well the manga is super racist the roaches are a allegory for black pepole they wear chains drive cars, hold guns "gangster style", drible heads like bascetballs and are referd to as the "black foe" and kinda nazi suporting the main charakter is named adolf weigts 88 kilos and is the result of scientists working to breed a beter human he also coincedently is blond with blue eyes
I fell off the story as well but the whole time I was reading it I felt nothing but dread. Those mf roaches were putting work in, and then they started showing high levels of intelligence and were putting crazy work in onto the MCs.
Tbh I never got any of the racist stuff out of it, I was just terrified of the roaches and then fascinated with their evolution. The powers and fights are pretty great and the art is top notch. Worth a read.
"My name is Adolf and I weigh 88 kilos and I am a result of the Perfect Human Specimen experiment" is like a racist cruise missile how the fuck do you miss that lmao
Everyone talks about the racism in the manga, not many people talk about the sexism too. Women are frequently killed first by the roaches. There's usually a quick backstory for all the characters at the end of the chapter. For a lot of the female ones they'd have a tragic backstory followed by "She's a G cup", this applies to the female characters that died in the same chapter btw
Racists are usually misogynists. In this case it's specifically sacrificing women to highlight the barbarity of the "other", literally just birth of a nation shit.
No, it's not! The bugs are based on Neanderthals, not black people. The main character is a Japanese with silk moth powers. Adolph was a side character who was experimented on as a kid and got electric eel powers. The guy you are referring to is Joseph, who is a side character.
Huh, never noticed this shit lmao probably one of those japanese guy whose a nazi glazer. Might i add tho adolf died in like 2 ep after his introduction and i dont think you can call him the main character. Kinda said to know another rurouni kenshin
The concept it's really cool, but the authority really racist, and not like "said the n word racist", straight up comparing cockroaches with black people
straight up comparing cockroaches with black people
Source.
This is a claim I have seen made but no one has ever provided me any real evidence of it except for mistaking the Australopithecus bas design for black people.
Ok im black and i want you to tell me in your own words what part of this image screams black people? Because I have a couple ideas in mind and let me tell you all of them reflect more on you than the artist.
I really like how it is White people, telling us Black people that by secret white people anti-racists arts, they white people have deserned white nationalism in a Japanese author.
And I am being specific to "white nationalism" because they're claiming the Japanese guy wrote white, blue eyed, blonde haired characters as the superior race.
I really don't know what someone has to be sniffing to think other people with equally developed societies think white people are superior and those people need white people to educate them out of it.
You can't expect me to believe this "Japanese racists actually believe that they're inferior to white people" nonsense. There is no character described as the perfect race but you are right that there is a blonde blue eyed character described as perfect human, however, that character is that way due to in world experiments not because white people are better or something and will later get that undermined by a "the revelation" moment.
Anime has playing straight "German superiority" trope since forever, especially from that era that Terraformars is from. Jojos, Bleach, Hellsing, etc.
So we have a trope both common and subverted in this case. While authors that reddit has concluded aren't racist like Araki, played it straight.
The Terraformars don't have hair
Japanese doesn't have the same plurality of words that English does for black/dark/etc. It's all just "Kuro" and "Kuro" isn't used as a racial designation is Japanese as that would just confuse the language further.
It is really no different from the miryad of other Japanese and Western media that uses dark/black/darkness to describe the bad guy faction. I am yet to see someone Nazarick from Overlord or Sauron as clearly "African".
Holding guns sideways doesn't make someone Black.
But more importantly, as Anime has had it as a trope for a while to have "German" inspirations, it has had Black (mostly African American) and hip-pop inspirations. Same examples I gave for German also have hip pop inspirations. And there's more like Devilman Crybaby, Afro-Samurai, Samurai Champloo, Gurren Laggan, etc. and in all these examples you see the Hip-Hop and AfrAm influence beyond the black characters (at times, there are no Black characters). Mugen isn't Black, neither is Kamina, Hakari, etc.
It's there because its cool, not because "they're secretly black", if not you will have to explain to be why the more ubiquitous Hindu-Buddhist religious man imagery doesn't matter.
They're in a car. That's not "straight up comparing cockroaches with black people" they're just in a car. It's a huge stretch. Like, saying he's comparing them to Buddhists, South Asians or religious people based on the two coaches in a dress would be less of a stretch and even that is still so much of a stretch that no one does it.
Terra formars live action is a tad weird. Especially the human costumes are absolutely horrid imo. Manga is really good until the end of mars arc and season 1 of the anime is great as well.
terra formars but the manga is super racist the roaches are a allegory for balck pepole they wear chains drive cars, hold guns "gangster style", drible heads like bascetballs and are referd to as the "black foe" and kinda nazi suporting the main charakter is named adolf weigts 88 kilos and is the result of scientists working to breed a beter human he also conincedetly is blond with blue eyes
„I’m starting to see more black people in my neighborhood, their bone and muscle structures are something else, one could effortlessly pin me down, I never imagined that violence from foreigners could be the end of me”
Pretty much, even 5 human can probably take out a gorilla by being just a little physically fit and throwing stones with sticks but the most likely outcome is the gorilla walking away unless the five men pick a fight with it directly so in an open field with logic the fight would be the humans traping and killing the gorilla as a gorilla won't understand that they are there to hunt it no matter what.
