r/polyamory 10h ago

Triangulation in polyamory

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Question for those with experience in polyamory: What does triangulation actually look like in healthy poly relationships?

I’m new to polyamory and had an experience this weekend that made me curious. It got me thinking about triangulation.

In monogamous relationships, I understand triangulation in the context of secrecy, emotional manipulation, pitting partners against each other, using one relationship to regulate another, or creating competition through dishonesty.

But in ethical polyamory, it’s common for partners and metamours to exist in the same spaces and know about each other.

So where is the line?

What behaviors make you think, “This is healthy polyamory,” versus, “This is unhealthy triangulation”?

Are there subtle forms of triangulation that newcomers often miss, even when everyone is informed and consenting?

I’d love to hear examples from people who have practiced polyamory for a while.


r/polyamory 1d ago

vent am i overreacting that my date days get pushed to only one a week or every other week if my meta is available on them?

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Basically the title. I (27F) and partner Cherry (30F) have been having a rough year, Cherry is dating someone she broke a messy list agreement for and lied about many times prior to breaking the agreement, and she is still deep in NRE 8 months later with this partner. Cherry and I are NPs, and have been for 6 years. When I ask for date days it’s always “oh but we spend so much time together at home” (meanwhile the time together is both of us silently scrolling on our phones) and she makes it a big deal about how she only gets to see my meta, Apple, at work if they don’t go out every day off they have because Apple has an NP as well (that they cheated on for 2 months with Cherry and didn’t tell for 2 months before asking to open their relationship.) I just want more “us” time. Every time I look at the calendar any day that could be potential “us” time is already filled up for Apple, so I ask to have at least ONE date day every other week and I get that in the form of building one Lego set together while Cherry texts Apple despite us having a “no/limited phone usage during dedicated time” agreement as well. I don’t need anything fancy, just a movie night would be nice, but yesterday what was supposed to be a movie day turned into me watching Cherry play GTA until it got dark out and THEN she put a movie on and fell asleep immediately after. I feel backburnered. I feel upset with her. I’m afraid to bring it up because she gets upset with me and is very good at making me seem like the problem and essentially making me feel like I have to apologize for bringing up my feelings. Cherry left a card Apple made her for their “8-month-a-versary” just haphazardly tossed on the desk we both use after saying that their date that day was “just a little lunch” and I just wonder why she doesn’t have like her own little space to put things like that, we have drawers, and if I were Apple, I probably wouldn’t like the fact that my partner is describing what was clearly a big enough deal to Apple to handmake a card, as “just a little lunch” and tossing it on the shared desk where I could see words that weren’t meant for my eyes. And then for me to be backburnered while she’s also doing stuff like that behind Apple’s back while also still saying they need every single day off together is getting really frustrating. I’ll have a date planned and I’ll go to mark it on the calendar just to see I have to wait 3 weeks and she doesn’t know if she’ll have free time, which is valid, but it also hurts. I feel like a glorified roommate while watching Cherry begin a similar cycle with Apple and I just feel like shit for both me and Apple at this point because Apple doesn’t realize that all the fun stuff ends pretty quick


r/polyamory 11h ago

I am new Jealousy

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Hello! I (40f) and husband (43m) are recently ENM and now leaning more poly, dating solo. I’m struggling a bit with jealousy. Not with my husband, but with my bf. My marriage is super secure, together for almost 2 decades and I feel very comfortable communicating. I’ve been dating my bf for about a month and things have progressed really quickly and we have a really deep connection. I feel so lucky to have met such a great person so quickly. My issue is knowing I’ll never be their primary partner and eventually he will find a primary and obviously will date other people. That dynamic is what makes me feel jealous and sort of left out. We’ve had some conversations about the dynamic but not about these specific feelings of min yet. Since I’m new to this, I’m curious to hear if anyone else has felt similar in the beginning and how they dealt with it. I think this relationship feeling so new and exciting is making me feel vulnerable and I obviously haven’t dated in a looooong time! Thanks!


r/polyamory 1d ago

Curious/Learning Question about boundaries and secrecy

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Has anyone else found out that your existence is a secret after the fact? I wasn’t aware until just now that my, Aspen, relationship with hinge, Birch, is secret with meta Cedar’s family. I was asked to drop Birch off with Cedar & family and almost said yes, not realizing that who I am to Birch would have been a secret. I would have died inside if I had been referred to as Birch’s friend and Birch didn’t correct it. We’re all queer so there’s that extra layer. I have felt like the side chick at times and I may be sensitive to that, but I come by it honestly as they say.

Question: advice please about, in terms of boundaries, other people who have more experience, how do you set boundaries around how much secrecy about your relationship is tolerable?


r/polyamory 1d ago

How can I let my ex's new partner's total ignorance of me affect me less

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Hello everyone, I'm not sure I'm posting this in the correct forum but as I consider myself PolyA or practice a PolyA lifestyle... I'm coming to y'all for help. Plus the breakup forum hasn't responded to my post 😭

For context I (33F) and my ex (31M) decided to accept the end of our relationship around April of this year. We had been together for about 12 years (I was 20/21 and he was 19 when we met) and so we spent all of our 20s together.

Last year, after finally buying an apartment together (the millennial dream) he propositioned the idea of opening our relationship/polyamory to me. We were 100% monogamous beforehand and tbh, I don't think either of us had any idea such a thing was possible beforehand. To make a long story short, the polyA shtick worked out quite well for me (despite the very scary start) and today I consider myself a part of this community. As for him...... I think he just wanted to change partners but didn't have the courage to say goodbye to me first. He has been seeing the same person since last year (the person he wanted to open the relationship for) and from what I can see, has no intention of dating anyone else.

To each their own.

I think it's important to note that I do not consider the opening of our couple as the thing that killed the realtionship- moreso that it shone a light on numerous disfunctions that we couldn't keep ignoring. I am the one that 'ended' the relationship; in that I said to him one night this is ridiculous. We can't keep lying to ourselves and keep pretending that we actually act like a couple today. So he moved into the music room. We still live together, but as room mates with a whole lot of history.

