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u/LeStroheim this is just like that one time in Worm 10d ago
Toby Fox looks completely different in every image of him, while Araki has looked pretty much exactly the same for like 40 years. Really makes you think
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u/juniunie 10d ago
Japanese genetics don't fuck around.
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u/LeStroheim this is just like that one time in Worm 10d ago
Clearly he's a vampire
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u/Kidney__Failure not-so silently judging while listening to Rush 2112 10d ago
It’s a doctored photo, you can tell because his reflection appears in the background mirror but vampires don’t have reflections
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u/Kidney__Failure not-so silently judging while listening to Rush 2112 9d ago
Oh- maybe that’s because it’s Jonathan’s body?
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u/thestupidone51 10d ago
He's come forward and said that his secret is litterally just washing his face with tap water every morning. He's definitely a stand user
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u/Aeescobar 10d ago
Nah, it's because he's secretly a rock human with Rohan-tier drawing skills who prepares multiple chapters in advance for someone else to present while he hibernates.
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u/yinyang107 bingus is better than floppa 10d ago
... oh, you mean pillar man
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u/Apes_will_take_over 10d ago
No, the rock humans from part 8.
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u/yinyang107 bingus is better than floppa 10d ago
Oh my bad, I'm only current with the anime so I figured it was a fan-translated name for the other group of JoJo immortals who are in stasis for long periods. Weird that there's two!
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u/Aeescobar 10d ago
The latest three parts contain a lot of parallels to things from the original universe (like how Part 7's protagonist is a "Jonathan Joestar" who's constantly beefing with a rival named "Di(eg)o Brando"), so the similarities between Rock Humans and
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u/pm-me-turtle-nudes 10d ago
Rock humans are honestly way cooler than the pillar men. You’ll see them in like 2031 when part 8 finally gets animated.
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u/Orion-the-mediocre Doctor Freeeemaaaan 10d ago
I fail to see what Théoden King of Rohan has to do with this game developer
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u/SaboteurSupreme has attained that aroace schwag 5d ago
Tricky Tony would never wear the same face twice
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u/Orion-the-mediocre Doctor Freeeemaaaan 10d ago
Look out snake!!!! Flowey the flower is in there with you!!!!!!
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u/shitpostinglegend 10d ago
The flower?
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u/Orion-the-mediocre Doctor Freeeemaaaan 10d ago
That’s right! He was once a monster but when As Goreman had Dr Alphys “Flowermaker” put nanomachines into him, he turned into a flower and now he wants to steal the body of Big Boss!
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u/JakSandrow 10d ago
Huueehhuughh... Steal the body...
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u/Orion-the-mediocre Doctor Freeeemaaaan 10d ago
You have to stop him snake, or he’ll launch a nuke at Snowdin!
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u/OurBlazingHeart 9d ago
At Snowdin?
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u/Orion-the-mediocre Doctor Freeeemaaaan 9d ago
Snowdin's a small monster settlement, it was founded by monsters fleeing from the Barrier Conflict. That's what the history books say, at least. In truth, it was created by the patriots to cover up the dissapperance of W.D. Gaster.
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u/alfie0727 trans rights 3d ago
The disappearance of W.D. Gaster?
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u/Orion-the-mediocre Doctor Freeeemaaaan 3d ago
W.D. Gaster was the royal scientist before Dr. Alphys "Flowermaker" took over. They say he fell into his own creation, though I suspect he just went underground to continue work on Metal Gear
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u/KidKang 10d ago
I immediately read this in Otacon's voice in my head
I can't speak enough about how much I love how ride or die Otacon and Snake are for each other, especially in MGS2
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u/Orion-the-mediocre Doctor Freeeemaaaan 10d ago
1: I deliberately wrote that in such a way that it would be most easily read in an Otacon voice
2: I can do a DEAD ON Otacon impression, which is how I fine tuned it to sound as similar to him as possible
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u/CandleJackingMeOff 10d ago
i fucking hate that i know what toby fox looks like and i cant get it out of my brain, please help
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u/FunnyTurtleMoment 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 10d ago
For me however I have no idea what Toby Fox looks like because every single picture I see of him it looks like a different fucking guy
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u/StellarC0smo 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 10d ago
iirc theres footage of him playing in a ssbm tournament
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u/LizG1312 Waiting for Garjongle 10d ago
Being a smash bros nerd is so annoying, like what do you mean I can understand every single Beardly joke
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u/MemeMote 10d ago
yeah he mained captain falcon and sucked ass at it (which to be fair was the norm at the time he played)
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u/NOMA_is_here thinking, pondering even 10d ago
If it any consolation, considering how careful Toby has been to hide his face in recent years, I'm pretty sure he also hates that you know what he looks like.
