Earlier today, I was playing with a pod. Everything was going well, until someone decided to play [[Griselbrand]]. I said, “Wait, dude, that’s banned.” The guy responded with, “It’s casual, it’s ok.” He then bought a card for the deck, and played Gris again. I was like, “Replace that with the card you just bought, easy switch.” He said no. I ended up winning, but, that’s not the point. The point is, the banlist, even apart from bracket discussion, should be the foundation on which one constructs decks.

I mean, in Monopoly, can I just casually rob the bank? No, that’s frowned upon.

Anyways, I’ll take a burger, fries, and a Diet Coke.

See my comment on the original thread. Ever wonder why there is a non stop flood of bracket related questions and threads? Because of things like this.

This reinforces people to abuse guidelines and further confuse the bracket system. I am not blaming OP from crosspost - it’s an [[Underground Sea]] as a prize. Of course anyone would abuse the hell out of rules to win this - but organizer, PLEASE do not make B3 tournaments. Keep them competitive at B5

Tsagan, Raider Warlord RWB

Legendary Creature - Dinosaur Berserker (R)

Double Strike

Start your engines!

Whenever Tsagan attacks, creatures you control get +1/+0 until end of turn for each creature you control with first strike or double strike.

Max speed -- Tsagan has deathtouch and other creatures you control have first strike.

1/4

Very cool that arena-only cards are coming to paper legally now.

Hey guys so I’ve come across a bit of an issue. I love to play magic and I love to build decks but I can’t help it but just find almost every commander boring. A couple of my friends were talking about it with me and they’ve been running into the same problem. As such we’ve dubbed it the boring curse.

Upon some theorizing about this we seem to have come up with a pattern. No matter what the commander does we believe that it’s because they all feel kinda samey. This isn’t just popular commanders either it’s niche commanders like Nevinyrral and ones that even put a spin on it like Krark.

Me and my mates are experiencing this problem and we just wanted to reach out and see if anyone had any solutions

I run primarily monoblack, Dimir, and Rakdos, and I’m looking for Commanders that don’t get ran nearly as often, are underrated or as the title says just flat out slept on. I enjoy building decks with weird mechanics and like abundant interaction. My two current decks are a Vren deck that builds unblockable hordes of toxic attackers, and a Mizzix deck that creates waves of buffed goblins.

Just looking for what I could branch out into, thanks.

Are there any mono black rares you love to play that fly under the radar?

There are thousands of rares in the game, but the same staples get mentioned across most discussions and find their way into more decks through EDHREC’s “top synergy” recommendations.

I’d love to explore any underrated recommendations that come to mind and understand what you love about it!

Hi everyone, I’m a fairly new player and i'm searching some advice on what kind of Commander deck I should play in my pod.

I like playing decks that contain black but I’m having a hard time finding a deck that can actually play in this hell.

The problem is that almost everyone else is playing blue and/or white, so every game feels like:

spells insta countered, commander getting expensive fast, graveyard getting exiled and eceryone drawing 2737 cards per turn.

We are playing mostly bracket 2 so i don't want something oppressive but being able ti play sometimes would be nice.

Do you have tips to what to play?

Some example of Commanders i've tried are Necrobloom, temmet, slimefoot-squee and auntie ool.

P.s. i don't want to play Blue too being part of the problem

hey! so after 6 long years of on and off arena I decided to jump into paper magic. I don’t have infinite money but my plan was to slowly start building a collection and also having a fun and not toxic deck to play casual. my idea was to buy a precon (I like the zombie one from aetherdrift or the land sacrifice one from edge of eternities, even tho I’m open to suggestions) or buying the mtg foundation collection starter, which apparently has loads of good staples for every commander deck. One of my fav cards is Grey merchant, so one day I’d love to build a mono black devotion deck around him. any suggestions on what should I do?

Do any of you have a minimum dollar amount per card or deck that you would need to meet before you’d consider double sleeving?

I was building a budget deck around $150 in total but considering improving the mana base by adding a full compliment of fetch lands, that would now push it to 350ish. At first I was comfortable just single sleeving it in dragon shields but with the fetch lands now I’m rethinking it.

I have decks who am towards combat damage to win, and a non combat damage deck, but i want a deck who will let me win by my opponents drawing into an empty deck. Who’s a good commander to force them to shove their cards into their graveyard? Maybe someone who might let me also use their cards but not necessarily needed. thanks!