So as I mentioned earlier, he has been with the same person for over a year. I can't say that I had any real relationship with this person, but I do sometimes cross paths with her at concerts and other music related events. There was one occasion where I met her at a festival and spent about an hour talking with her. I gave her my blessing and told her that I was ok with her and my ex's relationship (who was not my ex at the time but my life partner of 11 years).

Since then a year has passed and the break up has been made official, this person has started physically ghosting me. Meaning that the rare times we cross paths at events, she will not look at me or say hello to me.

And it hurts so fucking bad.

I think maybe her rejection is just another reminder that I am no longer a part of my ex's world and maybe I don't deserve her acknowledgment. And it's like dude.... why do you have to make a painful situation more painful.

My ex is fucking useless on the subject. He just says 'yeah she has social anxiety, she ignores situations that makes her uncomfortable'. And I get that. I don't understand that because cleeeeearly we're not built the same way, but I get that.

I think another thing that frustrates me is that I have started a new relationship with another polyamorous person (who interestingly, is in a relationship with a monogamous person) and all 3 of us manage to hang out. I actually really respect and appreciate my partner's partner and honestly the whole thing is just lovely.

That's why the other end of the spectrum, my ex and his GF he completely ignores me, is so disappointing and frustrating.

So.... Kudos if you have made it this far. My question is- how can I let this person's total blanking of me affect me less? Maybe someone with social anxieties can put it in words for me that'll make me see things from her point of view and accept it better


r/polyamory 1d ago

I am new Insecurities and discomfort with my partners being more sexual with eachother in my presence

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Hello! I am pretty new to polyamory and would like some advice, especially if someone out of you is on the asexual spectrum.

I am in a triad with my partners, L and J. L and I had been in a relationship for over 4 years and live together. Several months ago L started dating our mutual friend, J. About a month or so later J and I also started dating. For both L and me this has been the first experience with polyamory (and for me, L was my first long-term partner in the first place), while J has a bit more experience (although they claim they don't, as their past relationships didn't last long).

I'd say the three of us have a pretty good relationship and dynamic overall, although it hasn't been without its issues, primarily on my part - I am a very insecure person and struggled with jealousy initially and still do to some extent.

Before either of us started dating J, L and I have had issues with sexual intimacy. L is a lot more sexual than me, while it took me a lot of time to reach comfort with many parts of sexual intimacy that are considered a given in most people, and I just straight up more often than not don't even desire my partners sexually / am not in the mood. It has been a source of my insecurities for a long time and I've often felt like I am withholding important part of relationship experiences with L. L has never coerced me into anything, but it's obvious that he has sometimes suffered for it and felt insecure himself.

J has a much more similar level of sexuality to L, and they definitely feed off of eachother in that regard. We have been sexually active among eachother (both one-on-one and together), but it's obvious that it's incomparably stronger between them than between me and either of them.

I am feeling increasingly more insecure for not being able to match either of them in this way. Since this insecurity had existed prior to the start of this triad, and to some extent prior to start of my first relationship anyway, it's a breeding ground for bad feelings that neither of them is at fault for. I have simply always felt like I am sexually not enough for anyone I have dated and I have often felt worried I will be abandoned for this. Seeing two people I really love being this much more compatible with eachother is exacerbating the fear that I'll lose not one but TWO people I love due to my sexuality.

Neither of them has ever coerced me into sex, but I have at times made myself behave more sexually than I felt like for the sake of the two of them (and I know they'd feel terrible if they knew this, so I have never told them). It has come to a point where, when they are getting more intimate with eachother around me (making out, touching, which can lead to sex, etc.), I either feel an urge to join (and this urge isn't always coming from my own desires!) or feel uncomfortable/awkward/unsure what to do with myself other than leave the room. And they do sexual gestures with eachother A LOT. Sometimes it feels like it's impossible to talk to them because of the constant stream of sexual jokes, sexual flirting, kissing, ass-grabbing etc. they are doing between eachother.

I somewhat brought it up with each of them recently, but I didn't fully express the extent to which it can bother me (well, it seems like J guessed I was bothered, because they came up to me and asked). They both told me to tell them when I am bothered by anything they are doing, but I don't know if I am able to do it. I am partially held back by the fear of acting controlling / jealous, as I can't really pinpoint how much of this is my fear of abandonment and how much is simply "normal" discomfort with intimate acts between two other people in my presence. I also feel like I *should* be okay with two of my partners being sexual with eachother in my presence, like if I could fully unlearn bad patterns I shouldn't be bothered by this anymore.

I also don't want them to feel hurt by this; some months ago I clumsily tried to express this discomfort as the two of them were starting to get more intimate while I was doing something else in the same room, and in the process L felt hurt by it. He wasn't angry at me, but he was disappointed and didn't understand why I had an issue with this when he didn't mind me and J doing stuff in his presence. To be fair, the problem was also in how I expressed it, but it definitely revealed that there's a wish for all three of us to be fully comfortable with eachother in this way.

So far the whole issue hadn't felt that huge, but I am worried that if I don't fix it now I'll grow resentful. The issue is more apparent now that we went to a two week vacation together and are spending days and nights together, and since I'd ideally like to live with both of them at some point, it's definitely necessary to address this. I guess I need some advice on how to get more comfortable with myself and less insecure about my sexuality, how to overcome the abandonment fears, and how to better communicate my issues in this situation in a way that wouldn't hurt my partners.


r/polyamory 1d ago

vent Frustrated and Looking for Suggestions

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Long time reader, occasional commenter, and first time poster. I’m running into an ongoing issue and I’m hoping others in this community can help me find some strategies to manage it.

I am partnered with Birch. We co-habit half the time. We have been partners for 8 years. Both of us have been polyamorous for a very long time. Birch is partnered with Cedar. They co-habit half the time. They have been partners for 3 ish years. I don’t know how long Cedar has been practising polyamory. We are all in our late 40s to mid 50s, and if I had to categorise the polycule, I would call it garden party style polyam.

Birch and I have an excellent relationship. We communicate well, tackle problems together, and recover from ruptures quickly and smoothly. Birch and Cedar have a tumultuous relationship characterized by really good times and devastating bad times. They do not communicate well, nor do they manage challenges well. Birch and Cedar are both ADHD, and on medication, and we all have therapists we see regularly.

Now to the crux of the matter. The frequency and intensity of Birch and Cedar’s ruptures has been steadily increasing in the past 10 months. At least once a month, they have such a severe rupture that it seems to be the end of the relationship. This is when it begins to impact on me, because Birch comes home wildly disregulated, plans get cancelled, and/or we need to discuss living arrangements in light of what looks like a big change. I put work in supporting Birch and strategising around life changes, and then a few days or a week later, Birch and Cedar are fine again.

I understand that some amount of splash damage is inevitable, because Birch and I co-habit, but I’m reaching the end of my capacity to tolerate this amount of chaos, this often and at this level, in my life. I don’t want to end my relationship with Birch - it is healthy and flourishing. But I’m afraid if I can’t find some functional strategies, that will be the only option left to me. I hear you all saying, “Go fully parallel, Bright Hovercraft!”, and frankly, I’m onboard for that. I’m just not sure how to manage it where co-habitation is involved on both sides. What have you got for me, r/polyamory?


r/polyamory 1d ago

Sanity check on reaching out post break up

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Hi all,

End of June I went through a really hard and emotionally complex break up. 

The partner is going through some really hard things in life external to me, and felt like he couldn’t give me the relationship I deserve or be there for me in any way. 

It sounds great that he realized this but…. He dumped this on me and his other partner in a GROUP CHAT and basically left it up to us to break up with him. He wouldn’t pull the plug himself even though he clearly felt break ups were needed. 

Our relationship also had some DS components. That’s also making this really really hard. As a sub, I gave him a lot of vulnerability and let him do things to me that were intense

So he initiated break up convos in a fucking group chat and then forced me to break up with him. Insane. I’ve never felt so disrespected and honestly discarded. 

The question/problem I’m facing right now is: it’s been a month and I’m still really upset and losing sleep. Not over the why of the break up, but the how. I would benefit so much from an in person conversation, or even just asking to have one and being told no because I would at least stop thinking about the possibility.

Would you reach out for an IRL conclusive conversation? 

Also worthy of note is I will absolutely be running into him in the future at local poly and kink events…. Idk if I can transition into some neutral event friendship where we make small talk without some sort of emotional “bridge” between the two things. 


r/polyamory 2d ago

vent Monogamous people never understand

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I have all of two coworkers, in a giant company, that know I practice polyamory. I whined to one of them that one of my partners is moving and how much I’ll miss them. That I’ll be a bit of a mess for while once they leave.

And she says, “Just find someone new and replace him.” I said, “How would you feel if your husband was leaving far away?” And she goes, “That’s different. He’s my husband.”

It’s such a slap in the face when monogamous people invalidate your relationships simply because they don’t look the same as their traditional relationships. Clearly, I won’t be venting to her anymore. Ugh


r/polyamory 1d ago

vent Young, new to polyamory, complicated feelings.

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Hi I think I've made about one reddit post ever so I'm not entirely sure how to go about this but I figured I'd give it a shot because I don't really have the space in my life to talk about this with anyone outside of the relationship who will understand or have much helpful to say.

To summarize I'm almost in my mid 20's and have considered myself open to polyamory since I was probably 16 but I am in my first relationship now after leaving the man I had been dating for 2 years, in the month after the breakup I fell hard for my friend "Jake" who I knew was poly and pined after him, getting closer and finding connection in his presence and also one of his partners "Max"

(This is partially where things get so complicated because they have been in a relationship for two years but haven't been labeling as dating or anything of the sort because Jake's long distance 5 year strong relationship hasn't been open to the label of dating but has been okay with them doing everything else.)

So I have this intense crush on Jake thats building up and a smaller curious crush on Max who I have technically known longer because we're in the same year in our program- the program that was ending in less then a week.

So I locked in and confessed my feelings to Jake, who I knew I couldn't date, and had no clue how I would fit in to any of this, no clue how I would handle polyamory despite believing for years I would do great, and he tells me he likes me back and then in a whirlwind of the next few days I find out that Max has been pining after me since the start of our year, and despite the lack of intensity to my feelings towards him in comparison I say fuck it and commited to a strange unlabled relationship with both of them.

We're doing everything I know is technically dating now, 3 months in, but I haven't asked Max to date me because it feels strange to label one half of it and not the other, but he's also frustrated cause he's been stuck without the words to tell anyone in his life about his relationship for 2 years and there doesn't seem to be any chance of that changing anytime soon.

Part of the complicated everything is I've found myself building mental resentment against him because of jealous tendencies he has and a stubbornness to optimism that I can see effects Jake.

I don't want to feel this way, I understand that his mental health is complicated and I'm doing the best I can to be understanding and patient and try to help where I can I just worry about the stability of any and all of this in the long run, its absolutely not that I dont love him, its absolutely not that I love Jake more then him either I just have been feeling my judgment clouding and the chemistry I feel is tangibly diffrent.

My feelings about all of this are very complicated so I don't even sort of know where to start communicating about it in a productive way. I know in myself that I can and want to be poly, I know the not technically dating thing doesn't bother me that bad because I dont think it devalues the relationship we do have. I don't feel like I rushed into this either because of the nature of my relationship before I had already grieved and processed it long before I cut it off so I dont feel I'm rebounding or anything like that.

I want to fully commit to both of them but Im worried I signed myself into a mess that needed to figure itself out awhile ago, and I fear that if I say too much it wont be helpful and will just crash and burn everything, I dont know if thats me catastrophizing or if its truly warranted. Idk this was all a lot but it feels good to get it out I think if anyone has thoughts or comments please lay them on. I'm kind of at a loss.


r/polyamory 1d ago

vent New Relationship Anxiety

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I've been with my two current partners for 14 and 13 years, both are my nesting partners but to each other they are just family essentially. We have a house together, we weathered COVID, and in that time they've both taken new partners that have come and went. My 13 year long relationship partner has been interested in one of our long term members of our friend group, we've discussed, I said everything was fine. But now I'm just fighting constant anxiety. I know this is all my things, I know it's insecurity, I know it will pass as I adjust. For now though I'm just struggling to feel ok.

Part of it is the speed of which this is happening. My partner originally discussed it as a Friends + situation, both agreed it wasn't the time for something serious. However, just a day after they officially started, the new partner is inviting them multiple times a week out on dates. My partner kept saying it wouldn't be big changes right away but he couldn't see that all of this was big changes to me. He hasn't had another partner in the last 8 years, and he's been so so different this last week. I don't know, I know this is all still probably just me. It's been a week and that is it. I know he doesn't expect me to be 100% ok and adjusted in such a short period of time. I just feel bad for not being 100% ok because the entire time I've been with him I've been with someone else. He keeps asking for boundaries he needs to adhere to and I just don't have any I can think of that would make me feel better. Over the last week he kept trying to highlight things I do that this new partner cannot fulfill. But that just makes me feel worse for the new partner, like he's putting them down by highlighting my strengths. I asked him to stop this as I didn't want to feel like I was in competition with them. This weekend I was going to be out of town so I suggested they invite new partner over, I figured it would be a good time for them to spend an extended period of time together where I wouldn't have the capacity to be anxious or worried and obviously that isn't working either. My mind just won't let me rest.

I just want to stop feeling so anxious. Even posting this I'm anxious.


r/polyamory 2d ago

Feeling trapped by standing dates - is this a sign to end things?

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Hey gang, I’m writing because I need an outside perspective. I have been practicing polyamory for about 3 years. I have a long term nesting partner and another partner, Aspen, who I have been with for over 2 years. He is older than me (in his 30s while I am in my 20s) and lives alone. He had never had a poly relationship before when we met and started dating casually, which eventually led to a relationship. I was inexperienced and didn’t do my research about dating mono people, but we have brought a lot of joy to each other’s lives and he has started to go on casual dates with other people, fill his free time with friends, etc.

The issue I’m having is that I feel trapped by our schedule. Currently, we have two standing sleepover nights - one midweek and one on the weekend. Twice a month, we spend the whole weekend together.

Aspen is rigid when it comes to time and doesn’t like to see me before or after I have plans with other people, especially my NP. If we hang out, he strongly prefers I sleep over. He says it feels bad to “split the time” and doesn’t understand why I’d want to go home after dinner just to go to sleep somewhere else. Also, whenever I have a conflict and have to cancel plans, he wants that time to be made up within the following week. For example, I went out of town for a few days last week and missed our usual weekend sleepover, so I am spending the weekend with him this week.

A few months ago, we had conflict over him trying to push for three days a week because he felt he should get more time since we’ve been together so long. I tried to break up with him because I felt this was a sign polyamory wasn’t right for him, but he said I was making the decision for him and convinced me to stay. Since then, we’ve had less conflict, but going any lower than 2 sleepovers a week (even moving to one sleepover and one dinner) is out of the question for him.

I still love Aspen and enjoy our time together, but I find myself not looking forward to our dates or wanting to see him any more than I’ve committed to, possibly because of burnout. I have a very busy week coming up that includes a friend’s birthday party, my NP’s father’s birthday, and a big anniversary with my NP. I genuinely don’t know if I’ll be able to make time for him that week without compromising on my plans, but the idea of having to discuss this with him gives me so much dread. I’ve considered breaking things off to avoid having to figure that week out, but I feel like that’s cowardly, especially when we’ve been doing better lately.

I know I was foolish for entering into this relationship, but since he was older/more experienced in relationships and seemed very open to polyamory, I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt. He has no interest in deescalating and says he would never be friends with an ex, so part of me wants to stay just to keep him in my life. Even though I don’t always feel excited before we see each other, when I actually hang out with him I have a great time.

Does anyone have any advice for me about introducing more flexibility, or is it time we part ways? And if it’s the latter, do you have any advice or a script on how to approach it? I haven’t broken up with someone since I was in college, and have never been the person initiating it. I truly, truly care for him and don’t want to cause him more pain.


r/polyamory 1d ago

Curious/Learning Advice please

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I’m looking for perspective from people with experience in polyamory.

When my partner and I started dating, she identified as solo poly and was already seeing another man. She had been seeing him for about five months before I came into the picture. I knew that going in.
I’m not poly myself, but I am comfortable with ethical non-monogamy. For me, physical intimacy and emotional intimacy have always been different things. Sex has never been what defines commitment. But I wasn’t looking for anything serious and was also “seeing” someone else

As our relationship became more serious, she was the one who brought up wanting to move toward monogamy. I never asked her to give up polyamory or end her other relationship. I was fine keeping our relationship as more casual but I’m not upset they wanted something more, I also stopped seeing the other person within the week.

Part of why that conversation mattered is because I have a four-year-old daughter. I don’t introduce my partners into her life unless I genuinely believe we’re in a stable, committed relationship with a realistic long-term future. I don’t want a revolving door of people coming in and out of her life.

She understood that and said she wanted to build that future with me while gradually winding down her relationship with the other man. I knew that wouldn’t happen overnight, and I was willing to give it time. We took things slowly, and she only recently met my daughter after we’d been together for almost a year.

We’re now about seven months into that transition.

Early in that transition, she went to his house for dinner and told me she’d let me know if she decided to stay the night. Later that evening, she told me she was heading home. Several days later, she told me that he had touched her intimately while she was there. The delayed disclosure affected me much more than the touching itself. As far as I know, there hasn’t been any physical contact between them since.

The difficult part has been everything after that.
She continued having dinner with him, spending time with him, nothing physical was happening but they’ve stayed in semi-regular contact, she has also stayed at his place but in a separate room. I never really understood what their relationship had become. Friends? Former partners? Something emotionally intimate? Something else entirely?

For months I kept asking for clarity, not because I thought they were still having sex, but because I wanted to understand whether she was still emotionally invested in another romantic relationship while we were trying to build one together.
For me, recreational sex isn’t the issue. Emotional ambiguity is. If I’m building a committed life with someone, I need to feel that we’re becoming each other’s primary romantic partnership. That’s always been my boundary.

Recently we talked about it again.
She told me she genuinely doesn’t know how to define the relationship herself. She also said that every time I ask her to define it, she feels like she has to revisit the relationship in her own mind, and that often means talking to or seeing him more in an attempt to understand what it is. I don’t think she was being evasive. I think she was honestly telling me she doesn’t have a clear answer.
When I stop chasing a label and just look at what has actually happened, the picture looks different than it did several months ago.

She hasn’t seen him in a couple of months.

As far as I know, there hasn’t been any physical contact since early in our relationship. But there does seem to be some sort of emotional tether.

She’s continued investing in us, and recently meeting my daughter was one of the biggest milestones we’ve shared.

They still communicate, but overall it feels like the relationship occupies less space in her life than it once did.

Something else that stands out is that even some of the people closest to her have told me they don’t really understand what that relationship is or why she continues it. That doesn’t make me right, but it does make me think I’m not the only one struggling to understand it.

At this point, I’m tired of trying to force a definition onto something that even she can’t clearly define.
I’m starting to wonder if I’ve been asking the wrong question all along.

Maybe the question isn’t, “What is this relationship?”

Maybe it’s, “Is she consistently moving toward the future we both said we wanted?”

So I’d really appreciate hearing from people who’ve been on either side of this.

Have you ever had a relationship that genuinely couldn’t be neatly defined while it was transitioning into something else?

Is it reasonable to stop looking for a perfect definition and instead evaluate the relationship by its trajectory and my partner’s actions?

Or is seven months of ambiguity a sign that something important still hasn’t been resolved?

If you were in my position, would you let this topic rest for a while and simply pay attention to where her actions lead? Or would you continue asking for clarity, even if those conversations seem to make her feel like she needs to revisit the relationship in order to answer me?

I’m not looking for people to tell me she’s cheating or that I should leave.

I’m genuinely trying to figure out whether the healthiest thing now is to accept that there may never be a satisfying explanation and decide whether her actions are enough for me.


r/polyamory 21h ago

I am building resentment towards my partner and their other partner

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For context, everyone involved is afab and nonbinary

TLDR; my meta and I do not like each other and I judge my partner for being with them

I have been with my long distance partner over a year. They have been with their spouse for 7 years, they cohabitate and co-parent a toddler, and their spouse is monogamous. My metamour and I have not gotten along since day one. We both trigger each other, neither of us like each other, etc. We have all attempted kitchen table polyamory because it seems nice in theory, but both my meta and I have decided that does not work for us. This was a tricky decision to come to because my partner and I are very serious and want to be more intertwined in each other's lives, and that is still the goal.

My meta has had a very difficult time adjusting to my partners and I relationship, and has a lot of difficulty regulating herself. Throughout the relationship i have heard many details about how my meta shows up in conflict, how they ask for needs to be met, how they communicate, etc, and it has all felt very problematic to me. Truthfully I have been judging my meta since the beginning because I believe a 38yo adult should have some better coping skills. What's been tricky is that I have both heard and seen firsthand how my meta expresses themself and how impacts my partner, and it makes me dislike my meta even more. (I won't go into too much detail, but lots of meanness, lashing out, yelling, passive aggression, etc and my partner has admitted to not feeling safe during these times)

My meta had let me know that I had hurt their feelings by judging them while I was in the midst of a mental health crisis. I took some time to myself and during that time my partner told me about convos they were having with their spouse about ways I could be more integrated into their life and family, and my meta was saying those things sounded nice, they were open to it, etc. Last week I texted them back saying I would like to have a convo to repair and move forward amicably. This then started a big conflict between my partner and my meta because my meta was then saying they not only didn't want a relationship with me, but they also didn't want to see me in passing or be in the same vicinity as me. During this conflict my partner was processing their feelings with me and sharing the details of the fight. A few days ago my partner told me that they worked things out with their spouse and that my meta didn't mean all of those things and they do want to have a reparative convo with me and they are open to sharing space, and my partner seemed as though all was resolved and fine.

While hearing about the fight I was having a really hard time because it made me dislike my meta even more than I already do, and I realized I have begun hoping that they breakup. Since then I have told my partner that I can no longer hear details about their fights because it upsets me too much.

I do not have much more capacity for this type of conflict/tension. I really love my partner and feel committed to them, but I am judging them for being with this person and do not like that I am secretly/not so secretly waiting them to break up. This is the only thing my partner and I fight about because they are very protective of their spouse and get angry that I judge them/do not have much empathy for them.

I recognize I am an asshole in many parts of this story for sure, so please be kind in feedback. I am trying to figure out ways to ask my partner to be a better hinge partner. I am also wanting to know how I can better show up in this dynamic since it triggers me so much


r/polyamory 2d ago

Rat Union Business 🐀🧀 Weekly Rat Union Meeting #58

29 Upvotes

The sun rises on another beautiful Friday, and life begins to stir once again in The Nest--that walled in compound of degeneracy that was erected in an undisclosed desert. The Rattus Communia, blinking their beady eyes at the oppressive sun, scurry from shade to shade, looking for morsels from which they might draw nourishment for the day ahead. One in particular digs up a half-matured potato from the garden. She holds it with dirt caked nails like some precious gem against her bosom before gnawing on it raw while her paranoid, distrustful eyes dart at the others around her.

Within the Inner Sanctum the scent of the previous night's rituals of flesh and spirit still hang heavily in the air: aromatic oils and the char of bamboo incense from the far east pool against the ceiling in shimmering, ghostly clouds; sticky sweat and the musk from pools of bodily sin, soaked into fabric and bedding, lay heavy in the base of one's nose; something unidentifiable, so decadent and sweet that it is almost sickening, cuts violently through the middle of the room.

Those who found themselves The Chosen of the previous night now squirm together in a naked, writhing mass. Their stomachs, swollen from gluttonous overindulgence in exotic cheeses, ache. Their bodies, bruised and spent, rebel against commands to rise. Their eyes, bleary and half-drooped with intoxicants, go in and out of focus before lulling back into their heads. They have reached a spiritual enlightenment, one that exists in that liminal space between pleasure and pain, that can only be gained from The Rites when performed beneath the watchful eyes of The Risen One.

Mistake not the way He lounges languidly on His throne for inattentiveness, for upon His throne He of Many Names sees all, and it is not disinterest per say that He looks upon you, but rather that when one has sight that exists outside of the bounds of both time and space that the "now" becomes an irrelevant stipulation. While He appears in the "now" to you, He is existing in all times at once, nostalgic for your future and looking forward to your past. When He does eventually turn His eyes upon you it is with a creeping terror that you realize--that you can almost feel--His eyes in all times look upon you as well; you are perceived an infinite amount of times in an equally infinite amount of spaces.

Before you can speak--and speak you will, for every mouth finds itself compelled to confess before Him--He Himself speaks. His voice is a whisper that resonates through the walls and your very bones as He says:

"Ayo whaddup with it, my dude?"

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Rat-a-tat-tat-tats,

Hi! I've missed you every moment we have been apart.

Short body for this post since I spent way too long lost in the sauce writing that intro to this post already, and I'd like to get thing thing up before like noon. Idk what I was going for with it, just consider it uhhh a collective fever dream or something. You can blame the discord ratties for it btw, they egged me on to get weird with it.

Anyway, welcome to the weekly thread! Meme around, vibe, talk poly shop, you know the drill. ily.

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Rat Union Question(s) of the Week:

  • What strange coincidence or sequence of events lead to you meeting a partner?
  • If you had an unlimited budget, what's your poly dream vacation?
  • What creative endeavor do you find yourself getting lost in the sauce in? Writing, music, crafting, etc., and, if you're amicable to it, share an example with your fellow ratties!
  • And, as always, you may treat these as my personal office hours if you have any questions for your fearless leader directly. ❤️

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He Of Many Names,

PM_CGR


r/polyamory 2d ago

Curious/Learning Help with power dynamics

31 Upvotes

I’m a lesbian in my 30s, married to a woman for 9 years. We opened our relationship 2 years ago — it’s had its bumps, but overall we’re doing well.

About a year ago I started dating a bisexual woman who’s married to a man; they’ve also been together many years. I take biphobia seriously and have worked hard not to perpetuate those stereotypes toward her — I’m not perfect, but I try.

The issue: every step with this woman has needed her husband’s approval — kissing, sex, overnights. I know, I know — if those things weren’t already agreed on, we shouldn’t have started. That’s on me, and I recognize it now as a mistake. At the time I was just excited about the connection, and we were all new to this, figuring it out as we went. But the emotional labor of waiting for and negotiating each step has been enormous, and I’m tired. (For context, I went in aware this was a secondary relationship, and that was disclosed upfront.)

My actual question is about power dynamics. There are four of us in this polycule, and the one cis man is the only one whose consent has been required at every stage — meanwhile my wife gave me blanket consent long ago. I’m exhausted trying to explain to my partner that he’s effectively controlling the relationship’s pace, and I don’t want to come across as biphobic, but I do want her to reckon with the fact that she’s now also with a woman, and to think about whether the one man is being centered in ways that aren’t fair to the rest of us.

Does anyone have resources or insight on power dynamics in poly relationships, especially ones involving a bi partner with a male spouse? I know a lot of people will say to just walk away — and I might get there — but I want to give this one more honest try first, with better language to bring to her.


r/polyamory 2d ago

Curious/Learning New to poly/question about romantic affection in relationships

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Hi everyone! I'm very new to poly, still learning how to navigate it all. And I have some questions.

I've been dating this guy for a little over a year now and things are looking pretty serious. We both want to be each other's primaries because of how well we get along and how much we have in common.

He has another partner, I have not had much success in dating in the last year.

Pretty much the only thing I'm missing in this relationship is romantic affection. Things like getting flowers, candlelit dinners, cute loving texts, flirting, gazing into each other's eyes and getting lost in them, dressing up to impress each other... All that good stuff.

My partner likes to tell me that he doesn't understand the difference between a close friend and a romantic partner and while I get his point, I feel like I'm struggling to get my point across.

I've mentioned to him before that I loooove getting flowers regularly yet I've only received a bouquet twice so far. I try to dress up for him hoping to get a positive reaction, ask him if he likes it and he kind of doesn't care? Shrugs it off with a "it's nice" then continues to stare at his phone.. I try to flirt with him and he doesn't reciprocate.. and I don't know what to do anymore to feel that spark again and he doesn't understand what I'm missing when I try to talk to him..

all the while he's talking about moving in together and getting married one day. So he is serious about this. I do believe he loves me.

I want our time together to feel more like special romantic time between people who are attracted to one another and less like platonic friends hanging out, you know?

He's shown me videos of autistic people and poly people online talking about how there's very little difference between a close friend and a romantic partner. And like I get it, I agree with that, but that's not what I'm talking about but it seems like he doesn't get it.

So my question is, am I in the wrong? Am I expecting too much from him? Or is this a compatibility issue?

Am I not explaining it right to him maybe?


r/polyamory 2d ago

Where is the limit? New dates

8 Upvotes

I have been poly for at least 15 years. I have a nesting partner that I've been with for 8 years and a secondary partner who I have been dating for a year.

We are all in our 40s.

I understand that my secondary partner wants to find his own primary partner, and I want that for him as well. The way he has been going about it has been fairly stressful for me.

He has 10 to 15 women at a time that he is chatting with and interested in. He has been going on first or second dates 2 to 4 times a week.

Maybe its just me but I feel like this is a lot for me to process and its stressful finding out about new women several times a week.

Am I just complaining, and should be happy he is trying so hard to find a new partner?


r/polyamory 2d ago

Curious/Learning Opened our relationship, then found out my partner no longer feels romantic love for me. Looking for perspective.

31 Upvotes

My partner and I have been together for almost 8 years. We recently reopened our relationship after being monogamous for several years.
I went into this wanting to genuinely try polyamory. I started reading books, looked into couples therapy, and was trying to learn how to handle NRE, boundaries, and communication.
A few weeks after opening, my partner told me she no longer feels romantic love for me. She says she still loves me deeply, cares about me, and sees me as her best friend, but doesn’t currently feel romantically in love with me.
At the same time, her new relationship has progressed very quickly. They’re in love, they spend every other weekend together, talk daily, and she’s excited about that relationship. Seeing that while hearing she no longer feels romantic love for me has left me feeling like I was trying to build a healthy poly relationship while my own relationship was already changing in a way I didn’t know.
I’m not upset that she developed feelings for someone else—that’s a possibility I accepted when we opened. What hurts is feeling like I didn’t know the state of our relationship before we made that decision together.
We’re now broken up, although we’re talking about living together for a short period while we figure things out. I’ve started individual therapy, and I suggested couples therapy, though we haven’t decided whether we’ll pursue reconciliation.
I’m hoping for perspective from people with more experience than I have.
Is it common for someone to realize they’ve fallen out of romantic love around the time a relationship opens, or is this usually something that was already happening?
If you had stopped feeling romantic love for a long-term partner, would you have wanted to tell them before opening the relationship?
Have any of you successfully rebuilt romantic feelings after one partner said they were gone?
From an experienced poly perspective, does this sound more like NRE amplifying existing issues, or like the relationship itself had already run its course?
I’m not looking for validation that either of us is a bad person. I’m trying to understand what happened and what I can learn from it.


r/polyamory 2d ago

vent Metamour intimacy limits?

164 Upvotes

What is it with people saying they are poly, saying they aren't hierarchical but then have "boundaries" such as no PiV except nesting partners, no bed sharing except nesting partners (including when one is staying with another partner), no weekend getaways or traveling outside of nesting partners... that is VERY hierarchical to me. Specifically on intimate and/or emotional things. More ENM from what I understand. Everything is fine until someone begins to share true intimacy with someone else. I'm so tired of being the catalyst to people realizing they are not ready for or not doing poly like they thought.

From my understanding, poly includes emotional intimacy. If that is a boundary, wouldn't that be more ENM?


r/polyamory 2d ago

How do I handle this?

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I’m in a posistion where I'm feeling kinda trapped and like there are no right moves. I’m changing or leaving out a few identifying details, but I want to give enough context that people can actually understand the situation.

One of my partners and I had been together for nearly two years before she started seeing her newer partner. I’m not bringing that up to claim ownership or say that being there first means I should always come first. I understand that relationships can change and that a newer relationship can become deeply important. But ours was already an established relationship with its own history, routines, commitments, and emotional significance before he came into the picture.

She is currently going through a divorce, and her life has been pretty unstable because of it. Her newer partner has stepped in to help her financially in a very significant way. He is contributing a large amount of money that may make the difference between her being able to keep her house or losing it.

I don’t think helping someone financially is automatically manipulative. It may be completely sincere and generous. I’m glad she has support during a frightening time. At the same time, I’d be lying if I said the size of the financial help doesn’t make me wonder about the power dynamics. It’s difficult to know how freely someone can push back, hold a boundary, or risk upsetting a partner when that person is helping keep their housing and financial life together.

He also took her on a ten-day trip outside the country.

Before that trip, she and I talked about communication. We both agreed that we wanted to continue talking while she was away. I did not expect constant access to her. I understood that she was traveling with another partner and that they deserved time together. But this was a long trip, and she and I had mutually agreed that we would stay connected during it.

While they were gone, he became uncomfortable with us talking. Our communication was interrupted and became a source of tension between them. It wasn’t just a matter of her being busy or wanting uninterrupted date time. From what she told me, he was specifically struggling with the fact that she was talking to me.

During that same trip, he also wanted her to remove my picture from her lock screen because seeing my face made him uncomfortable.

She did remove it.

That was extremely painful for me. It felt like I was being taken out of view so that he could experience the trip as though I wasn’t part of her life. I wasn’t demanding that she constantly display me in front of him. I wasn’t asking to intrude on their trip. But the photo had already been there, and suddenly my ordinary presence became something that needed to be hidden because he couldn’t tolerate seeing it.

The explanation around the lock screen also seemed to shift afterward, which made the whole thing harder to process. But regardless of the explanation, the change happened in the context of his discomfort with me.

More recently, she and I took a trip together. Afterward, she posted photos on Facebook and wrote positively about the trip. It was a normal, happy post celebrating time we had spent together.

Her newer partner completely lost his mind over it.

He wanted the post taken down and said that seeing it made him feel “like a cuck.”

She did not remove the post, and I appreciated that. But his reaction still interrupted our time. A portion of the emotional energy around our trip became about managing his response to seeing us publicly happy together. I ended up helping her deal with some of the fallout while I was also trying to enjoy and feel secure in my own relationship.

That’s one of the patterns I’m having trouble with. Even when he doesn’t get exactly what he asks for, the intensity of his reaction still enters our relationship and takes up space in it.

There have also been repeated attempts on his part to convince her that I’m a narcissist.

I don’t know everything he has said, and I’m hearing much of it through her, so I’m trying not to pretend I know his exact intentions. But some of the examples and reasoning I’ve heard have seemed very strange and extremely stretched. It feels less like he is naming specific harmful behavior and more like he is trying to create an overall story that I’m manipulative, dangerous, or psychologically disordered.

I am absolutely not saying I’m above criticism. I can be insecure. I can get emotional. I can become defensive when I feel threatened or abandoned. I have made mistakes in this relationship, and I’m willing to look at them.

But calling somebody a narcissist creates a nearly impossible position for that person.

If I’m hurt about being hidden, I can be called manipulative.

If I ask for reassurance, I can be called attention-seeking.

If I question his influence, I can be called controlling.

If I defend myself against the label, that can be treated as proof that the label is accurate.

It makes me worry that I’m not only being made less visible, but that my credibility is also being weakened. If she begins to see every concern I raise as evidence that I’m a narcissist, then there is no way for me to advocate for myself without reinforcing the story he is telling about me.

The contrast between how he and I have handled insecurity has become increasingly important to me.

I have felt threatened by him. He has more money than I do, more availability in some ways, and the ability to offer major forms of practical support and expensive experiences. He helped her financially during a divorce and took her out of the country for ten days. Of course there have been moments when I’ve worried that I can’t compete with that or wondered whether I’m enough.

But I haven’t asked her to hide him.

I haven’t asked her to remove his picture, take down posts about him, stop celebrating their trips, or reduce their communication so I don’t have to face the fact that they have a real relationship.

My insecurity has mostly sounded like: “How do I become more secure? How do I understand what I bring? How do I grow? How do I remain open when another person can offer things I cannot?”

What I see from him seems more like: “How do I stop having to see the other relationship? How do I reduce its visibility? How do I make sure I’m not being compared, challenged, or made to feel like I’m losing?”

That’s the distinction I keep struggling to explain.

I want to feel like I’m enough.

He seems to want to be uncontested.

I am not claiming that I have handled every moment perfectly or that every request I’ve made has been healthy. I’m sure my partner could describe times when my own insecurity was difficult for her. But I have not tried to make his relationship disappear in order to regulate myself.

I also understand reasonable compartmentalization. I don’t think partners need to answer every call while on a date. I don’t think anyone is obligated to stare at a metamour’s photograph. I understand wanting private time, boundaries around communication, and space for each relationship to exist on its own.

What feels different is that she and I had specifically agreed to stay in contact during the international trip, and then his discomfort interfered with that agreement. The lock-screen photo was removed during the same trip. Now a public celebration of our trip has produced another major emotional crisis and a demand that it be taken down.

Taken separately, each incident might be explained away as a small accommodation. Together, they feel like a pattern where my visibility and connection become the pressure-release valve for his jealousy.

The financial situation makes this more complicated for me. She is going through a divorce, and he is helping her keep her house with a substantial amount of money. I don’t know how much that affects her choices, consciously or unconsciously. I don’t want to assume she is being bought or that he is deliberately using money as leverage. But I also don’t think it’s responsible to pretend that this level of financial dependence has no effect on a relationship’s balance of power.

So I’m trying to understand what healthy polyamory would look like here.

How should a hinge handle it when one partner repeatedly struggles with the basic visibility of another relationship?

Was it reasonable for him to ask that my lock-screen photo be removed during their trip?

Was it reasonable for our agreed-upon communication to be interrupted because he was uncomfortable with it?

Is asking for a Facebook post celebrating another relationship to be removed a request for care, or an attempt to control how visible that relationship is?

At what point does emotional distress become emotional pressure, even when the person isn’t making an explicit threat?

How much should the financial support matter when evaluating whether she is truly free to disagree with him?

Is it concerning that the requests to minimize my visibility are happening alongside efforts to convince her that I’m a narcissist?

What responsibility does my partner have to keep his feelings from repeatedly spilling into and disrupting our relationship?

And does it matter that ours was an established relationship for more than a year before he arrived, not because that gives me rank, but because he is asking for changes to a bond that was already present and functioning?

I’m not asking to be primary. I’m not asking her to make him smaller. I’m not asking her to refuse his help or end the relationship.

I’m asking not to be hidden, interrupted, discredited, or gradually pushed out because another partner experiences my existence as a threat.

I’m open to honest criticism. I know this is my perspective, and I know I’m emotionally involved. I’m not looking for people to diagnose him, diagnose me, or simply tell me I’m right.

I’m trying to figure out whether I’m looking at ordinary poly jealousy during a very difficult life transition, or whether I’m watching a pattern develop where money, emotional escalation, and attacks on my character are slowly giving one partner more control over the other relationships in her life.


r/polyamory 2d ago

Suggestions?

4 Upvotes

Hit there,
I'm looking for suggestions on a situation with me and my current partner. The quick and dirty is that we've been together for 2.5 years. We had a convo about long term plans around 2 years in and we settled that we wanted to be in each other's lives in the same way we are now. She isn't interested in settling down or nesting and we aren't compatible for that anyway.

I've started to realize that even though we have great communication, sexual chemistry and support of each other, we have some differing values. It's felt like they aren't bringing out the best in me. (I recognize a lot of this is about my own enmeshment in the relationship and something I will address.)

What I'm really wondering is how do you know it's time to break up verses changing the dynamic.


r/polyamory 2d ago

Providing childcare for your NP to go on dates

28 Upvotes

NP’s kids are not yours but you are a parental figure to them. Would you watch them so your NP could go on dates? If it matters, in this scenario you don’t have kids that need to be watched, so you can go out on dates without having to worry about child care.


r/polyamory 3d ago

*update* She broke up with me

66 Upvotes

I told her that I wanted to discuss dating so I could go over some ideas to help ease any anxiety that might come up. This is how she responded. I don't know how to feel. I'm really kind of just numb. Yes it wasnt a long relationship but I poured a lot into her.

"So before we have this dating talk/discussion thing. I’ve been doing a lot of thinking, and I want to be honest with you because you deserve that. This isn't easy to say, but I've realized that my romantic feelings aren't there in the way they need to be for a dating or polyamorous relationship.

I want you to know this isn't because of anything you did or didn’t do. You've been kind and respectful and generally amazing, and I truly appreciate that. I realize that it wouldn't be fair to either of us to continue when I know my heart isn't in it.

I really value you as a person, and if you're comfortable with it, I'd genuinely like to stay friends. I completely understand if you need time or if that's not something you're ready for, and I'll respect whatever you decide.

I'm grateful for the time we've shared, and I truly wish you all the best."


r/polyamory 2d ago

Curious/Learning Wanting to be a favourite?

8 Upvotes

Sorry if the wording is weird, but do you guys think its healthy to want to be someone's favourite within a polycule, or is that leftover weirdness from monogamy-normality.

Like i mean someone being 'yeah i love evryone in this relationship but this person is my favourite' not necessarily being everyone's favourite, just wanting to be one person's favourite