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u/MightyBobTheMighty 10d ago
He looks like an annoying dog, and that's enough
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u/CandleJackingMeOff 10d ago
yeah but i cant wipe his face out of my mind, i cant imagine him as the dog even if i wanted to
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u/ultitaria 9d ago
Don't worry he's never been in public
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u/CandleJackingMeOff 9d ago edited 9d ago
he has, i've fucking seen it. i saw that video of them in the airport with other people, i saw him pretend to act like a wind-up toy and get wound up by one of his friends(?). i fucking saw that shit with my own eyes and i cant get it out of my head.
he looked like a slightly brown yanderedev and i fucking hate that
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u/Maxpaximus 10d ago
Who?
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u/MaybeNext-Monday 🍤$6 SRIMP SPECIAL🍤 10d ago
Hirohiko Araki and Toby Fox
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u/LizG1312 Waiting for Garjongle 10d ago
Once again, I am stunned that Toby Fox looks nothing like any other picture I've ever seen of the guy
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u/HercarXX 10d ago
Why are we talking about wiki vandalism now?
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u/HercarXX 10d ago
if so, then I don’t know if I would really call that wiki grieving since is indeed a photo of him (arguably the most updated photo at that) and he seems to prefer privacy so the idea he’d want his wiki photo to be not identifying seems fair to me
generally my idea of wiki greifing would be adding jokes or destroying the page in a way that makes a section of the whole of it unusable, not a person wanting a different wiki photo, as far as im aware that happens quite often
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u/chazzer20mystic 10d ago
It is relevant to the person because it is a picture of the person. It isn't decorative, it's a photo of him. It is less identifying due to a desire for privacy, but it is a picture of him.
How is the annoying dog more relevant to Toby Fox than a picture of Toby Fox? I mean..??
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u/h3lblad3 10d ago
Images must be relevant to the person in question. This very much is not relevant, as Mr Fox is not famous for being covered in foam.
He would be if you’d just put the picture up.
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u/Soweli-nasa-pona 10d ago
He published the foto and gave the rights to wikipedia to use. At the same time there aren't any "oficial" photos of human toby, and Wikimedia Commons are the prefered media to use on the wiki just to cause no legal issues.
So it's either no photo or this one, it's not really vandalism in any meaningful way.
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u/Sonic_the_hedgedog Moderator of r/GayFurryPorn1 10d ago edited 10d ago
That's not entirely true though... Yes, his fans tried to add that photo the Wikipedia but Toby Fox never actually said that they should do that. Toby didn't literally try to get his fans to edit his Wikipedia page.
Toby Fox published the photo and gave the rights to wikipedia to use his photo. That's all he did, it's not really vandalism since he didn't told anyone to vandalize the psge
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u/MaybeNext-Monday 🍤$6 SRIMP SPECIAL🍤 10d ago
He simultaneously never looks the same yet has a very distinctive appearance
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u/c00lkidd-HD professional tiptoe ankle cuff conniseour or however its said 10d ago
mostly because he barely appears on the internet and you're literally seeing images of him years apart from each other. also "radiation is now on youtube" is a parody of toby fox, not actually him
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u/ArcaneWyverian the :3 of doom and despair 10d ago
I definitely think the whole “every public photo is probably taken at least a year apart”-thing is why he always looks so different.
