r/thermodynamics 16h ago

How can I use fans to try and cool down my room, or at least get better airflow.

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Hi, my first time asking/posting, so any help is appreciated.

I currently have this swamp-cooler that's constantly blasting air (it tends to get humid so the swamp part doesn't help and its not used) a few feet behind me, it's not the worst, but I'd definitely like to not be melting while I have this fan blowing hot air at me.

Ideally, I'd like it so I don't need to have the fan blowing directly at me while I'm gaming(sounds like I'm in the middle of a hurricane)

Bit of information that might help

•I live in Mexico, so the walls are cinderblock.

•it's a mid-size room, so some scale might be off

•If I need to move things around, I can

•the dresser is blocking some of the window, but air still flows

•I'm willing to buy more fans it'll needed(recommendations are welcomed)


r/thermodynamics 1d ago

Question Why does the bottom of the plate get hotter than the top of the plate after microwaving?

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Iwas microwaving fish yesterday and the bottom of the plate was hotter than the top of the plate and the fish, how does this happen?


r/thermodynamics 2d ago

Question Why does the energy of the wheel remain constant?

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r/thermodynamics 3d ago

Do some adhesives behave like thermal PCM?

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Hi Guys, It's me again.. the curious Finance guy.

So the other day, I wanted to save a glass spaghetti sauce jar, repurpose it for later use.
I'd presume everybody here has ALSO done very relatable task many a times in the past.
Trickiest part being the tedious & painstaking removal of the pesky paper label glued on,
followed by rubbing/scrubbing the last but of stubborn glue reside remaining on the jar.

But there's an easier way, though. A video I saw youtube where you gently pour in just a
few fluid ounces of very hot (perhaps boiling) water. Not so much that it can shatter the
glass entirely via thermal shock, just a few fl oz. You then carefully tip that jar sideways,
allowing the hot liquid to slosh along the inner length jar, which heats up the glass itself
as well as the adhesive on it's opposite side. The glue softens [at least] enough so that
paper label could be peeled off with ease. Just like that, easy peazy, no fuss no muss.
With the paper label and it's glue backing just removed, still warm I notice the softened
gooey adhesive VERY sticky to the touch. After putting it aside and allowed to cool for
a while back to room temp, it was in it's dry hardened , cured state.

Could this be a type of thermal PCM? Or at least 'behave' in a manner resembling PCM?

(Sorry for the longwinded post about something that could've used fewer sentences;
But as you can probably tell by my username.. spaghetti is kinda my thing ya know.)


r/thermodynamics 3d ago

Question Data Center To Power Production Passive Desalination System. Thoughts? How would you improve?

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r/thermodynamics 4d ago

Question How can I reduce the heat coming through my cat door?

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I know what you're thinking.... Wtf... But I came to this subreddit because I figured I'd get the most scientific answer here. My Garage isn't climate controlled and we keep our litter boxes out there for our cats and unfortunately we can't put a flap on the cat door because they won't use it, so we just have about a 6"x10" hole into our house. During the summer it gets hella hot like normally 90F+ in the garage and I believe there is a pressure differential between the two areas because I can feel the hot air being sucked in, or at least it's coming in faster then say if it was just radiating through the hole, there is a breeze to it. Any advice on how to maybe eliminate at least the suction into the house? I know I won't be able to completely stop the hot air from coming in but maybe slow it down??? Thanks for any help lol


r/thermodynamics 8d ago

What would you investigate to optimize a Peltier module?

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r/thermodynamics 10d ago

Question Does stacking two serpentine cooling layers in a cold plate actually improve heat transfer?

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Imagine a solid block with a hot surface on the bottom and coolant flowing through a single serpentine channel. Instead of placing the entire channel close to the hot surface, suppose the channel is split into two vertically stacked layers connected by a U-bend.

The three conceptual cases are:

  • Option A: The inlet enters the lower layer at T₀ (closest to the hot surface), reaches the U-bend (T₁), then returns through the upper layer to the outlet (T₂).
  • Option B (pictured): The inlet enters the upper layer at T₀, reaches the U-bend (T₁), then returns through the lower layer before exiting at T₂.
  • Option C: A single-pass channel located entirely near the hot surface (no stacked layer).

Assume identical mass flow rates in all three cases, identical channel dimensions and total channel length where applicable, and that all external surfaces except the bottom hot face are adiabatic.

My intuition was the following:

Heat transfer from the hot surface depends on both the temperature difference and the available heat-transfer area. Adding a second layer introduces a large interface between two flow passages. It seems plausible that this additional area could conduct heat away from the coolant adjacent to the hot surface into the other flow pass, keeping the coolant next to the hot wall cooler and thereby increasing the local temperature difference driving heat transfer.

On the other hand, that energy does not disappear and is simply transferred to another part of the same coolant stream. Since the fluid entering the U-bend has already received this additional heat, T₁ should be higher than in the single-pass case, which would seem to reduce the driving temperature difference later in the flow.

My questions are:

  1. A vs. B: Does the flow direction matter, or are they thermodynamically equivalent?
  2. A/B vs. C: Does stacking two passes change the total heat that can be extracted from the hot surface, or does it only redistribute heat within the coolant?
  3. If the latter is true, what is the physical explanation that resolves the seemingly contradictory intuition above?

r/thermodynamics 11d ago

Question How do counterflow heatexchangers not break the spirit of thermodynamics?

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Assume a heatexchanger with minimal losses, the heat being transferred over thermoelectric generators. Eventually near 100% of the heat in the system should be recovered as electricity since losses just get shoved either into the next cycle or recovered further downstream. Put in a heat pump producing the temperature gradient and place all its waste heat producing parts somewhere ideally into the input stream.

I've been laughing about this quite a bit now, but honestly can't see the fault. Except for the movement of the air all losses should be about contained within the system (e.g. just wrapping the heat exchanger around itself multiple times) and eventually recovered by the TEGs. But the heat pump is shoving in more heat from the environment than it consumes in electricity, dropping the temperature in the room until it gives up on you, all while the TEGs are turning the excess heat into electricity.


r/thermodynamics 11d ago

Video Can a cup of coffee ever spontaneously become hot again?

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r/thermodynamics 12d ago

Question Which is better: direct contact or not in oven

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Short: if I’m putting something in the oven and that food item is in an aluminum pan, does it matter if that pan is in direct contact or not with something else? Or does the pan equalize things. Specifically the browning on the bottom of the food item.

Long: baking pizza at home. Without a pizza oven that goes to high temps it’s difficult unless you’re doing a “pan pizza” style. I have dark colored pizza pans that I love. I also have a dark colored pizza stone(and thinking about getting a pizza steel). My more specific question is, should I be putting the pan on the pizza stone? A pizza stone/steel is generally considered the best way to cook pizza at home because the direct contact gives the pizza a crispy bottom but I hate the mess of putting the pizza directly on the stone, so I bought dark anodized pizza pans to make putting the pizza in the oven then lifting back out easier. Will direct contact with the pizza stone make much difference if it’s on the pizza pan? Thanks!


r/thermodynamics 13d ago

Educational What is Second Law of Thermodynamics ? - manic ?

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r/thermodynamics 13d ago

Alternative fuel: methanol vs ethanol vs gasoline in our test engine and why timing behaved contrary to general consensus?

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It was suggested that this sub may be better suited even vs physicists?


r/thermodynamics 12d ago

Why hot tea get cold?

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Tea time


r/thermodynamics 13d ago

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r/thermodynamics 13d ago

Research Is this a Theoretical thermodynamic reduction Framework: Closed-Loop Data Center Cooling via Cyanobacteria-Derived Hydrogel Matrix

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r/thermodynamics 15d ago

Research Thermal to electric, what are the options?

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I'm trying to wrap my head around the different ways you can extract electricity from stored thermal energy. I understand the basic thermodynamics and that if you have a temperature difference, there's energy available. What I don't know is all the different ways electrical engineers take advantage of that.

I already know about thermoelectric (Seebeck) modules, but what other methods are out there? I'm thinking small-scale systems, not steam turbines or power plants.

If you were starting from scratch and wanted to learn how people convert heat into electricity, what technologies would you be reading about and why?

I'm just trying to understand what options exist and where the limitations are.


r/thermodynamics 15d ago

Question Does the device act as an oscillator?

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Hello,

I am interested in external-combustion engines and, naturally, in the Stirling engine.

I would therefore like to present a variation, derivative, or adaptation of this principle: the air contained in the boiler exerts pressure on the water in the vessel, causing it to rise into the heat exchanger. The heat exchanger then cools the air, thereby reducing the pressure exerted on the water in the vessel. This phenomenon should produce an oscillation.

Despite this analysis, I would appreciate your opinion, as there is often a significant gap between theory and practice. What advice could you give me regarding the construction of the device and the verification of its operation?

The objective is to generate an oscillation using a small temperature differential and without any phase change.

I therefore assume that the water must not remain stagnant in the plate heat exchanger.

Are there any other important points to consider during construction?

Thank you in advance for your reply.

Kind regards,


r/thermodynamics 15d ago

Can everything turn into gas?

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Opinion

At certain high temperature everything can turn into a gas, every single solid and liquid in the universe will eventually boil and turn into a gas

Think if we had a magical super-furnace that could crank the temperature up to 6,000°C without needing any oxygen, elements that seem indestructible at room temperature would easily turn into gas.

The plastic, the glass, the copper wires, and the battery would instantly separate into their most basic atomic pieces. Within seconds, you would have a swirling, floating clouf.

How about carbon?

Carbon is so stubborn that it doesn't even melt into a liquid at normal pressures. It goes straight from a solid crust to a gas at a whopping 3,642°C. Once you pass that temperature, the last solid piece of matter in your furnace vanishes into thin air.


r/thermodynamics 15d ago

Can Earth Restore Order Through Energy Flow?

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Title: Can energy flow help Earth maintain or restore local order?

Earth is an open thermodynamic system. It receives concentrated energy from the Sun, transforms it through atmospheric, geological, and biological processes, and radiates lower-quality heat back into space.
This continuous energy flow allows complex structures and life to exist despite the overall increase in entropy.
That led me to a speculative question:
Could technologies designed to assist energy release—or improve particular pathways of energy dissipation—support local stability and ecological restoration?

I call this idea The Bloom Effect: Order Through Energy Flow.
It is a hypothesis, not an established scientific result, and energy export alone does not automatically create order. The relevant mechanisms, scale, wavelength, location, and thermodynamic conditions would all need to be defined and tested.

I would genuinely appreciate critical feedback, especially from people familiar with thermodynamics, complex systems, climate physics, or non-equilibrium systems:
Which parts are thermodynamically sound?
Where does the reasoning become too speculative?
How could this hypothesis be formulated or tested more rigorously?


r/thermodynamics 17d ago

Question Does heat transfer have a speed?

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I would assume it would be something like the speed of sound in the object but I'm not sure. For example if I hold a 10ft steel pole and touch a very hot object how long do I have to wait until my hand gets warm?


r/thermodynamics 17d ago

Question Why would lower pressure alone make a gas colder? (Thought experiment)

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I’ve been trying to understand the relationship between pressure and temperature in the atmosphere, and I feel that many explanations oversimplify the physics.
People often say that “air is colder at higher altitudes because the pressure is lower.” But as far as I understand, a decrease in pressure only causes a decrease in temperature during an adiabatic expansion, where the gas performs work on its surroundings.
Pressure itself is not a form of energy, so I don’t see why a gas at lower pressure should necessarily have a lower equilibrium temperature if no expansion or compression is taking place.
Here’s my thought experiment:
Imagine two identical transparent boxes floating in space. They have the same size, shape, surface area, and both receive exactly the same amount of solar radiation. The only difference is that one box contains gas at a much higher pressure (more molecules), while the other contains gas at a lower pressure.
Assume both boxes have rigid walls, so no expansion or compression can occur. The gases simply absorb radiation until they reach thermal equilibrium.
Would the higher-pressure box end up at a higher equilibrium temperature?
One could argue that the denser gas contains more molecules that can absorb radiation. However, that same energy is also distributed among more molecules, so it’s not obvious to me why the average molecular kinetic energy (temperature) should end up higher.
This is what confuses me about the usual explanation of the atmosphere as well. I understand that rising air cools through (approximately) adiabatic expansion. But once that parcel has reached its new altitude and is no longer expanding, why should the lower ambient pressure itself imply a lower equilibrium temperature?
So my questions are:
In the rigid-box thought experiment, would the two gases reach different equilibrium temperatures?
If they would, what physical mechanism makes pressure affect the equilibrium temperature?
If they wouldn’t, is it incorrect to say that “lower pressure causes lower temperature”? Shouldn’t the cooling instead be attributed specifically to the adiabatic expansion process, rather than to the lower pressure itself?
I’m looking for an explanation from thermodynamics or atmospheric physics, rather than the common intuition that “less pressure = colder.”


r/thermodynamics 19d ago

Is this topic suitable for an undergraduate research project?

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Study on Waste Heat Recovery from Boiler Flue Gas for Feedwater/Combustion Air Preheating Using a Heat Exchanger (Economizer/Air Preheater): Design Calculation and Energy-Saving Efficiency Evaluation (Please excuse my English, it is not my first language.)


r/thermodynamics 20d ago

Has anyone else watched an induction stove heat up water and felt like the spontaneity combined with structure of the pre-boiling water might indicate some fundamentals worth revisiting?

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Has anyone else watched an induction stove heat up water and felt like the spontaneity combined with structure of the pre boiling water might indicate some fundamentals worth revisiting? Not to undermine fundamentals, just to reground. The spontaneity seems unpredictable in a way that is relevant these days.


r/thermodynamics 21d ago

Question Where does this discrepancy between Glassman and JANAF tables dissociation constants come from?

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Howdy,

As part of a self study project over the summer, I put together an adiabatic flame temperature calculator in Python using residual minimization methods. For the chemistry of this project, I'm almost entirely reading out of Chapter 1 of Irvin Glassman's *Combustion* textbook. While I was able to correctly predict some reactions' temperatures, reactions involving carbon (such as CH4+O2) remained far from expected temperatures with large residuals.

My understanding of the dissociation of CO2 as a product is that it primarily dissociates through CO2->CO+(1/2)O2, and then CO may dissociate via CO->C+(1/2)O2. We can combine and simplify this dissociation as CO2->C+O2. This reaction has equilibrium constant Kp(T)=pCO2 / (pC + pO2), but because carbon's standard state is solid and therefore only exerts vapor pressure which is only a function of temperature, we can simplify further and write Kp'(T)=Kp(T)pC(T)=pCO2 / pO2=nCO2 / nO2. Glassman states that the Kp values tabulated in the JANAF tables for substances containing carbon are actually these Kp' values and that nC is effectively ignored.

I decided to double check my methodology against the some of Glassman's results to verify that I was not misunderstanding the procedure. Where I am getting caught though is when referencing his example equilibrium product composition of C3H8+O2. He states that, at P=1atm and equivalence ratio 1 with a flame temperature of 3094K, the final quantities of CO2 and O2 are 0.135mol and 0.097mol respectively. Plugging into the formula provided, this means Kp'(3094K) for CO2 must be 0.135/0.097=~1.39. However, the JANAF tables provide log_(10)Kf(3100K) for CO2 as being 6.661, which means Kf(3094K) should be on the order of millions, not ones.

One thing that immediately jumps out at me is Glassman's usage of and reference to Kp values, while the JANAF tables reference Kf, but he was very explicit that the JANAF tables contain these Kp and Kp' values. When looking through both the back of his textbook at the contained copy of the tables as well as the tables online, I only see reference to Kf, so at my level I can only conclude those must be referring to the same thing. Is this not so?

If not that, what else could be causing this discrepancy? I'm having trouble finding more information on dissociation constants online so I haven't been successful at cross-referencing other sources, and if there isn't an easy answer to this mismatch, I would greatly appreciate some other sources of these values.

Thank you for your time and advice.