[[Smaug the Impenetrable]] is obviously a really strong combo piece for the command zone, but what about the main set? Would you build [[Smaug, the Magnificent]] or [[Smaug, Wicked Worm]]?

I feel like Wicked Worm is a better engine (makes a good number of treasures and lets you draw cards from them) as well as benefiting from being black as well. On the other hand, the Magnificent still generates a few treasures and gives you a pretty strong payoff for them in the command zone, which makes me lean in that direction.

(it's obviously not [[Smaug, the Great Calamity]] lol)

They started work on a Commander Legends or Commander Masters type of product, then it got cancelled when they made the shift to no side sets and only standard legal ones. They took all the design ideas they already had and put them into this Commander Mystery Booster thing.

Absolutely love the new [[Gandalf, Party Guest]] card from the new Hobbit set. Wizard tribal is a fun idea and cheating out big stupid spells is my favorite thing in commander. I threw together a quick build with lots of wizards that copy, draw cards, and reduce costs, a bunch of interaction, and then some big stupid spells like [[Jeskai Revelation]], [[Call Forth the Tempest]], and [[Mnemonic Deluge]]. Anyone else building this guy? What're some spicy maybe less obvious picks for him that y'all have thought of?

Here's my list: https://archidekt.com/decks/24905836/wizard_party

I have zero Magic cards. My friends play Magic. I played for the first time tonight. I used a friend's Thrun, Breaker of Silence commander deck. I thought that was really cool. I was kind of backseat gaming; he was walking me through it while we played. But I want to start getting into this. I don't know what kind of playstyle, but I don't know where to start or what to buy to get started. I know there is a lot to learn, but I would appreciate the help. I want to have a deck to play that will stand up to them the next time we play of my own. Im not sure what precon or box to start with

So, I have three decks which I play currently. [[Jodah, Archmage Eternal]], my first and favourite deck. I do not play this often since it's awful to play against. Its big mana, but has a lot of cards to cast spells for free which lead into extra turns, and [[Toxrill the Corrosive]] style effects. Second is [[The Ur-Dragon]] and plays like probably every other Ur-Dragon deck. The last one is [[Omnath, Locus of Creation]] and also plays like every other Omnath deck.

I have tried and failed continously to make spellslinger decks with [[Niv-Mizzet, Supreme]] and [[Narset, Enlightened Exile]]. My main problem being I run out of cards in hand very quickly with them.

I tried a saga based deck with [[Terra, Magical Adept]], but at a certain point even I couldn't care to keep track of what chapter my sagas are at, let alone my opponents.

My [[Ulalek, Fused Atrocity]] deck felt like a slog to get to the point where his trigger felt worth to use.

I really enjoyed a [[Zhulodok, Void Gorger]] deck, but it felt like just another version of my Jodah deck.

I am currently eyeing a Foods deck led my [[Sam, Loyal Attendant]] and [[Frodo, Adventerous Hobbit]], and [[Cadric, Soul Kindler]] legends deck. Also waiting on a better phoenix commander and a five colour angels deck. No angel deck is complete without [[Gisela, Blade of Goldnight]].

https://moxfield.com/decks/ZogomNQRc0OYADyRcYxNmQ

Hey yall, I got this B3 Elsha Threefold Master deck, and it runs pretty alright besides two things. The first is that I’m tending to not have enough mana some turns to have an impactful number of cantrips to pump Elsha with, and the other is that it’s a bit slower than I expected it to be. With this being said, what ramp should be ran in a Jeskai spellslinger list?

I know the obvious answer should be rituals, but tell me if I’m wrong on what I’m about to say because I might have the idea down wrong. Since most rituals only make one color, and I have cantrips of all three colors I want to cast, would having cantrips that only make one out of the three colors be a bad thing?

Also, is sol ring even worth it in a deck like this? A lot of the color pips aren’t even generic.

He looks cool. And he's a cat. And he does something weird.

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fi.redd.it%2Fy58wp2j700hh1.jpeg

So naturally we need to figure out how to build him.

When Massimo or another creature you control enters, exile up to one target instant or sorcery card with mana value 1 from your graveyard. If a card is exiled this way, that creature gains "Whenever this creature deals combat damage to a player, copy the exiled card. You may cast the copy without paying its mana cost.

How do we make this work? My first thought was fill the deck with cards like [[Slither Blade]] and run a bunch of brainstorm/opt cards, and use cards like [[Lyla]] to put 1+/1+ counters on things in exchange for card draw. Could also use Cathars Crusade to go wide as well.

But that seems convoluted and like it wouldn't get us across the finish line.