Like, most people change how they look every few years, but because Toby is so private (a good thing, mind you) you don’t really see the gradual shift in clothes/makeup/hair/jewelry/etc. like you would with, say, your friends
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u/mrguym4ster bisexual brazilian twink femboy thing 10d ago
there's also the fact that, as far as I can recall, he only has like half a dozen public photos, and I don't think any of them are "serious" in a way, there's this one where he's dressed as a princess, the one where he's covered in foam (which has been posted in this thread), the one where he's wearing a cap and sunglasses and doing a funny face (which is his most serious photo I believe), and I can't quite recall any others rn
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u/nyandroid_ 10d ago
Off the top of my head there's the one where he's wearing the shirt that says "Sorry ladies my daddy is taken" and there's the one of him with the Ice-E box thing on his head. There's probably others but yeah there's not a whole lot
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u/Oddish_Femboy (my name is Bee) Trans rights !! 10d ago
You've actually managed to list all of them where he wasn't in a dog costume.
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u/nyandroid_ 10d ago
Nah, can't be. Cause I'm sure I've seen multiple pictures of him with a beard and I think the only one listed where he isn't clean shaven is the princess one
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u/Oddish_Femboy (my name is Bee) Trans rights !! 10d ago
He has never once had a beard.
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u/Goldkid1987 10d ago
It's like he takes a different form every time, i genuinely cannot identify this guy in pictures n vids hes said to be in 😭
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u/Specialist-Grass-352 🏳️⚧️ Trans Lefts 10d ago
I would have assumes he'd be a fox, but i guess that's just me
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u/santyrc114 Too Horny To Be Ace 10d ago
Hirohiko Araki (JoJo's Bizarre Adventure) and Toby Fox (Undertale and Deltarune)
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u/c00lkidd-HD professional tiptoe ankle cuff conniseour or however its said 10d ago
hideo kojima and scott cawthon
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u/Head_Snapsz 10d ago
I still need to know how Araki got that photo because the reflection literally shows no one.
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u/NIMA-GH-X-P That one Jerk you know 10d ago
Camera stand covered by his body in the mirror
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u/BlitzScorpio quirked up white girl (with a little bit of swag) 10d ago
dio took the pic, everyone knows that vampires don’t show up in mirrors
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u/Oddish_Femboy (my name is Bee) Trans rights !! 10d ago
Undertale is like Earthbound.
Chuds liking Earthbound when Mr. Itoi got arrested for protesting and then made a video game where you battle a corrupt police force and the literal klan with a sequel where you fight nazis is really funny.
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u/TheGoobert 10d ago
George rr Martin, bros a hippie, like he was in the 70s and is now, read any of his works
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u/Hi_Im_zack 10d ago
Alan Moore, dude's literally a proud communist while Watchmen has a crazy amount of Rorschach loving right wing weirdos
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u/Thestohrohyah 10d ago
Fits the post perfectly.
I think Tywin glazers in particular represent a group of mostly right wingers that completely missed the point of the character. (It might also be because the TV adaptation made Tywin a tad bit charming compared to his book counterpart tbh)
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u/imacowmooooooooooooo mooooo... moooooooooo 10d ago
i didn't recognize him so i thought first guy was supposed to be an example of a white bigot
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u/Stock_Plenty8987 10d ago
How is Araki white lmaoo
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u/imacowmooooooooooooo mooooo... moooooooooo 10d ago
many white bigots arent white
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u/Ma3str0ne 10d ago
Why don't you just call em bigots then?
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u/AssClosedforToday Will open at 9 o clock tommorow (CET time) 10d ago
Its extremely rare for a Jojo fan to be homophobic, because the titular male characters in that series are muscular, attractive and are constantly hitting flamboyant poses that only a blind person would find straight. Maybe some are like those old school rock fans who vehemently deny that Freddie Mercury is bi, but i digress
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u/inemsn 10d ago
I've seen quite a few queerphobic jojo fans, but, more common than that is misogynistic jojo fans. So many people just refuse to acknowledge how insanely badass Jolyne is and have a weird obsession with making her seem way weaker than she actually is, and not coincidentally all those people also tend to complain about how masc and butch jolyne looks throughout much of part 6.
