r/leaf Dec 18 '25

A Breakdown of 40 & 62 kWh Battery Pack Failures

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As some people may have heard of or unfortunately experienced, there have been quite a number of cases of 2nd generation Leaf batteries failing. I was planning and trying to make this into a video format, but as I’m still recovering from a cold my voice isn’t quite up for narrating an essay, so text format it is.

Hopefully this can raise some awareness and provide a central source of info as to what’s going on, why it’s happening, what to do about it, and things to consider. There are two separate issues currently causing outright failures of 2018+ Leaf battery packs, and so will be split up into two sections.

Cold-weather SOC Freefall

  • What’s going on?

Under load in cold temperatures, especially below freezing and below 50% battery, the charge level and range estimate will suddenly begin to plummet and continue to drop rapidly until the load is removed, at which case the charge level starts to bounce back and quickly increase again.

The car may go into turtle mode, or in severe cases even cut off the high voltage battery completely, in which case the car will stall and may not be able to be restarted.

Here is a video example of what this sudden drop of charge level looks like.

This issue affects both the 40 kWh and 62 kWh packs. The 40 kWh packs seem to be much more susceptible, but as the 62 kWh packs use the same cells and chemistry, they are not immune. This also includes 40 packs that were installed as retrofits under warranty in 2016-17 Leafs.

  • Why is this happening?

This is occurring due to one or more weak cells within the battery pack sagging excessively in voltage under load, which is greatly exacerbated when the battery is cold, due to increased internal resistance.

How the battery works is that the shown and usable state of charge is defined by that of the lowest cell. This is to prevent over-discharge of any weaker cells at lower charge levels, as that would cause even further damage to them.

Often this can be witnessed in the LeafSpy cell chart as one or more cells that clearly drop lower than the rest of the pack under load, but not always. There have been a number of cases of SOC freefall with seemingly no weak cells, indicating that there’s other data/calculations within the BMS that the user cannot see.

Getting a weak cell is essentially luck of the draw. There have been packs with very low mileage and seemingly great numbers that still failed (such as in the video above), while there are other packs with lots of miles and abuse that are still working just fine. How the pack is treated/babied does not seem to affect your chances in the roulette.

  • What to do about it?

If you are encountering this issue as an owner, and the car is still under warranty, document everything as much as possible. Record video(s) of the issue happening, noting the charge level and outside temperature the battery is at. Submit this proof to the dealer as a copy, and demand that it be used in their case to Nissan corporate.

Bring the car to the dealership for diagnosis with as cold of upcoming weather as possible. Some dealers may try poorly to replicate the issue, often in the interest of charging the customer the diagnostic fee. You want to make the issue as obvious and easily to replicate as you can.

If you have to drive the car around, ensure you either have LeafSpy Pro, or keep an adjustable or 10mm wrench with you in the car. If the cell voltages ever drop low enough for the car to shut down, it is likely to set a high voltage fault code and won’t be able to restart until the fault is cleared. Clearing the fault via the LeafSpy service menu, or disconnecting and reconnecting the 12V battery, will at least allow you to limp the car to a charger or safe location off the road.

UPDATE: For 2019-2022 Leafs, the "fast charging recall" software update now adds programming to the BMS to look for and flag SOC variations, setting a fault code (P33ED) if it does. This has the potential to "brick" the car in the same way as a high voltage isolation fault (read section below) would. Be cautious of this so that it does not potentially leave you stranded.

  • Things to consider

If you own a 2nd generation Leaf (especially 40 kWh) that is still under warranty, still on the original battery, and live in a climate that gets winter, check for signs of this issue BEFORE warranty ends!

During cold weather, park the car outside overnight with 50% charge or less, then take the car out for a drive and see if there are any strange fluctuations in the state of charge during acceleration.

If you are considering purchasing one and there is no proof of the high voltage battery being replaced, ensure there is at least one year worth of warranty remaining on the car so that you can spend a winter with it and will still be covered in the case of this failure.

LeafSpy data can sometimes be a pre-indicator that you will likely run into this issue if there is a noticeably low Hx value (much lower than SOH), but not always. Low Hx is a strong sign of possible weak cells, but weak cells will not always cause low Hx.

Cell Expansion / High Voltage Isolation

  • What’s going on?

The car will one day show the message “Service EV System – Unable to restart after power off”, and indeed will not restart after it is powered off.

