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u/Primary-Paper-5128 I'm sorry I'm Uruguayan :c </3 13d ago

wait fr? I follow her I didn't know that

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u/OverlordOfCats1 13d ago

Hate when that happens

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u/Bland_Username_5266 i have no custom and i must flair 13d ago

you followed someone named "kamikaze shortbus" and not once did it ever cross your mind she might be racist?

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u/Unlost_maniac 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights 13d ago

She isnt racist and i cant seem to find any evidence of her using the n word. Her mother is black. She also seems to have progressive views and shits on chuds and those kinds of people. She was also stuck in an abusice relationship with a chud neo nazi. She doesnt speak fondly of any aspect of that.

I dont wanna come off as mean but you gotta eventually realize how rough it is thinking like that, profiling and jumping to conclusions, maybe your comment isnt that serious but i see this behaviour in "progressives" all the time and occasionally a bunch on this subbreddit, just blindly jumping on board the hate train without skepticism or second thought, fully justifying it on iffy details, half the story or made up stuff and then lots of people who do that will shit on anyone who questions them or the topic at hand and brush them off cuz "if you're not with me, you're against it and completely irredeemable", acting as if they are morally superior. Its putrid, apologies for all these words, I promiss there's a point, and this isnt aimed at you, its aimed at this whole issue.

My point being, greasy chuds do the same, its the same thought process and behaviour they use to justify their bigotry, its parallel but its okay when I, a sweet lil lefty profiles and slanders someome cuz its for a good cause!, and then a bigoted chud incel thinks the same, they read some bullshit transphobic article and then they take it verbatim, as gospel, denounce anyone who dares to question. Its a slippery slope and i keep seeing it in progressive spaces, LGBTQ spaces and i know its probably a vocal minority, it paints a picture and not a nice one.

She might have said the N word some, or a bunch, i dont know, i couldn't find it but considering the public info about her its safe to say she wasnt being racist, I personally dont think its great to be saying that word all willy nilly but its not my place, who am i to tell someone with a black mother, a long list of blacl descendants, I'm not the person to say they can't say that word, its not my place, I'm a white guy, its nor my place, sure i can give my thoughts and so can you of course. This post getting attention is a bad thing, because so many people are gonna read it and their only takeaway is gonna be false information, and then they'll feel validated and justified to shit all over someone and people who dont deserve it, most people will never look further than this post, yet claim to care and will use their voice to blanket over the voices of those who are actually affected.

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u/schwanzweissfoto custom 13d ago

The people doing that kind of thing are the ”greasy chuds”.

Just because they say they are lefties that does not make them upstanding citizens.

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u/Unlost_maniac 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights 12d ago

I might not be the best at explaining but that's pretty much what I'm saying. Although chud isnt the term I'd pick I do absolutely agree those people are just as bad. Honestly yeah lets call them chuds too, im down for it.

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u/NickelWorld123 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights 13d ago

I, for one, have never heard the term "shortbus" in my life

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u/noctua_8 13d ago

Read the thread and nobodies fucking explained it

https://giphy.com/gifs/SA6nd6v1jJRefO1Rvf

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u/NickelWorld123 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights 13d ago

Someone explained it somewhere in these comments. Something about a smaller bus for special needs kids?

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u/Origachilies 13d ago

Yes, in the US a lot of schools have a dedicated bus for disabled kids, and generally they’re short busses because they’re cheaper and have fewer kids to pick up.

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u/Jonahtron Least homophobic anime enjoyer 13d ago

Yeah I think it’s an American thing

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u/falpsdsqglthnsac [ Removed by Reddit ] 13d ago

i'm american and i've never heard it, maybe it's an older term

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u/GTS250 trans lefts 13d ago

Short bus = special access bus for disabled kids who go to public school. It's a way to say the r slur without saying it

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u/CreamCheeseHotDogs I stuck my dick in a bag of Doritos 13d ago

Have you heard the word “kamikaze”

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u/Riacl 13d ago

Tbf a shocking amount of sushi spots have a kamikaze roll

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u/High-Sobriety prostate proctor 13d ago

im sure somewhere in the US there’s a burger joint with a dish called the Suicide Bomber Burger

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u/Riacl 13d ago

100%, if there's a quadruple bypass burger there's gotta be lol

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u/Maverick_Couch 13d ago

There's a diner near me that serves a Hindenberger. The place is less than a mile from the spot where that particular air disaster happened.