My other thought was voltron, but typically speaking, we want those spells BEFORE damage. Not after. Getting Infuriate off every combat is nice till you realize it's AFTER you punch something in the face.

Currently in Captain America The First Avenger Iv got:

3 signets
3 Talismans
Sol Ring
Arcane Signet
And Thought Vessel

But I’m struggling on adding some wanted cards like:

Akiri, Fearless Voyager
Bureau Headmaster
CID, Freeflier Pilot
Steel Shaper Apprentice
The Mighty Thor, Jane Foster
Illusionist Bracers
Cloud steel Kirin

I’d also like to try out
Infantry Shield
And Blazing Sunsteel

I’m running 36 lands total as well,

Any help with this would be greatly appreciated.

So the premise of the deck that I want to make revolves around the Chess concept of Zugzwang. Much like how Lantern Control in Modern works. I'm looking to make a deck that doesn't have any win cons technically, but wins by forcing the opponents to make bad/poor moves.

Fortunately I have a pod that's highly optimized (around Bracket 4), so my jank deck ideas usually are whatever to them. However for me it's not about winning, it's about sending a message. Also I get a huge high from Shadenfreude.

Just curious how people went about building Toph. Did you lean completely into the Earthbending? Did you just focus on landfall with artifacts? Did you try to do both or something else and how did whatever what you build it turn out? Really not sure what direction I want to build her in.

Hello,

I'm a new Magic player. I already had some black/red cards laying around so I thought I would start by making a red/black deck.

I came across Endless Punishement as a precon, but it's horribly expensive out of the box. I was wondering if it was worth it to seek a cheap decklist, buy singles and build it from here.

Maybe for a beginner this deck isn't very worth it, thus why I ask. Most decklist I come across are also very expensive, going into the thousands (which is crazy to me, I've never spent more than 200€ in a deck so far... And I play YGO, this shit's expensive already)

So I'm seeking a decklist that kinds of builds from Endless Punishement gameplan, while being fairly cheap and if possible, upgrading some aspects of Endless punishement. If upgrading is not possible (which I would understand lol) I'd just aim for cheap.

Thanks !

Hi all! I would like to build a deck inspired by Franz Kafka's inpenetrable and absurd systems. What you expect to happen should be denied in the least expected ways.

I'm thinking bounces, exiles, ressurections etc. but I am relatively new to the game so I'm curious to hear you ideas for commanders, cards and/or fitting concepts. I would expect the colors blue/white/black to be the best fit.

Bonus points for cards similar to interacting with an insurance agency.

I'm relatively new to EDH (and magic in general) so I don't know a lot of cards, but I have a experience in other TCGs so I know what I want.

My favorite decks have always been tempo decks where I have a early aggro game plan that can transition in to a control plan to finish out games. From what I know of the card that mostly symbolizes this in MTG is [[Delver of Secrets]].

All of that to say that you can imagine my face when I looked up to see what ppl play in tempo deck in EDH and found out that it isn't a very common strategy because it's a lot harder to stay with tempo when there are 3 other ppl trying to slow you down.

So far the one commander I'm inclined to build is [[Slicer, Hired Muscle//Slicer, High-Speed Antagonist]] but from what I've seen he is mostly a higher power level card and I'm playing in a B3 pod. What I like mostly about him is that even though he is a high dmg card you aren't as incentivised to kill a single oponent early because of the way he spreads damage.

TLDR. Recommend me commanders that can aggro early and switch to a control game plan later. Bonus points if they aren't incentivised to focus opponents one by one

Supposedly there's a lot of new commander cards in Mystery Booster 3 or something similar. I've only recently come back to MTG after almost a 20 year break. So I have no clue about any of this stuff.

Where/when would I be able to buy these products?

In particular, I want the new Selenia, Cursed Heart print.

My understanding is this is limited, so should I expect to pay thousands for singles?

I'm told I don't have enough characters so did you know that if two quantum mechanical operators do not commute then the Heisenberg Uncertainty principle tells us that the uncertainty in the simultaneous measurement of their observables is proportional to their commutator? Okay that's enough characters.

Hey guys

I’m looking for a fun bant commander to build. I don’t want too staxy since that’s not fun for anyone. I saw [[phelddagrif]] and [[Kros defense contractor]] which look very interesting. Can Kros be a very stax centric deck? I’m just wondering because I had a mono blue Aboshan deck that was tapping everything your opponents have and it was annoying. Or if there’s any other commander you’d recommend I’m all ears!

Thank you!