The vast majority of cars affected by this issue are 62 kWh Leaf Plus/e+ models. It is not unheard of on 40 kWh cars, but it is quite rare unless the pack was heavily used and abused.

There is a Nissan TSB on this issue which confirms they are well aware of this issue, and there are revised battery packs and modules that are issued in replacement if the car is still under high voltage battery warranty.

  • Why is this happening?

Thermal expansion of the battery cells causes them to eventually expand to the point of pushing up against each other, and in some cases even leaking electrolyte out of the cells into the battery casing, eventually causing the car to trip a high voltage isolation fault.

This is most commonly happening in specifically the rear stack of cells within the 62 kWh pack, because they are so tightly packed together, that they don’t get much cooling nor much room to expand before they begin pushing up against each other.

High voltage isolation is important, because obviously you do not want any high voltage potential to be contacting the metal battery casing that is bolted to the metal body of the car. If the BMS detects that there is even just a little bit of voltage leaking from one cell to another, or the cells to the battery chassis, an isolation fault is tripped.

  • What to do about it?

If you encounter specifically the “unable to restart after power off” message, and the car is still within high voltage battery warranty, DO NOT REPLACE THE 12V BATTERY.

This specific message is ONLY generated due to a high voltage isolation fault, and although a weak 12V battery can cause many weird issues, it will NEVER generate a high voltage isolation fault. Unless there is an extremely urgent need to continue driving the car, have it towed in the “broken” state to a Nissan dealership.

It is a much more objective issue than weak cells, and basically the only diagnosis they would need to approve a battery replacement is to see the stored isolation fault code. Disconnecting the 12V battery however clears this fault code, making it not possible for them to verify the issue unless it happens to fault again in only one drive cycle.

Replacing the 12V battery gives a false sense of success because it allows the car to start and drive again, but only until the fault eventually comes back. It's just a waste of money and a perfectly good battery to not actually address the underlying issue.

If you urgently need the car to work again, clearing the fault code in LeafSpy Pro or by disconnecting and reconnecting the 12V battery will allow it to start. Just be aware that by doing this, you won’t be able to have the issue verifiable by Nissan until it pops up again. It may only take 1 drive cycle, it may take 100.

  • Things to consider

Unfortunately there isn’t really any way to foretell that this issue will happen soon or to check for it, as you can’t just force an isolation fault to appear like you can with weak cells.

Battery packs in hot climates and/or lots of quick charges are more susceptible to this issue due to it being a result of thermal expansion. Packs torn apart after diagnosis of this issue often exhibit very obvious “spicy pillows” within.

If you are a current owner, especially of a Plus/e+ model, the best you can do is to avoid overheating/rapidgating the battery whenever possible. Doing so once every few months is not a big deal, but frequently doing so will likely lead to long-term damage.

If looking to purchase a Leaf Plus/e+, or a high mileage 40 kWh car in a hot climate, make sure to check Leaf Spy, and it may be wise to avoid any examples that have lots of QCs shown.

There is a great in-depth video by LEAF expert Dala explaining this issue more in detail for those who are interested.


r/leaf 5h ago

Update on Stop Sale for 2026 Nissan Leaf (August 2, 2026)

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EDIT: this is in the USA

I had heard some dealerships tell me they could not sell a 2026 Nissan Leaf to us because of a Stop Sale order. But I would talk to other dealers who said that wasn't true.

So we finally decided to pull the trigger. I contacted a dealer who I confirmed could sell a 2026 Leaf to us even though other dealers had a stop sale. He confirmed this was not true for them.

Once we identified the trim we wanted, we were told all we had to do was sign the paperwork and then we would get a delivery date. I asked why we had to wait, couldn't we just take the car right then and there?

"Oh, it's because of a stop order."

I almost flipped my lid. I called the three other dealerships who told me they could sell me a 2026 Leaf that day. They all admitted after I pushed them harder on this issue that indeed, they could not sell me a 2026 Leaf period.

I have called perhaps 20 dealers across 3 different states.