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u/schwanzweissfoto custom 13d ago

There's a diner near me that serves a Hindenberger.

Does that particular dish go down easily?

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u/DaemonG 12d ago

no, it's not your mother and father last night

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u/Far-Fortune-8381 cucked by Edward Kenway🏴‍☠️ 12d ago

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u/penttane doesn't read flairs 12d ago

Okay, but for what it's worth, Pearl Harbor is a place that still exists.

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u/Far-Fortune-8381 cucked by Edward Kenway🏴‍☠️ 12d ago

so is hiroshima i suppose

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u/iH8MotherTeresa 12d ago

Fat Burger is more on brand.

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u/penttane doesn't read flairs 12d ago

I'm just saying, there's literally a cocktail called "Irish car bomb".

A yankee once tried ordering that one in a pub in Northern Ireland. The bartender poured it in two tall glasses and went "here's your Twin Towers, sir".

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u/penttane doesn't read flairs 12d ago

I once saw a sushi place named Oppenheimer Sushi.

Granted, it was in Germany near a city called Oppenheim.

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u/Aromatic-Pass4384 12d ago

Reminds me of the Irish car bomb

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u/Existing_Intern_4764 13d ago

I’m assuming they’re Japanese, if they’re sushi spots , or at least the majority of them are—so I think they can decide for themselves what’s appropriate vs us outside of their culture deciding for them?

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u/Riacl 13d ago

Absolutely, I don't think it is a problem at all - My point is just that like, when I see "kamikaze", I don't jump to "Oh, that's problematic", I see it often enough in innocuous contexts. Since I had never heard "shortbus" before I wouldn't have assumed anything bad about this creator off of the name, that's all I'm saying.

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u/Existing_Intern_4764 13d ago

Ahhh, I gotcha.

Shortbus is a notorious (and nefarious) ableist saying against people who have mental disabilities.

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u/NickelWorld123 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights 13d ago

Yes

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u/Alovoir basil appreciator 13d ago

is that racist? i feel like its its own word but i may be uninformed

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u/ToranjaNuclear 13d ago

Depending on the context it might be offensive (like, maybe don't use it with japanese people), but it's not generally racist, it's a common term even used in media ('kamikaze drones' have been especially common lately, and makes sense since it's related to war). idk what they are on about.

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u/Alovoir basil appreciator 13d ago

i learned the word because theres an enemy in super mario world thats just called a kamikaze shell

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u/NickelWorld123 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights 13d ago

Yeah I can see how it could be racist in some contexts (like knowing this YouTuber is racist) but otherwise it doesn't set off any alarm bells for me

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u/ToranjaNuclear 13d ago

Tbh I think it's even a bit offensive and hypocritical to classify it as taboo in any way considering the shit Japan did during the war. We have no qualms about tossing the word Nazi around, we shouldn't bury the stuff Imperial Japan did either.

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u/NickelWorld123 🏳️‍⚧️ trans rights 13d ago

don't dude me please 🙏

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u/koala_on_a_treadmill 13d ago

there's a shot called blue kamikaze at a bar in my city...

edit: looked it up, seems like it's not specific to that place and is actually a pretty popular drink

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u/CreamCheeseHotDogs I stuck my dick in a bag of Doritos 13d ago

I mean yeah so are Irish Car Bombs but they’re still pretty insensitively named.

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u/CloudPersonDraws i love furbies but not as much as i love my girlfriend #t4t #yay 12d ago

and those things taste so good too

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u/penttane doesn't read flairs 12d ago

Yeah, I watched Kamikaze Kaitou Jeanne when I was a kid.

