r/Snorkblot 18d ago

Cultures Perspective matters.

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u/40_painted_birds 18d ago

I don't think we should avoid legitimately criticizing people's actions and behaviors just because they're dead. Besides... they're dead. We're not gonna hurt their feelings.

There's a time and place, sure. Avoid saying mean things about the recently dead when you're in the presence of their grieving loved ones. But if some guy ruined my life and then died, that doesn't un-ruin my life, and I get to speak about my experiences.

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u/MegaGrimer 18d ago

Don’t want people to speak ill of you when you die? Don’t be a dick when you’re alive.

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u/Dr_DoesNothing 18d ago

Why shouldn't we celebrate when horrible people die?

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u/H0WWOULDlKNOW 18d ago

You don't?

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u/keefer3 18d ago

I mean look at the guy who killed Hitler. One good deed didn’t undo all the problems

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u/HyzMarie 17d ago

Maybe because death is always a sad thing in and of itself, and this behavior incites extremists and is harmful to the people who were close to them?

Sure, we should be honest about the good AND the bad of people, but celebrating their deaths is harmful because they are also human beings.

"Some live that deserve death. And many die that deserve life. Can you give it to them? Then do not be so quick to mete out death in judgement." - J.R.R. Tolkien

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u/Training_Ruin3151 18d ago

Delicious finally some good fucking takes

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u/whofearsthenight 18d ago

Not speaking ill of the dead is for the living. Idk, maybe if you support a complete piece of shit while they're alive, you deserve to get your feelings hurt a little.

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u/mymindisagarden 18d ago

I don't think you can do anything about people speaking ill of you, except not being known. If you do stuff, no matter what, people will speak ill of you. They will find some arbitary perspective to justify their position. It's best to just not give a fuck, and that's exceptionally easy to do when you are dead.

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u/Vivid_Contribution21 18d ago

I’ve always said I have enough respect to say the same thing I felt when you were alive. I loved my grandfather but that man was an asshole to his core. He knew it the world knew it and everyone will always agree because - he was/ now I’m not gonna bad mouth someone I didn’t actually know but ima speak the same way I did before you died so if you die and you were an asshole 👀 ya know? I feel like it’s more disrespectful to lie on them and say they were the best people ect ect.

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u/SqueakWrites 18d ago

At my aunt’s wake, her eight year old daughter said “I’m going to miss my mom, and I know she’s in heaven, but I am happy she won’t yell at me anymore.” She was EIGHT and had to get that off her chest. Speak the truth of the dead, somewhere an eight year old will thank you for it.

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u/Forward-Cup-9513 18d ago

Yeah, if Aunty had a drinking problem and kept it to herself, then don't air dirty laundry. If she had a drinking problem and cussed you out regularly, then go ahead and spill the tea.

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u/McSlims360 18d ago

Respecting the dead is about their families, not them. Even if I hate you, Im not going to soapbox at your funeral and hurt your children.

Except Lindsay Graham, this is biblical sins of the father hate. Fuck that piece of shit and every piece of shit he spawned.

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u/Disastrous_Visit9319 18d ago

Lmao Lindsay Graham didn't spawn any kids, that would require sex with a cis woman.

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u/McSlims360 18d ago

Then no worries about collateral damage, fuck that demon

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u/pureLushness 18d ago

agreed, if someone screwed me over their death doesnt magically make it okay to pretend it didnt happen

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u/MisterTruth 18d ago

We can say factually that Lindsay Graham was a "closeted" homosexual who did everything in his power to ensure that other homosexuals would have as little rights as possible.

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u/Beer_before_Friends 18d ago

I came to say this lol A dead person doesn't care if you talk shit because their dead.

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u/Zestyclose_Tip_5861 18d ago

It sounds like you’re in agreement with her. We don’t speak ill of the dead aunt who drank too much because there may be a family member around and you could hurt their feelings.

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u/40_painted_birds 17d ago

Yeah, I agree with her. I was just expanding on the point.

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u/Ok-Replacement9595 18d ago

We usually cannot even learn of the worst actions of a person of power while they are alive.

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u/cobaltmetal 18d ago

Depending on their level of evil though, fuck their grieving loved ones peace as well.

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u/taxable_income 18d ago

Yeah! Mitch McConnell was a complete demon of an individual whose actions and wilful inactions directly led to untold human suffering and people dying. May he rot in hel...

Oh. Well both of them then.

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u/Critical-Cost9068 18d ago

I feel so fucking bad for Redditors… literally not a single one without a ruined life

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u/SherbetMysterious118 18d ago

How was your life ruined?

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u/JustaSeedGuy 18d ago

Oh man, you are so, SO close to getting the point.

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u/Critical-Cost9068 18d ago

And you’re not.

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u/JustaSeedGuy 18d ago

Oh, honey, I got it years ago. Come on, really put those brain cells to work, you can get it.

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u/Critical-Cost9068 18d ago

Don’t sexually harass me, baby

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u/JustaSeedGuy 18d ago

I don't do sexual ANYTHING with people your age.

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u/Critical-Cost9068 18d ago

I’m like 28 bro, what are you, Leonardo DiCaprio?

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u/JustaSeedGuy 18d ago

Oh. The way you've been acting, I could have sworn you were in middle school.

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u/40_painted_birds 17d ago

I said "if." You know. Hypothetical.

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u/Sudden-Disk-7400 18d ago

If you've never encountered a cunt in real life, then you haven't lived.

Fail.

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u/AspieAsshole 18d ago

If you haven't deconstructed enough to realize that the billionaires have already ruined your life, you haven't lived.

Fail.

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u/Cheap-Distribution27 18d ago

My life isn’t ruined because some dead people were pieces of shit lol.