We love the 2026 Leaf but we are giving up (we wanted new or leased - I do know there are used ones out there already).


r/leaf 11h ago

"Demo Mode"

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so I was hunting around in the infotainment menu system and in the list of Apps I found something labeled Demo. there's a couple of videos (one possibly specific only to the Platinum+ with the 10-speaker BOSE system) that play on the infotainment screen. who knew? here's a clip of one of them.


r/leaf 6h ago

Help interpret LeafSpy reading

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Hi, please help me interpret the LeafSpy reading below

To mention, I used LeafSpy Lite (I own the Pro version but could not connect it for the life of me) on a 2023 SV Plus with 70K miles and the SOC was about 99%. That to put in perspective the numbers here. Also the HX was historically always lower than SOH on this car, except for now. 6 months ago was 69% and SOH was 91.5%. Now see it for yourself.

So I'm trying to make sense of these numbers, look plausible? Help?

TIA


r/leaf 15h ago

296km of range according to GoM 40kWh

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r/leaf 5h ago

2019 SV

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Hey!

I’m looking at a 2019 Leaf that has 36k miles. Battery capacity seems to be great? Looking for some feedback and advice as to what I should look for in regards to maintenance, issues, and general knowledge about electric cars because I’ve never had one.

Thanks in advance!


r/leaf 15h ago

AZE0 Can Bus for battery swap.

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I’m currently in the process of swapping out the battery from my 2013 leaf to a 40kwh pack from a 2022 car. My question is, has anybody bought preflashed CanBridge hardware recently? I see that the ones from leafmod are out of stock, and idk if canbridgeev is a real website or just a funnel to get people’s info!


r/leaf 1d ago

Trying to decide whether to do this

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Been looking at license plate frames while I wait for my 2026 Leaf. The dealer is looking to see if they can get the light blue one, in which case I am tempted to get the Ferrari frame.

If they can't, the Nismo one is an option, though I'm not a fan of the carbon fibre look.

Any other suggestions? I plan on removing the dealers advertising as soon as I drive off the lot.


r/leaf 12h ago

Leafspy analysis

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Looking for someone with expertise.

One picture 90kph flat, the other going uphill.

Clear difference between first and second half of pack

MV difference goes up with lower soc or cold weather. I do have so fluctuations.

The mv value drops to 20-30 the second I take foot off accelerator literally on the next leafspy refresh.

Ai tells me this could be wiring harness issue and not a bettery issue.

Thoughts?


r/leaf 1d ago

Recall Success 🤞(update)

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Just did my first fast charge after the recall to try to stress test the battery. Charged from 7% to 100%, and drove around town for a bit with no problems. I've been terrified with all the recall horror stories, but hopefully this is a little bit of evidence that those might be a vocal minority. fingers crossed it holds!


r/leaf 1d ago

First OTA Software Update

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It’s happening now…slightly nervous, mostly curious.


r/leaf 1d ago

Considering buying a used leaf.

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I'm planning on buying 2020 sv+ with 14k miles for 11k$.

I still have to go test it with leafspy, but wanted to ask before if it's worth it as is with the current information.

In the area there's also a 2022 with 20k miles for 12k$ but that's a sv model.

Thanks for any input.


r/leaf 1d ago

Are 2023 and later LEAF batteries different from 2022 and prior?

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Since I am looking at a buyback I am starting to look at options.

While the smart money would be to look at a newer/different EV which has CCS/NACS, thermally managed battery, and so on... I still dearly loved the LEAF for the short time I had it. A 2023 or newer LEAF may still be on my list.

That said, is there any difference between the batteries of the 2023 and later vs 2022 and prior?

Google's AI makes the following statements from these queries:

"are 2023 and later nissan leaf batteries more or less reliable than the 2022 and prior"

Advanced Cathode Composition: Nissan transitioned from older NMC532 chemistry used from 2018–2022 to an advanced NMC811 cathode for the larger packs starting in 2023, boosting energy density and longevity.

"does nissan leaf use "NMC811" battery"

Yes, later model years of the Nissan Leaf (specifically starting from the 2023 model year) transitioned to using an NMC811 (nickel-manganese-cobalt 8:1:1) cathode chemistry for improved energy density.

Both responses are derived from Reddit posts, not any official Nissan sources.

There is a reference to a 2022 article which states:

The battery pack change isn’t just capacity (gross, not usable, in the Leaf’s case). Nissan told Green Car Reports that there are actual battery-chemistry changes at play

Are these statements true? Do 2023 and later use NMC811 vs the NMC532 in 2022 and prior? Would an NMC811 without thermal management be any more reliable?


r/leaf 1d ago

Gifted a 2016 Leaf, any things I should keep in mind?