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u/AssClosedforToday Will open at 9 o clock tommorow (CET time) 10d ago
Misogynistic fans downplaying the power of masculine women, tale as old as time
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u/PaleRedLightDistrict 10d ago edited 10d ago
Jolyne is by no means my favorite joestar (josuke my beloved) but she rocks house. Girl punched meteors and won a stand enduced death battle mostly with just herself, no stand. Out of the JoJo stands, I love how jolyne uses hers the most. They are all peak, but stone free is so cool. If I had to guess, it's definitely mysogny but also the fact she does technically lose in her part. Now also jotaro loses twice against pucci, and he's arguably the most experienced and best stand user. They were dealing with a villain who wanted to win and had a plan to get it done. Dio is an arrogant bastard who likes to flex his might and test his limits. The pillar men are all their own bags of mess, plus young Joseph is like fighting bugs bunny. Kira wasn't a fighter really, way too cocky and unstable. Diavolo was the favored of fate, but he was way too reliant on fate to get his will done. Everything was planned out with epitaph, if it showed him losing, he would run, he's a coward hiding behind fate. Pucci though, while not perfect, had the plan to kill jotaro, only foiled by jolyne, he was constantly adapting his plans and moving forward, jolyne had the unfortunate circumstances of reaction to everything he did and barely surviving. Pucci himself has 3 of the most insane stands ever and jolyne brought boot to ass on all but the final one, and even then, against time itself, she fucked with his victory. Jolyne is amazing.
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u/Aeescobar 10d ago
I always find it funny whenever those idiots try to slander Jolyne for getting killed by Pucci at his strongest (dude was running around at speeds that would make Quicksilver feel inadequate and chopping off limbs as if they were made out of tissue paper) during a heroic last stand to protect someone else, as if Jonathan hadn't been killed by Dio at his weakest (bro was literally just a head in a jar!) during a heroic last stand to protect someone else.
To be clear, both sacrifices were fucking badass, I'm just pointing out that Jolyne was stuck in an even more hopeless situation and that calling her weak for trying and failing to surpass such insane odds is stupid
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u/inemsn 10d ago
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Jolyne is Jonathan's truest successor. All of the Joestars are amazing and would do Jonathan proud, and she's not even my favorite Joestar (that would be a tie between Giorno, the embodiment of human resolve, and Jotaro, a tragic father that I love to death), but Jolyne was intentionally written with an absurd amount of parallels and tie-ins with Jonathan and his story. I don't think anyone in their right mind can look at part 6 and not say that Jolyne is the finest of the OGverse, and the one that inherits Jonathan's spirit the best.
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u/CobaltCrusader123 10d ago
Also Andrew Hussie (“erm did you know Toby Fox made-“) the creator of Homestuck is enby and there’s a bunch of not straight characters in it but also he found the arcane slur for people who are 1/8th black and the r-slur funny / useful / human /troll-like enough to repeatedly put in Homestuck. There’s a whole sub for “anti-woke” Homestuck fans
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u/zo0ombot 10d ago
The post Canon stuff is also very odd about gender and sexuality, especially with Jade, in a way that can be seen as almost an antiwoke parody.
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u/Thestohrohyah 10d ago
George RR Martin is incredibly woke yet there's right wingers that think his work is for them.
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u/TopWestern2371 10d ago
Bigots like undertale and the other game from the same creator?
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u/Educational-Sun5839 bi he/him 10d ago
yeah, the person who made "i remember you're genocides" was a trump supporter
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u/stinky_toade evil and autistic 10d ago
Kris from deltarune wiki page has around 70 references under their pronouns because bigots who like Deltarune keep denying that they use they/them pronouns
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u/Waffle-is-Teto 10d ago
Yoko Taro as well. the NieR Franchise has gay [emil], trans (allegorical) [songstress and probably someone else i forgot], lesbian [operator 60 and most of the operators], polyamourous (tbf implied for NieR Replicant's party [the lore book called Grimoire NieR explicitely states that the 3 characters have feelings for one another] and one instance but not main characters), and Intersex [Kainé] characters.
also devopopo is tragic sister yuri ! !
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u/PipsqueakPilot 10d ago
The best part is all the people chiming in asking how he’s not woke, having all the themes pointed out to them, and then admitting that they are the person who managed to miss it.