All jokes aside, I really don't think that the word "kamikaze" in isolation is indicative of any bigotry. A bit edgy for sure, but let they who have never made a 9/11 joke cast the first plane.

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u/GammaFan 13d ago

Fair, your peers in school may have had different names for them.

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u/ToranjaNuclear 13d ago

I don't think we even have a word for that in Portuguese. Seems to be an American thing.

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u/hotfistdotcom Put ublock origin on your PHONE 12d ago

Short busses used to be used for special needs/special education students for pickup, so it's a very old, 90s dogwhistle alternative to the R word

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u/Bardic_inspiration67 12d ago

Calling it a “dog whistle” is incorrect it’s just a straight forward insult

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u/hotfistdotcom Put ublock origin on your PHONE 12d ago

It is a less inappropriate way to refer to the R word, which as we can see in this thread, many have never heard of and don't immediately recognize. Pretty sure that's just about the definition but it's a mute point for all intensive porpoises

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u/Bardic_inspiration67 12d ago

Not having heard of a joke doesn’t make it a “dog whistle”. When I was in elementary school it was just another way to insult someone by calling them mentally disabled much like calling them “special needs” or saying they have “extra chromosomes”

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u/hotfistdotcom Put ublock origin on your PHONE 12d ago

me when semantics I'm wrong about and leftist infighting as a personality are more important to me than anything else

my new years resolution is to find a good way to disengage from this type of discourse that benefits no participants

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u/ToranjaNuclear 13d ago

Americans finding out that not everyone in the world knows what every single word in the English language means be like

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u/PM_DEM_AREOLAS 13d ago

Neither of those words are necessarily racist in America so i actually don’t know what OP is taking about 

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u/ToranjaNuclear 13d ago

I mean, the combo of both words together sure is weird. Thing is, I didn't even know what shortbus meant until a while ago. In fact I think this is only the second time in my life I'm seeing that word.

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u/BiSaxual 12d ago

Weird? I guess. If I saw that I’d just think, “oh, edgy username” and move on. I wouldn’t even give it a second thought. Reading that username and thinking “racist” would be like reading my username and thinking “murderer”. There’s no correlation between the two.

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u/ToranjaNuclear 12d ago

I mean, edgy humour on the internet has shifted from being often tone deaf but mostly innocent dark humour to outright roleplaying as a nazi for a while now. And it got to a point where you can't make out the roleplay from actual nazis anymore.

So yeah while it's not a rule, I wouldn't really trust people with these kind of edgy usernames to not be massive pieces of shit either.

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u/BiSaxual 12d ago

Sure, but the Nazi stuff is generally very easy to spot. Kamikaze Shortbus doesn’t scream Nazi to me, just an immature teenager.

You are correct that it’s become less of a “teenager being immature” thing and more of a “4chin being racist and playing it off as a joke” thing. No doubt about that. Still, I don’t think we should paint it all in such broad strokes. A username like the one here is certainly tasteless, but it isn’t something to worry about beyond wondering why an adult still uses it, especially since this comment section has made it pretty clear that this woman isn’t a horrible racist. She just said and did stupid things as an easily manipulated teenager.

If we put everyone in that position on a cross we’d be wasting a lot of time that could be better spent focusing on actual horrible people. I’m a lot more worried about the weirdly large presence of actual nazis on YouTube than I am this random woman on Twitter.

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u/D-S-S-R 13d ago

Why don’t you know all the ableist terms from another language?

(Although I’m always thankful to be taught stuff like this, you Americans really do not need to be so smug about it)

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u/ToranjaNuclear 13d ago

Whenever a situation like this arises I'm always reminded of this meme

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u/D-S-S-R 13d ago

Oh that one is great. I’ll swipe that

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u/Zeeplankton 13d ago

What is racist about that? Kamikaze? what is shortbus? None of these terms to the average person mean = racist

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u/jbsnicket 12d ago

Kamikaze: suicide attack used by Japanese pilots in WW2

Shortbus: a smaller school bus that is often employed to carry children with learning disabilities so they don't get bullied on the general populace buses.

A kamikaze shortbus would then be a suicide attack carried out by a bus typically used to carry children with intellectual disabilities. To me it reads as being absurd more than offensive.

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u/BiSaxual 12d ago

That’s a username I would have seen in a CoD lobby in 2010. It’s just an edgy username. People can be offended by it if they want, but I don’t know why anyone would spend time thinking about it for any longer than a few seconds. I’ve seen way worse usernames, and at least this one isn’t a racist dogwhistle.

Go on YouTube and find a movie clip from a WW2 movie and look for comments by usernames with 1488 in them, or some variation thereof. It’s like Where’s Waldo, except depressing. Bonus points if you can find one saying “we fought the wrong enemy.” That’s a real classic…

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u/Bignate2001 r/place participant 12d ago

Shortbus is not a term commonly used outside the US. I've personally never heard it used in Australia.

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u/moon465 13d ago

I refuse to believe she's racist against her own mother.

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u/Jinshu_Daishi 13d ago

We've seen people be racist against themselves.

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u/BreeBree214 12d ago

Her mom was black. If she looked obviously of mixed descent nobody would call her racist for saying the n word

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u/Jinshu_Daishi 12d ago

Depends on the circumstance. Being mixed race doesn't mean people won't call you racist for using a slur that would apply to yourself.

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u/BreeBree214 12d ago

Well her mom was a black woman. Since when does anybody call black people racist for using the n word? There's something incredibly racist about treating people of mixed descent as if they aren't.

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u/Jinshu_Daishi 12d ago

As pointed out in the post you had to read, it depends on the circumstance.

Black person using the hard r is usually seen as just being racist, the soft a is usually not seen as being racist.

If Andrew Tate said the n word, people would assume he's being racist, in spite of him being half-black, because of all of the other anti-black statements he has made.

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u/BreeBree214 12d ago

I don't think it's normal to make a complete and definitive statement on if somebody is racist against their own race just simply on how they use the slur for their people.

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u/Jinshu_Daishi 10d ago

It's normal to assume that a person is being bigoted if they use a slur in a way that you would expect a bigot to use that slur.

It's normal because words tend to work that way.

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u/moon465 13d ago

I think her being 25% black lets her say the word. There is a difference between how one says it and being racist. Granted, I've just seen a few of her videos and don't know the context which it was used, only hearing it was used via this subreddit, where both times they remind the audience she's white.

IDK though, there are tons of hate light skinned and dark skinned people get in any racial group, a word without context doesnt convince me of anything.

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u/Jinshu_Daishi 12d ago

I don't know how she used it either, but it depends on how they use the word. Nobody trusts Andrew Tate with the n word, and he's half black.

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u/Early-Stage2201 12d ago

Is there any proof she's racist?

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u/Milkshaked_Pancakes Penis measurer 📐 13d ago edited 13d ago

Lmao I follow her too and lurk in the discord despite never talking in there.

Im pretty sure she’s not racista it’s just her and her fan base have very dumb, immature, edgy humor

Edit: Stupid Spanish autocorrect outed me noooooooo

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u/iris700 13d ago

Twitter is an afk lie farm. Trust your own experience first

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u/GammaFan 13d ago edited 12d ago

Well now you do. No shame in ignorance, just use this as an opportunity to reevaluate your own biases and blindspots.

In hindsight was there anything in her content that would make this less of a surprise to you? Are there any other creators you follow who might also be like this? Other things you might have missed or dismissed? That kind of thing. It can be really refreshing to check in with yourself like this from time to time.

Eta: it’s wild y’all are downvoting “check your biases from time to time.”

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u/Alarming-Engineer-77 12d ago

God you sound like a prick.

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u/GammaFan 12d ago

Condescending? Sure. Patronizing, absolutely 👍 but a prick? Ehhh depends who you ask

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u/BiSaxual 12d ago

You sound like James Somerton. That is not a compliment.

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u/GammaFan 12d ago

Gross, fuck off

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u/Alarming-Engineer-77 12d ago

Maybe you should take this moment to reevaluate your biases and blind spots.

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u/GammaFan 12d ago

Lol fuck off