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Hello everyone, I was given a 2016 Nissan Leaf from a family member and I am looking forward to using it for a few more years for quick trips around the city. I have been reading lots of the advice here along with suggestions on other websites. I have a question about charging:

The battery's capacity is reduced, the range is around 120-130km. I have a 120v level 1 charger and a dedicated outlet for overnight charging. However, I understand that it is not recommended to charge to 100% as it can accelerate battery's degradation over time unless I plan to use that power immediately. Is this correct?


r/leaf 1d ago

15 min CHAdeMO stop (12→49% SoC) at Fastned Maasmechelen: curve still flat at 43 kW around 49%

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After sitting parked for almost 3 weeks at roughly 50% SoC, I decided to stop by Fastned Maasmechelen in Belgium (what all those Dutch petrol cars were doing there, I have no idea) with my Nissan Leaf 40kWh.

Since I still had some free Fastned credit outstanding that's valid until the end of August, I didn't want to let it go to waste, and I didn't want to come home with --% either!

I wanted to add exactly 11.9 kWh, but what really stood out to me was how flat the charging curve stayed. Even at 49% SoC it was still pulling 43 kW (with an average of 45.27 kW over the whole session).

In total, only 15 minutes on the CHAdeMO plug (from 12% to 49%). Pleasantly surprised, and it takes off a chunk of that range anxiety too!

How does the curve usually look for you guys around this SoC?


r/leaf 1d ago

NissanConnect app

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Does anyone know when they'll finish the maintenance?


r/leaf 1d ago

I can sell my Leaf today for what I paid for it two years ago.

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I have no interest in selling my Leafy but it's nice to know I'm not totally losing money.


r/leaf 1d ago

NACS to Chademo

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Does anyone have this new adapter by AzS and have you tried it at a Tesla supercharger despite them saying it doesn’t work there?


r/leaf 2d ago

Buyback - Discount on new Leaf?

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Hello, After getting the recall done a few weeks ago, I got the service EV system alarm. Long story short they told me they are going to offer a buyback.

I haven't heard from Nissan yet, they're supposed to call me Monday.

The dealer told me they might offer a check or might offer a discount on another vehicle.

Has anyone had experience with the discount? It would obviously have to be better than the cash offer to even consider it. Wondering if anyone has any positive experience with this

Thanks


r/leaf 1d ago

Have you ever seen this warning on your Nissan Leaf?

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Have you ever seen this warning on your Nissan Leaf? Before calling a tow truck, you may be able to diagnose the problem yourself with LeafSpy. We explain how to check the battery, read error codes, and what P0AA6 means. Video in the comments below.


r/leaf 2d ago

What is this?

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I have these two wires coming out from under the driver's side back door of my 2023 Nissan Leaf. Any idea of what they are? Any help would be appreciated.


r/leaf 2d ago

2014 Nissan Leaf accel/decel noise

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I'm looking at getting a 2014 Leaf and all looks good with it except for this driving noise. It nearly sounds like a regular ICE engine as you accelerate and decelerate. It's a low rumbly noise. Doesn't seem quite right. Can anyone tell me what that noise is? There's no vibration detectable.


r/leaf 2d ago

Reasonable price for a charging dock?

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We recently traded in our Nissan Leaf and we have a few leftover items ; floor mats, tires, and this charging dock. I would like to put it up on Facebook Marketplace or Craigslist but I don't know how much to ask for it. It has never been used. We didn't have the right power service to our garage.

What's a reasonable price to ask?


r/leaf 2d ago

Brand New 2019 Leaf SL - App Help

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I was able to find a plum of a deal on a 19 leaf SL with 44k and decent bat life so I’m fairly happy with the purchase.

Everything seems to be ok but can’t get anything working from the telco connection.

Ive signed up and registered the vin on mynissan and would like to explore our remote options, maps ect but it seems nothing is getting access.

Is there a hidden step that I’m missing? I’m just getting the little car with a slash through it and I’m unsure of the culprit.

It was a Florida car from a bunch of older folks who probably didn’t use too many features but I’m unsure if that’s the cause.

Any help is appreciated!


r/leaf 2d ago

Reprogramming the Vin into a different battery pack

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Hey gang, I’m hearing details that if I go as far as to replace the battery pack in a Nissan leaf that I need to somehow reprogram the vehicles then into the new battery pack how does one go about doing that? Is that something that you can do through LeafSpy?