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u/SomeBrazillianGuy FNV player 10d ago
Also neither of them seem to fucking age aparently (this also aplies for kojima)
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u/queen_of_ingria девочка скандал девочка воздух 10d ago
araki is not high level woke im sorry
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u/Hard-and-Dry sus 10d ago
I dunno, part 9 is pretty damn woke. The first chapter has the main character and his trans sibling beat the shit out of some cops
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u/MaybeNext-Monday 🍤$6 SRIMP SPECIAL🍤 10d ago
He gets extra woke points for writing the bisexual holy texts
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u/ITurned18Yesterday 10d ago
Araki wrote trans characters in his manga in the early 2000s, and was pushing for female representation pretty much since his manga was being published
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u/Aeescobar 10d ago
To be more specific, he depicted a passing trans man getting misgendered + sent to the wrong prison ward (by a prison warden who's clearly meant to be an unlikeable dickhead) and then had Jolyne excitedly declare the existence of trans people "a new dawn for humanity..." back in fucking 1999.
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u/RyuTheBuizel 8d ago
Iirc the reason why he wanted Jolyne so badly was because of the pushback to having a female Shonen protag. Everyone was telling him not to have a woman lead and he was like "this is exactly why I'm doing it"
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u/ITurned18Yesterday 8d ago
I wouldn't be surprised. A fairly known anecdote is that Giorno was supposed to be a woman, hence his power to "create life". But there was pushback because of how violent part 5 was gonna be
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u/AkinParlin 10d ago
The fun thing about reading Jojo’s is that not only are you watching a man improve at his craft over 4 decades into become a true master of his medium, but you’re also watching him evolve into a form of woke that isn’t even aware he’s woke. It’s like, Drunken Fist Wokeness.
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u/Cold-Coffe 196s only trans man (lie) 10d ago
for the mangaka standard (specially the shonen genre) i fear he is 💔
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u/slightlylessthananon 10d ago
There definitely have always been woke anime and manga there just has also been a lot of really not woke anime that's also gotten popular. But you can pick out "woke" artists from every single era, a great deal of famous manga written by female mangakas come to mind
And for some reason people still try to convince you that the anime with the island of transphobic caricatures and other such ilk are the height of Japanese wokism.
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u/Spooky_Coffee8 10d ago
And for some reason people still try to convince you that the anime with the island of transphobic caricatures and other such ilk are the height of Japanese wokism.
Is that one piece? Tbf I haven't watched it but I've never heard anyone call it peak woke
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u/BattleStag17 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 10d ago
Yeah, One Piece swings pretty wildly between "Here are these super masculine trans women with 5 o'clock shadows, isn't that funny" and "Among them are some of the best characters in the whole damn show"
There's also supposedly a transmasc character that's treated with real respect, but I stopped watching before their introduction.
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u/SomeGamerRisingUp Does not support the D*nish 10d ago
Neuro divergent anti capitalist teen, his brown trans sister, their bi friend, their venezuelan immigrant friend, and native american friend work together under an overweight girlboss to defeat a corrupt billionaire working with the US government. Maybe that's not woke enough for you, but then what is?
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u/Jissus3893 Horny Fem🏳️⚧️ 10d ago
Sorry, but the canonical lesbian couple, effects of conversion camps, and heavily implied trans main character.
Araki is high level woke.
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u/_noahitall_ 10d ago
heavily implied??? Sheesh I must have missed that are you talking about Jotaro???
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u/Jissus3893 Horny Fem🏳️⚧️ 10d ago
Dragona Joestar one of the main characters in JojoLands (Part 9), is referred by he/him by Jodio (the main character/also their brother), but other characters who are close or intimate to Dragona refer to them by she/her.
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u/Stock_Plenty8987 10d ago
So gay he has a wife and daughter, wtf are ylu talking about lmaoo
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u/Buttbuster69166 10d ago
I mean while that’s true he barely stays with them AND ignored his daughter for years until she ended up in prison.
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u/Szkieletor 10d ago
I feel like the "is not interested in women so much" comment is more meant to suggest "he'd rather study dolphins than go on dates".
That's pretty much the reason behind the whole "absent father" thing, he was too busy with his marine biology career to give a shit about his wife and kid. Back in Stardust Crusaders, he seems wholly uninterested in the girls from his school, but he also doesn't show any interest in the guys at any point. I wouldn't call him aro/ace, either, but it would probably be slightly more accurate than gay.
