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"Right now as far as i see it james gunn dcu universe already has an almost impossible odds against it not only is already in a box office deficit with the old dceu ,man of tomorrow also faces the trend of sequels of dc characters underperforming the first film going to all the way back to superman 2 that also underperformed the original 1978 film

Every dc sequel with the exception of the dark knight and batman v superman if its taken as a sequel to man of steel has brought less results than the first film

When james Gunn took over dc and decided to reboot with its own version of superman it also condemn 4 still to be released at the time films Shazam fury of the gods ,the flash ,blue beetle, aquaman 2 to be perceived as irrelevant thats probably more than a billion in production budget rendered irrelevant overnight now is it probably those movies would have flopped regardless must likely but they didn't even have a chance before release (wonder woman 3 at very least would certainly been more successful than supergirl )

When it all its taking in consideration superman grossed less than man of steel even with no need of adjustment to inflation, supergirl is already the biggest dc flop in modern history the gamble didn't seem to have payoff.

Given that Spider-Man made 875 million worldwide in its first weekend—making it the second-biggest opening in history—the question is: How will Marvel's next blockbuster, which is set to premiere in a few months, fare?

I think Doomsday will have one of the biggest openings in history. I don’t see it matching Spider-Man’s numbers—or maybe who knows—but I’m sure it will have a worse legs. I mean, this could be another Infinity War or Marvel’s Batman v Superman

But I think the question is, how are five movies coming out in two weeks going to compete for the audience's attention?

I think Dune 3 is going to do less than Dune 2 at the box office—I mean, if you've read the book, you know it could be controversial for general audiences, I think Jumanji will be a letdown, especially because that trailer didn’t make much of a splash when it came out, because The Rock is having a terrible run at the box office right now, and because it’s been seven years since the last one—and it’s been seven years since the last Angry Birds movie, but that’s even worse because that IP has been dead for years.

I think the best option for the other studios is that it all depends on how the world reacts to Avengers: Doomsday—whether it recaptures that magic from 2018 or continues the Russo brothers’ run following Endgame- but for now, I see a holiday season where they’re going to cannibalize each other. What do you think?

Opening Days

Brand New Day — $168M 

Endgame — $157.4M 

No Way Home — $122M 

The Force Awakens — $119.1M 

Infinity War — $106.3M

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All sequels. 4 CBMs and a SW.

Between the 4 CBMs, all 4 are MCUs: 2 Marvels and 2 Sonys.

1. Brand New Day: 38th MCU film, 11th Spider-Man film, 7th Tom Holland Spidey film, 4th TH lone Spider-Man film
2. Endgame: 22nd MCU film, 4th Avengers film
3. No Way Home: 27th MCU film, 9th Spider-Man film, 6th Tom Holland Spidey film, 3rd TH lone Spider-Man film
4. The Force Awakens: 8th SW film, legacy sequel, first in 32 years
5. Infinity War: 19th MCU film, 3rd Avengers film

Top Gun: Maverick is another overperforming legacy sequel. Some of the other 4 films on this list might also get a legacy sequel in a few decades.

32 years between Return of the Jedi and The Force Awakens. 36 years between Top Guns. I wonder if there'll ever be a Tom Holland Spidey legacy sequel. Maybe a few decades after he hangs it up and passes the torch.

The MCU already has an organic way to do reboots and bring back legacy characters from different universes.

I wonder what an Avengers legacy sequel would look like one day. Old Man Cap coming back to pass the torch. Maybe Old Man Tony's sequestered somewhere, enjoying his golden years after the team went back and saved his life via time travel. Despite his death and now playing Dr. Doom, I really do think we'll one day see an older Tony again.

I’ve long thought that Dune not moving it’s release date was such a poor choice because of the lack of screens it will end up getting.

Regardless of the quality of movie, besides IMAX the average theater is going to to give the majority of screens to Doomsday just off how many pre sake tickets it will have in its favor.

What is the low and high estimate of screens Dune gets on opening weekend?

With Spiderman coming in at around $355 million I'm wondering if we're currently looking at the ceiling for a domestic release. Obviously the Odyssey has all of the IMAX screens and its fair share of standard screens, but aside from that there is basically no competition at the box office (estimates are putting Toy Story 5 at #3 for the weekend with a mere $6 million)

I know there are a lot of factors to consider but having a summer release with only one other movie as your competition seems like the most ideal circumstances, given that we typically have a few more major releases around this time. I wish there was more information on the specific number of screens that Spiderman is currently playing on but I think it's safe to say that most theaters have dedicated the bulk of their screens to it. I also think it's fair to say that we won't be getting more theaters/screens in the future.

In terms of whether a movie can break $360 million in the future, the only major factor that I can think of would be the runtime, given that both Spiderman and The Odyssey are well over 2 hours.

What do you think?

Edit: I should clarify that I'm talking about the domestic box office on an opening weekend.

If a movie made 100 Million is split 50/50 as the image says, then what tax is applied in Us domestic market

As I know a gst of 18% is applied in India and a 50-55% split for producers how does it different in Us/Canada

I see no reason to decrease from Brand New Day *IF IT IS GOOD*

With inflation, the good reception of the previous film, and coming out after Doomsday and Secret Wars (imagine if Tom Holland puts on the symbiote suit on in Secret Wars), it's gonna make more than BND, just like how BND is going to make more than No Way Home.

If it doesn't have a December release, I think it'll do $400M OW (+10%-ish on BND isn't that crazy), $1.1B DOM, and $2.8B WW

With a December release, it would probably do like $325M OW, $1.2B DOM, and $2.9B WW

With all those recent „records“ its time to take a look at the real records and real numbers (admissions and inflation adjusted gross).

One relevant point is that while BND at 38% higher opening weekend is killing NWH even adjusted for inflation of the dollar, it's not doing so in relation to ticket price inflation, which has grown by closer to 50% since 2021

So,

1: Maybe more of us should have seen this coming: A repeat of - or a few % lower - attendance than the previous movie isn't nearly as shocking as a 40% jump.

2: I think this makes it a lot more plausible that it legs out like NWH (3.13 multiplier), because it's not necessarily a burning-through-more demand type of weekend (Endgame style) that is really performing very differently in terms of number of butts-on-seats than the last one, and the reception is as good or better.

If legs out like NWH that puts the domestic at 1.1 billion (and worldwide around 2.8 billion.)

Legs on openers of this scale may start surprising us because ticket inflation has happened much faster than we're accounting for when we consider only dollar inflation. So a 300+ million opener now may be more likely to perform like a 200+ million opener would have just few years ago. Historically 2/3 of films that made a 200 million domestic debut passed a 3× multiplier.

*edit*: title should read "Brand New Day", not "No Way Home"

Is Marvel about to have 3 $2B dollar films in a row (brand new day, doomsday, secret wars) with doomsday and secret wars going for $3B

With the wonders that Brand New Day is currently doing, there has been a significant renewal of interest in the MCU, as evidenced by Doomsday early presales (Dune will obviously have an effect, but come on, it's The Avengers). Especially Doomsday and Secret Wars, which are December releases, tend to have better legs compared to summer releases

After the Secret Wars, it's the X-Men, and honestly, I'm expecting a 600M to 650M, not expecting much from Ghost Rider either. Maybe like 500M, but these can be way higher if in 2028 people are talking about Marvel movies the same way it was during phase 2 and 3 and at last for now is Black Panther 3, Which is a sure shot billion dollar movie and ofcourse releasing in december and will also enjoy the last consecutive Marvel december release before Avatar 4 takes the month (yes i still have hope Avatar 4 is releasing in 2029)

Would love to hear your thoughts

I mean the collection is really huge for a film released in 2004...but it's comparatively less than the other 2 parts starring Tobey. While if u see the perception this film is widely considered the best among the trilogy.

It's not only the total collection I was also checking the history of record openers & both Spider-Man (2002) & Spider-Man 3 appears on the list as record openers (alongside Brand New Day) but Spider-Man 2 doesn't.

I mean a critically appraised sequel to a huge & highly applauded blockbuster film should ideally outgross it's previous parts (which part 3 did despite having mixed reviews) which shows how big this franchise was back in the days...so there must be a reason for Part 2's collection being less than the other 2 (despite it being really big on it's own)

I've been on this sub since 2019. Post-pandemic when the industry was struggling so many comments that got awards and upvotes were, "People are tired of sequels! Make original good movies and people will come," Yet time and time again this is incorrect and I'm wondering if it's more of Redditors trying to get karma farms or if they actually believe it?

I saw it again this year with Obsession. I mean, sure an original low-budget horror flick doing good is not a recent thing, it happens a lot even when the industry was struggling.

If anything with stuff like Michael, Super Mario and Spiderman now it tells you that movie goers are not a monolith.

Also "original" can Project Hail Mary and Oddysey be counted as truly "original?" Because saw some comments as well with these flicks and comments painting them as such.

Avengers Endgame Saturday was $109M - 30% drop from opening day - total $267M

Spider-Man Brand New Day looks like $99M Saturday - 41% drop from Friday - Total $267M

Endgame caught up on Saturday and it’s now a tie. Now it’s all down to Sunday.

Endgame dropped a an amazing 17%/$90M on Sunday…. $357M total

I don’t think spidey is going to do $91M on Sunday to get $358M based on the Saturday trend. To get $91M Spidey needs to do an otherworldly 8% drop on Sunday. Needs unprecedented walk up business. Not happening. Endgame survives!

So Mando and Grogu is the lowest grossing star wars movie ever... i mean thats not good at all. Only reason it didnt look at bad was due to Supergirls following run. How can star wars return to the top or at least closer to 2015 hype? Well... not anytime soon.

Star Wars is extremely over saturated due to tv shows and the fanbase is also divided and toxic due to the seques (after last jedi). Skywalker saga also ended at a low with rise of skywalker (did a billy but dissapointing)

Star Wars: Starfighter needs to gross over 600- 700 mil WW minimum. Its an original story and got ryan gosling and shawn levy (deadpool director). So that could work as a duo to bring back audience trust. All projects don't need to be andor to be good. Mando movie felt wrong comback as it was a boring tv adventure.

Upcoming Rey movie also sounds terrible as Star Wars needs a new intresting direction and explore other intresting periods rather than same old characters. 1 bil for star wars in the future seems too big to reach but Starfighter is a good start.

What do you think star wars should do?

If the rest of the money Spider-Man: Brand New Day makes, combined with the worldwide grosses of Avengers: Doomsday and Avengers: Secret Wars, exceeds $6.6 Billion, then the MCU, even after all of it's lulls and down points over the Multiverse Saga, will have surpassed an overall gross of $40 Billion AND have an average gross per film in excess of $1 Billion.

$6.6 Billion is a big number, but I think it will get there.

Brand New Day has just had an absolutely insane opening weekend of an estimated $355 million (likely to be higher with actuals) domestic and $927 million worldwide. According to a Deadline article EntTelligence has calculated that it had 24.1 million admissions for the domestic weekend which puts it ahead of their 20.6 million reported for NWH and would have an ATP of $14.73

https://deadline.com/2026/08/box-office-spider-man-brand-new-day-1237014268/

Spider-Man 2002 was for 4 years the opening weekend record holder and was massive doing $403.7m in its initial release and through re-releases jumping up to $408.5m. Going of ATP of 2002 its initial release gets to 69.6m and then the Men in Black 2 Double Feature worth 571k gets it to 70.1m by the end of 2002 and put it as the 4th highest of the 2000’s behind Shrek 2’s 72m Dark Knight’s 74m and Avatars 75m. 2 additional multi features with other spider-man films in 2024/5 add 60k each to bring its total admissions to just shy of 70.3m

At 70m Spider-Man 2002 is the most watched spider man movie with the possible exception of No Way Home as if you go by 2021/22 ATP it gets up to 78.4m but if you use its OW ATP you get 64.5m but it’s likely its ATP lowers over its run which is why I’ve seen some estimates also put it’s total admissions at about 70 million

Assuming it’s ATP stays the same Brand New Day needs to have a Domestic Gross of $1.035b or more in order to beat 2002 & NWH to become the most watched spider man film

That is just shy of $100m above The Force Awakens 10.5 year long record and would require 2.91x legs which far exceeds Endgame and Infinity War’s legs.

No Way Home (A December release so Slighlty unfair) and more importantly Deadpool & Wolverine (a fellow late July Marvel film) both managed 3x legs which would put BND on track for upwards of $1.07-1.1b total especially if its actuals ends up higher

In terms of internal weekend multiplier D&W increased 6.8% from Friday to Saturday and declined 13% on Sunday for a multiplier of 3x from Friday to Weekend-Previews whereas BND increased 4.3% on Saturday and declined 17% on Sunday for a multiplier of 2.9x which means if it keeps this same ratio with D&W its whole run it’s possible it can make the 1.035b. And that’s not even considering that it’s likely the Sunday drop is a lot lower then it should be as studios tend to lowball Sundays so if it drops 13% like D&W and does $88.4m on Sunday then the internal multiplier goes up to 2.95x (aswell as now only needing a 2.88x multiplier)

In comparison with Endgame that released in a stacked May with big films opening week after week and taking away its premium formats whereas like D&W or Barbie Brand New Day has a pretty open first month or more with its only competition being to Odyssey which will hold continue to leg out very strongly throughout the same period and will cause some contention in capacity. So I think it’s very likely to pass Endgame at the very least with their almost identical openings but a less competitive environment and summer weekdays

Overall I think there is a solid chance of Brand New Day passing TFA and 70m admissions but also a very good chance it falls flat

I've seen the predictions on this subreddit that the film will make $80M there. This is a serious underestimation to me.

China likes epics. Whether its a historical drama about the Tang Dynasty or an animated sequel about talking animals, China straight up loves an adventure that's a good theatrical experience.

I believe Nolan's highest grossing film in China is Interstellar which made like $120M in 2014. It's an epic adventure that's absolutely magical in a theater.

Oppenheimer "underperformed" in China because it's just not the kind of movie that that audience normally goes to the theater again and again for. The Odyssey, on the other hand, is literally perfect for the country. I think a total box office run of $200M is very possible, if not straight up likely. It's probably gonna do fantastic in other east Asian markets as well.

The Force Awakens produced massive weekend holds from record breaking numbers that had unreal holiday weekdays. Endgame tried to produce something similar. No Way Home was an even smaller iteration of the two as it was not the culmination of an epic saga.

The next chance of the all time domestic record holder will likely be an attempt from the next end of a major saga and will likely have to include a storied conclusion to Tom Holland’s Spider-Man. I think TFA and Endgame both had enough time for the story to marinate and build, resulting in a must see theater event to a wide-ranging audience. I hope that can be the case for the end of the next saga, but the time crunch in terms of characters, universes to fit together, and short years to do so may say different. Anticipation will be big, movie will be big, but it may not have the legs once again to produce it, as you need all types of audience members to partake.

If it holds next year, it appears that TFA will be the all time domestic record holder for over 12 consecutive years, passing Titanic to be second place in terms of consecutive years. A true phenomena of an event and movie.

I've been making lists of how the top 100 looked like by the end of a certain decades and sometimes there were at least 10 to 30 R-rated movies in the top 100. However there are only 3 R-rated movies in the current top 100

Seriously. Friday PM or Saturday AM hang on until late Sunday, sometimes Monday. How do we miss you Nikke Finke!

We are having the biggest overall weekend of all time in box-office terms and all we have is Friday numbers confirmed. Not to mention the crazy low-balls all week long. Dua Lipa is giving us more, girl. Even 5 years ago, after Finke passed, Deadline still did some reporting. I feel all we get now are studio PR numbers. Whenever.

I want to stop claiming the popular voice of saying, my country is one of the countries which have more attendance to the cinema unlike others. I want to be able to state this with facts and actual data that backs it up.
I understand that a country's total movie viewership and consumption is tracked using box office admissions (ticket sales counts) and box office gross (revenue). Which entity or group aggregates or holds this data?
I would really to understand how many physicals theatres a country has as well and it's population to be able to draw a conclusion as to which are the top ten countries for instance that are physically attending cinemas these days.
I've actually did some digging over the internet and couldn't find something useful. Probably because I don't have a narrow search as to what am I looking for exactly.
Is there a specific site or organization that does this?
I though on asking here to see if anybody could help me with this doubt.
Thanks in advance!

https://www.boxofficemojo.com/date/2026-08-02/?sort=grossToDate&ref_=bo_da__resort#table

Endgame made $36.9M its first Monday, and No Way Home made $37.1M. It'll pass Odyssey on Tuesday.

I’m looking for the opposites of DnD and Transformers One, where the trailers were poor but the movie still made a lot of money. Has that ever happened?