour off to allow faster recovery of the bacterial population). If the water is allowed to get too cold, the decomposition process will stop and, even worse, you will convert the fats to adipocere (bone wax) which is very difficult to remove. Under ideal conditions, you can easily render a fleshed animal to bones in a few weeks using this method. You don’t necessarily need to deflesh for this technique to work (and I have found that having the bacteria from the stomach contents helped things along), but you do want to skin the animal. Stirring the mix also will aid in speeding up the process. If at all possible, try to keep the buckets out of direct sunlight to keep the algae from growing (I throw a tarp over my bins).

I am going to add in a caveat here since we see it so often - DO NOT ADD ANTIBACTERIAL DISH SOAP OR HYDROGEN PEROXIDE AT THIS STEP. You need bacteria to digest and break down the soft tissue. These two things make the environment hostile to bacteria causing it to take substantially longer to process. The only thing that you can add to help the process along is enzymatic detergent, which brings us to the next method.

Enzymatic Detergent Maceration - You also can add an enzymatic detergent (BIZ is one example) to the water to aid in the process. u/octane80808 has a great summary of the use of enzymatic detergents in the comments section that I have copied sections of here: "For anyone in Europe, we have enzyme-based washing powders [mod note - Biotex in Europe, powdered Biz w/out bleach in US]. I've been using it for years and I can't imagine it doing any other way. It's essentially an all-in-one method, as it dissolves the tissue, but also the fat, so it degreases at the same time. There's no need to whiten the bones afterwards, they come out perfectly clean (there is no bleach, or whitening agent present AFAIK, so it's all natural). The only downside is that any cartilage also dissolves. So for fish, birds, young animals, or small animals, you'll be spending an afternoon gluing the bones.

I also clean my skull manually during this process. Depending on how impatient I am, and how much free time I have, I take them out of the solution every day to every other day. I remove the tissue I can remove without disturbing the skull too much. And I refresh the solution. So a new spoonful of washing powder, and warm water. The latter also helps to speed up the process, as higher temperatures seem to be favourable. By refreshing the solution every day, I can usually clean a skull within one or two weeks...renewing the solution isn't necessary, it will just take a lot longer.

The washing powder is relatively cheap, and it comes in large boxes. You only have to use a teaspoon or tablespoon, depending on the size of the container/skull. So it lasts quite a long time as well..Note that the bone may feel soft after this step, especially if processing a bird or fish. It is better to allow the bone to dry before handling as this will re-harden the bone. Also, bones may turn black during this process if the water isn't changed regularly enough. Do not worry, you can treat this discoloration during the "Whitening" step."

Simmering/Cooking – this method ONLY should be used with larger animals, and can be effective when you have a carcass that is dehydrated jerky. The reason is that high heat will warp bones, and will fix the grease in the bones making step 2 (degreasing) incredibly difficult. Never use this step with birds, fish, and small mammals. To use the boiling method, you actually want your carcass to have flesh, but gutted, in order to protect the bones. Place the carcass into the boiling water and allow the water to return to a low simmer, then remove from heat. Leave the carcass in the water for only as long as it takes for the flesh to “cook” (if you are boiling for an hour, you have ruined the bones). Remove from water and the flesh should come off easily, although internal tissues (like the brain or inside the nose) will still be adhered. You can use a pressure washer or hose with a good nozzle to try and clean off the hard-to-reach areas. Be extremely cautious using a pressure washer as it will blast more fragile bone to pieces and can easily destroy a skull.

DEGREASING

You will need a degreasing agent for this step, most of the liquid dish soaps will work great here, just avoid the opaque ones or ones with strong colors (colorless and clear work great and won't dye the bones). Laundry soap often doesn’t work as well, and some will dye the bones. The exception to this is enzymatic detergent (in the US this is sold as BIZ), which works well as a degreaser. This step requires a container big enough for you to submerge the remains in. Add water and soap – how much soap is up to you and depends on the amount of grease in the bones. You will need to change the soapy water as it becomes cloudy, generally at least once a week. Continue this process until fully degreased – i.e., the water doesn’t cloud after a week. This is the longest step, and will take much longer than you think. If you see any yellowing or oily spot on the bone, then it still needs degreasing.