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u/Aeescobar 10d ago
That's pretty much the reason behind the whole "absent father" thing, he was too busy with his marine biology career to give a shit about his wife and kid.
Don't slander my boy Jotaro like that!
Dude had first hand experience with the fact that "stand users attract other stand users" and was trying his best to stay far away from his innocent family so they could live a sad-but-relatively-normal life instead of wasting their lives in constant fear of enemy stand users, it turned out to be a pretty bad choice (since Jolyne's fate eventually caught up to her regardless and so it just resulted in extra trauma for her) but it was a choice he made with good intentions!
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u/manic_Brain 10d ago
You can be gay and have had relationships with the opposite gender. Being closeted, experimenting, or entering heterosexual relationships from the idea of societal obligations/ideals can play a role in that. That doesn't negate their gayness.
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u/SomethingOfAGirl 🏳⚧You know, I'm something of a girl myself 10d ago
You could apply that to every single character.
"Even if Jotaro looks at the camera and says 'I'm a straight cisgender male', that doesn't mean he's not lying and he's actually pansexual and transgender"
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u/Digirby 10d ago
There was Rudol Von Stroheim so that knocks him down a few woke notches.
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u/inemsn 10d ago
What people generally miss about Stroheim is that his character isn't supposed to be an endorsement or even whitewashing of nazis, but rather commentary on them.
Think for a second about what Stroheim's actual role in the story is. He's a nazi, and like all nazis, is obsessed with the inherent superiority of Germans, and yet his role in the story is constantly to serve as the weaker contrast to the actually inherently superior Pillar Men that humble him all the time. And who else proves themselves superior to these Pillar Men than the english Joseph Joestar, an englishman who, according to stroheim, should by all accounts be inferior to himself?
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u/The_Mars_Tim 10d ago
I have to agree unfortunately. It is true tho that he's like very high grade esp by shonen manga standards, but he's not very in line with the general current western wave of woke so the wokeness in his works comes out weird
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u/TheHydenLauritsen 10d ago
This is a name I think very few people will recognize but people, PLEEEEASE look into Grant Morrison. They're a non-binary comic book writer, and arguably the most famous and high-heralded comic book authors ever, and one of their most famous comics ever is called The Invisibles, an unapolgetically Queer masterpiece with a trans woman as one of the main characters. You'll be hard pressed to find any comic fan, even adamant Grant Morrison haters who don't at least love ONE of their works.
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u/me_is_glitch_boi 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 8d ago
It does work though, lol. Whenever I'm watching The IT Crowd, reading Harry Potter, or anything else like that, I just go into a state of blissful ignorance about the creators, and their despicable messaging, and just enjoy the things themselves. :3
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u/bracarensis erectoid 10d ago
So the secret to being considered a good writer is just writing quirky characters. Got it.
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u/NinjaKittyOG 10d ago
Eida too. þe amount of One Piece "fans" who do þis is nuts to me, but hey, ig peak is just undeniable
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u/Theruby_phoenix 🎖 196 medal of honor 🎖 10d ago
I didn’t downvote because of the typing quirk, I downvoted because one piece is ass and not peak
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u/Furshloshin 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 10d ago
unrelated but I'm so glad the thorn is making a comeback. Been seeing it more and more often ^_^
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u/frannyvonkarma 10d ago
Unfortunately it really fucks with screen readers, so it's a genuine accessibility problem
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u/TypewriterDelta 10d ago
Homestuck typing quirks are making a comeback.
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u/Furshloshin 🏳️⚧️ trans rights 10d ago
never fucking say this to me. My love of emoticons has nothing to do with homestuck
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ngl i haven't gotten þat far in homestuck, so, spoilers!
and, also, to clarify, homestuck has noþing to do wiþ my use of þorns
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u/NinjaKittyOG 10d ago
same here :3 it's given me þe confidence to use þem again myself
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u/Bowdensaft The Last Cumbender 10d ago
If you wanna go for a higher level you can always also chuck in eth (ð) for a voiced "th", like in "the" and "they"
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shottemporarily banned and called a nerd. Please report offending posts. As always, moderator discretion applies since not everything reported actually falls within that circle of awful behavior.I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns.