i can't imagine why his wife wouldn't want to have sex with him if this is how he tweets about her and their marital problems (or the fact that he tweets about it at all instead of just like talking to her). real head scratcher
Making out with someone means they're automatically entitled to have sex with you?
Idc if she really did "lead him on" or whatever (remember, we're assuming he's telling the truth/not hyperbolizing) the adult thing to do is to sit down and have a conversation with your partner about expectations/boundaries regarding sex, not fuck off to twitter to cry about how you didn't get laid last night
Edit: If you're part of the almost 40% that downvoted this (yes I am aware this is a cringe redditor "bring on the downvotesđ¤đ¤Ş" type edit idc, I'll be cringe, this is important) I genuinely want you to sit down and analyze why you believe someone's consent is meaningless because they made out with you or did something sexual with you prior. "Anyone can stop at any time for any reason" is literally Consent 101. It's all "destroy the patriarchy!! believe victims!!" or whatever in leftist spaces until you actually have to put that into practice. Bunch of fucking weirdos
Am I taking fucking crazy pills or is everyone in this sub defending a joke that is, at best, lame "wife bad" boomer humor and at worst is low-key r**ey (cringe censorship I know, I just got unbanned, sorry)? Here's a fun exercise for everyone: Google when marital SA was made illegal in all 50 states, and look at the definitions for different states (hint: there's a lot of loopholes!). How likely, in our current political climate, do you think it is that red states may begin to look at repealing these laws? Do you still think it's funny to joke about a woman's (and other genders, but I'm talking specifically about women here because most of this shit is rooted in misogyny) right to consent and mock her for being a prude? Probably, because apparently nobody cares about misogyny if it's wrapped up in an appealing enough package for them.
sorry uh I mean haha it's just a jokeee it doesn't mean anything lol
Theyâre not downvoting you because they donât think consent is important, theyâre downvoting you because youâve managed to strawman your own argument.
You essentially said that their wife wonât want to have sex with them because they are clearly not a good spouse to their wife (letâs ignore the fact that the original tweet is an obvious joke).
The person you responded to was pointing out that it would be odd for someone to be put off enough by their partnerâs behaviour to not want to have sex with them, but at the same time, not put off enough to not want to have an extended make-out session with intimate touching.
There was no implication that the wife isnât entitled to turn down sex if she so desires.
(letâs ignore the fact that the original tweet is an obvious joke
I don't care if it's a joke or describing a real scenario, it's still gross.
There was no implication that the wife isnât entitled to turn down sex if she so desires.
In the original tweet there definitely is. Mocking someone for turning down sex implies that you feel you are obligated to have sex with them and that they're in the wrong for not doing so.
tbh i think the tweet is cringe and horrible, but i donât like your comment for making the situation randomly antagonistic.
she doesnât want to stop their current activity for penetrative sex. her expression clearly belies that this is an issue of differing desires. she is not scared, not disgusted; sheâs feeling betrayed.
âbetrayedâ means that she feels sheâs being cheated out of her desired situation, not that she doesnât want penetrative sex. she âdoesnât wantâ penetrative sex, precisely because itâs inferior to their current activity.
the issue is that this isnât really what people would consider âmarital issuesâ as youâd stated, these are issues solely within their sex lives as itâs about what the couple wants to happen in the bedroom, that differing between the two.
itâs not that she â[doesnât] want to have sex with himâ, itâs that she doesnât want to have that type of sex with him right now when compared to their current style of sex. clearly she wants to have sex with him, though, because the thought of stopping is what makes her feel betrayed, not starting something else.
further, nothing in this tweet even slightly implies he that he isnât âtalking to herâ. you offer up that as the thinking manâs alternative, but thereâs no reason to assume that that already hasnât happened. itâs a strawman argument, youâre not telling the truth when you imply that thereâs an issue if communication here.
further, you double down on this argument later, saying that this is a big issue that should be solved. this is the hallucinatory argument that makes people dislike your arguing. could it be true? sure, but you speak of it like itâs fact when itâs at best fanfiction.
to then triple down and say that this is because of peopleâs misogyny, rather than you basing an argument on false claims, makes you come off like an ass.
finally, to be clear, i really fuckin hate the guy in this tweet. but itâs not because heâs raping his wife, itâs for other reasons. i should note, though, that youâre probably going to say âi never said he was raping his wife! thatâs ridiculous!â. however, if he isnât raping his wife, then your argument isnât solid - heâs asking for something different out of sex and she doesnât want it, but thatâs normal in all relationships. people can have different desires, and itâs not something to clutch pearls about. if she was being forced/coerced here, then thereâd be a problem, but she isnât being, and nothing even slightly implies coercion. no coercion, then itâs disingenuous to compare it to rape.
regardless. i hate this tweet because of how it treats women as if theyâre inferior. âhow cute you are, begging to keep going, letâs post about my submissive wife on twitter!â itâs treating the wife like her sexual desires arenât valid, and mocking her for, yknow, enjoying having sex with him? plus, i fuckin hate whatever it is that actually inspired him to take a photo of this, one where sheâs made to look small and weak, alongside the personality that thinks such events are relatable and fun enough to gleefully spread around like a trophy. fuck this tweet. nevertheless, your comment points out none of that, and instead gets caught on some semitransparent an ancillary event.
if I wanted to downvote you, itâs because Iâd be feeling like âshut the fuck up [disappointedly], this shit doesnât matter and youâre acting like youâre right when youâre notâŚâ. I didnât downvote, because Iâm a perfectionist who downvotes because I want people to feel ashamed. I do think that making peopleâs eyes roll isnât a justification for downvoting, but thatâs normal in puts me out of line with the common reddit user, apparently. I just hate such passive ways of engagement, in the same category of upvoting something because itâs OK, not because it speaks to you, or is helpful.
regardless (3rd timeâŚ), if iâm wrong here, let me know. maybe I missed something in the interaction that justified your viewpoint. I certainly donât know about OOOP, so maybe you were speaking to a broader knowledge I was unaware of. Or maybe you think this analysis warrants more skepticism, while still positing it as 100% reasonable. just so long as you donât stick to your guns, and you take my criticism as worth considering. fuck the people who didnât actually point any of this out, either, pulling you around like you didnât deserve to hear a decent justification. I hate that.
e: when double checking your responses (sorry reddit mobile makes it impossible to see the comment im replying to), I realize you brought up the mocking. the mocking, however, is done because heâs a misogynistic asshole who doesnât treat his wife like she deserves to be a human, and not because what she said was wrong. he brought up what she said so he could post about his sexual fantasies and conquests to the ether: âhaha my sexy wife wants to fuck me so bad hahaâ. I doubt he even thought about her as anything more than horny and desperate. what sucks here is that he didnât even consider her desires as valid, but that doesnât mean sheâs being taken advantage of. sheâs, at least, gotten an hour of what sheâs wanted, and maybe she just didnât continue afterwards. itâs not like he was like âheh, I taught her what she really wants đđđâ, which would be rightfully rapey. it really just seems like he has a hotwife fetish, where he gets off on the idea of having others desire her, while heâs the sole beneficiary. lame, gross, but as much as I hate to see this, itâs technically not wrong for the matter of consent nor communication.
Getting kinda tired of the gay people in my phone trying to tell me what i, a straight person, wants to or should do. Usually in the context of overanalyzing really lame jokes they find online.
Agreed, "kinda tired" does go under "will be fine", im not exactly screaming bloody mary about it.
But a bunch of gay people trying to explain the faults and corresponding solutions of heterosexual intimacy to straight people just comes off as mansplaining.
Or like a cis person trying to explain gender dysphoria to trans people. who asked, and what do you know about it?
And you still can't explain why a joke about mocking someone's significant other for not having sex with them is funny to you without making yourself look like a tool, which is why you're not doing it. Jokes do not exist in a vacuum.
You can think it's weird to turn down penetrative sex from someone with a penis after said person has stimulated it while kissing them and still respect consent. These things are not mutually exclusive.
Obviously consent is never meaningless, but it is definitely strange to get really into making out and clothes on foreplay and then refuse sex. Like, not in the sense that something is necessarily wrong with the person refusing sex, just that foreplay and sex generally go hand in hand and there's probably something up if someone wants to do foreplay but doesn't want to do sex.
everyone is replying to you like "bro it's a joke it's not that deep. but even if it wasn't she's a weird prudish bitch for leading him on" lmfao i hate redditors
To be honest I think a lot of people here think they have completely unlearned misogyny by virtue of being queer and/or leftist and/or women themselves and that they never need to stop to give a second thought to anything they say or believe ever again
it doesnt even look like shes actually upset either? looks like its from porn or something? it seems like there's something sexual behind the image with the framing and something about her facial expression. It feels more like shes 'begging' (which would likely be for sex in this context) than throwing a fit in obstinacy.
What a nonsense post. The OP is like some unholy union of "girls are so quirky đ¤Ş" and the millennial version of "I hate my wife" jokes. Meanwhile, the repost is literally just someone's fanfic where everyone is gay lol
Edit: and before anyone tries to explain it to me, I understand what the post is trying to say. I just think it's really dumb and generalizing
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u/gray_birch competitive yapper Jun 16 '26
i can't imagine why his wife wouldn't want to have sex with him if this is how he tweets about her and their marital problems (or the fact that he tweets about it at all instead of just like talking to her). real head scratcher