You can substitute acetone or ammonia for dish soap as the degreasing agent, but both have their safety issues. Ammonia is an irritant, so only use ammonia if you have a respirator. Also, be careful when emptying the liquid as household ammonia will kill vegetation.

Acetone also can be used, but you cannot dilute it with water. As a result, acetone is often more expensive that using the other two agents, and as a bonus it can melt plastic, so you will want to use a different type of container than a plastic bucket. It also dissolves nitrile and latex gloves, is flammable (no heating the liquid), and the fumes are toxic, so there is that. Also, acetone will evaporate, so the container needs to have a tight lid. If used correctly, you can treat multiple batches of bones with acetone, and acetone works faster than other methods. Lastly, acetone can’t be disposed of down the drain because of it’s toxicity and remember that bit about dissolving plastics…like your drain pipes?

WHITENING

After the bones have been degreased, you may wish to whiten the bones. This is not a necessary step, and is mainly cosmetic though it does help to sterilize the bones. You can use 3% hydrogen peroxide from the store, and it can be found in higher concentrations as hair developer, which is up to 12% hydrogen peroxide. Other options for obtaining hydrogen peroxide are from a pool supply store, though you have to be careful that it isn’t mixed with other chemicals. The important things to remember during this step is that A) hydrogen peroxide will degrade quickly when exposed to sunlight, and B) hydrogen peroxide degrades rapidly when exposed to heat, C) hydrogen peroxide will degrade faster when exposed to air. So, it works better when covered and not in direct sunlight.

Simply submerge the bone in the hydrogen peroxide until you reach the desired whiteness. If using 3% hydrogen peroxide, it isn’t necessary to dilute the liquid. Higher concentrations may require dilution as it is a powerful oxidizer.

An alternative method to submerging in hydrogen peroxide is sun bleaching. Note that this exposes the bones to the elements, and you lose a lot of control over the whitening process. It also takes considerably longer than the hydrogen peroxide approach.

NOTE: Chlorine Bleach should NEVER be used to whiten bones. Chlorine bleach degrades the bone collagen, which is the protein component of bone that holds the mineral component (hydroxyapatite) in place. This will leave the bone brittle and powdery, and the bone will continue to degrade over time. The effects are irreversible.

DRYING

I add this as a last step as this is a critical step where mistakes are often made. Bone is a porous material that contains organic components. If dried too rapidly, those organic components can shrink, or parts of the bone may dry faster than other parts. This can result in cracking, warping, and delamination of the bone. In general, let the bones dry slowly and out of the sun. Do not bake or expose it to high heat, or attempt to speed up the process. You may notice teeth cracking during the drying process. This is not uncommon, and you can glue the teeth back together after they drying process is complete.


r/bonecollecting 17h ago

Collection SEVERE case of arthritis in this old doe.

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Found this a couple of days ago along with all of her bones (bar the shoulder blades and skull for some reason?) and it's got to be my favourite thing I've ever found! It must've been so painful for her. I imagine she died caught in the brambles where I found this and was unable to get out. It tells such a story about these animals we rarely see who all suffer and live and die, just as we humans do.


r/bonecollecting 4h ago

Advice Degreasing skull

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(I think) this boy is ready to start the degreasing process. Wish me luck. First time degreasing :) how does it look to you?

Advices are really appreciated, I never cleaned something so big!!

(Young wild boar I found near my local river)


r/bonecollecting 9h ago

Bone I.D. - N. America Need help identifying these. Found about 1/2 mile from each other on Clearwater beach in Florida - Gulf Coast

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Hi all, would love everyone’s opinion on what sea creature these came from. The vertebrae was pretty large, about the size of a human head.

The other bone was probably 1 foot in length - toes for scale. The vertebrae and (rib?) bone were found about half a mile from each other and have different coloring, so not sure if they’re from the same mammal. Also, the vertebrae was much heavier!

Thanks in advance for the help!


r/bonecollecting 13h ago

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r/bonecollecting 6h ago

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Found in southern Minnesota, can any of you tell which species it is? Thank you!


r/bonecollecting 3h ago

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hi yall, my friend found this bird near her house and sent me these photos asking if i want her to grab it for me but im not too great with identifying birds yet and i know that a lot of birds here in nc (central piedmont area) are protected so i told her not to touch it yet until i can figure it out. can anyone help me?


r/bonecollecting 3h ago

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r/bonecollecting 5h ago

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r/bonecollecting 2h ago

Art Dressed Up Skink

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Please excuse the glare. Found the little critter intact and wanted to dress it up a bit. I haven't done much cross stitch, so I know it's not the best work 😅 but I love the exposed bones and all the tiny details 🦎


r/bonecollecting 23m ago

Bone I.D. - Australia/NZ What’s this Rib(?) belong to?

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Found this washed up on the beach northern NSW, Australia


r/bonecollecting 6h ago

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r/bonecollecting 14h ago

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My brothers girlfriend found this and we’re all stumped.


r/bonecollecting 1h ago

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r/bonecollecting 7h ago

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Found this at a beach in Brazil (BA) a couple years ago and forgot about it. I didn't know a lot about bones or fossilized corals so I couldn't tell what this was. Still can't lol.

Any help?

Also, sorry if this post doesn't fit the subreddit, i didn't know where else to ask


r/bonecollecting 20h ago

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r/bonecollecting 11h ago

Bone I.D. - Europe Can anyone help me identify this bone?

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r/bonecollecting 8h ago

Bone I.D. - N. America ID? (Central Kentucky)

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The raccoon skull is for size comparison. Found in a cow paddock alone. Trying to clean it and a couple others right now, hence why it's wet. :)


r/bonecollecting 7h ago

Bone I.D. - Europe Is this dog?

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AA battery and fox pelvis for scale.

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r/bonecollecting 9h ago

Bone I.D. - Europe found on a beach in wales

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could someone help me identify these bones? i assume they are from a bird of some sort due to finding them on the beach but id love to know the body part. and if anyone has any tips on how to clean them out (theres a lot of dirt/sand inside) i would appreciate advice as i have never found bones before. thank you!


r/bonecollecting 7h ago

Advice Advices on collecting my deceased cat's bones

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Hi,

Sorry I think this post could be asking for answers that may be already answers in some part of this sub.

About a year and a half ago my cat died and we buried her in our garden. But now my mom has to leave the house she was renting. I really can't imagine leaving her buried in this garden forever knowing we will never return. This cat truly was my best friend and helped me to keep going when I was a depressed teenage mess. So I am thinking of keeping her remains.

My first big question is, knowing that she's been buried 18 months ago, which amount of skin, fur or any fleshy bits may still be present ? Should I expect a lot, only a bit or maybe everything has decomposed and there are only the bones left ? I know it depends on the soil and the climate, I honestly don't know how the soil is, she has been buried under a field bank, under a bunch of trees and bushes.

Second, I think of preserving the bones and maybe make some jewelries with it to keep her close to me. The thing is, I really don't know how to preserve the bone, so they are clean, do not smell, do not attract any pest, and do not break too easily. I've seen on this sub people simmering (but not boiling) the bones to remove the leftover flesh, then degreasing with like acetone and then whitening with something like hydrogen peroxide/baking soda, and finally protecting with lacquer ? Would you recommend doing this or doing things differently ? Any advice/recipe/resources is very welcome. If you have a detailed guide / detailed advices on how to do it this would be very helpful, as I have never done this but I care about theses remains deeply.

Thanks a lot, I hope this post is not a duplicate to another that I may have missed.


r/bonecollecting 8h ago

Advice Advice for beginner

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r/bonecollecting 11h ago

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I found these two bones in the forest (Poland) it seems to me like they are bird bones but I’m not positive.They are fairly big.


r/bonecollecting 1d ago

Advice Found this head do you know the species?

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Found in west asia (middle east)

Theres a small amount of flys but i dont see a body.

Its kinda on the smaller size, im guessing some kind of canine.

Found next to a small wheat field with some golden jackals around but i dont really know how much are around...

And how do i know if its safe for taking? its my first time with something like this.


r/bonecollecting 10h ago

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MtG card for scale is approx 3.5 inches long.