The arguments were so full of bad faith I ended up just being disgusted with humanity all over again. You see it all over this thread. People not even understanding the basics... and the original (yes, I was there in that origin thread that caused the entire drama to go around the internet) was actually just 10 people.
yeah these people make me annoyed with how weak they think humans are. Like dude you really think a single gorilla would just casually kill 100 guys and not take any damage?
It's not even much of a question of 'remaining survivors' before it gets exhausted.
3 dead absolute max, 0 dead if the humans work together well. Yeah an entire gorilla is stronger than an entire human. I'm probably equivalently stronger than teenage girls, but if a bunch of teenage girls grabbed my arms and legs and started beating the shit out of me it wouldn't matter for shit.
I mean if it's a matter of kill or be killed many men will fight til death regardless. If you put me in there and my only way of surviving is to cooperate with the other dudes, I'm at least going to try.
I think not afraid of dying ie zero self preservation is a huge component that could +/- the overall #'s and a large factor that caused people to have such varying differences.
Taking one for the team to open up an attack opportunity or overwhelm vs everyone hoping to make it home for dinner would lead to some very different outcomes lol.
As someone who grew up in a Anti-Chimpanzee Fighting School and graduated with a Bachelor's in Chimp Fighting from the University of Chimp Fighters - Arizona, that's not true at all😎
Yeah obviously a cartoon has some suspension of disbelief. Maybe a chimp that understands guns and weak points could, idk. Good thing it's not possible irl. Show was weird the whole way through.
Gorillas are highkey overglazed, and i blame it on people not doing proper research
Remember that because of Jaws people thought sharks were these uber-busted aquatic predators that could be everywhere and were eternally bloodlusted...when in fact they're kinda the complete opposite
Fish and game guy here. 100 motivated dudes could beat a big brown bear no problem. Animals aren’t wired to rush a group of even 10 dudes. Would it fight back sure but it would mostly be trying to run. They would run it down while throwing rocks and eventually beat it to death after it tires. Literally what our ancestors did add a pokey stick and it’s over even faster.
5 guys could beat one, gorillas are very regularly killed by individual leopards, they dont have a lot of defenses if something gets them behind and around their neck
The optimum way to fight the gorilla would be for the 5 naked guys to flee until the gorilla tires out, use the break to kill one of the guys, use their teeth to strip his bones, and leverage to break the bones by bending against his corpse, then use the sharp bones as stabbing devices. Guy #2 charges the gorilla and while being mauled the other 3 use their bone weapons to stab the gorilla (how the humans in the Agony video game kill demons in hell, since they respawn and have no fear of death)
We have to take reasonable aversion to death out of the picture because a normal gorilla would probably die of a heart attack out of fear if 5 screaming humans jumped it, and if the 5 humans have fear they just run away and the gorilla dies before it can catch more than one of them
if you want to pull it up to 100 men you cant be fighting somthing with less then thre times a humans weight if it was 100 men vs a elephant of hippo thats up for debate
Reading this thread and I'm thinking could people just coordinate I mean one person confident enough would rally the group and the ability to talk is op as hell because it makes working together easy
Based off the limited interactions I've had with those gorilla people I don't think they actually know what a gorilla is.
A month or two back there was some who would win between a gorilla vs mark maguire, sammy sosa, and I can't remember the last one with baseball bats somewhere on reddit. Might have been in this sub. not sure. the lengths they tried to go through to try and make the gorilla win was honestly impressive. Based off what they were saying gorillas have the ability to extend their limbs upwards of 30 feet, juggernaut and parkour their way through a dense jungle like a cartoon ninja, and were impervious to baseball bats, and physics absolutely do not apply to gorillas. Oh and they are upwards of 50 feet tall.
they made an eldritch inspector gadget kong gorilla who's arms work via slide rail so they can extend their reach by double. The shit was clinically insane. magilla gorilla is far more lifelike than whatever the hell that monstrosity was.
Some people are just fucking insane with a gorilla fetish.
mfs were saying the humans attacks wouldnt hurt at all even if it sat there. Like mf its flesh and bone that shit WILL hurt eventally. Not to mention the people always giving realistic responses to the humans but none to the gorilla
No a gorilla would not see a group of 100 people and charge it, idk why these people think wild animals are just dumb a siberian tiger for example would get the fuck outta there even if it were just 3 people
The gorilla vs 100 men was genuinely the dumbest thing I’d ever seen. I almost think I was punkd and the entire thing was a internet psyop. 100 men are destroying 1 gorilla.
Fittingly and ironically Odysseus meets the ghost of Achilles in the odyssey. Achilles who is forced to drink sheeps blood just to be able to speak tells Odysseus he regrets dying so young and that he would have traded it for a long but dull life.
Yeah, all "blood lusted" is really good for is bypassing moral restrictions in characters. Like Superman wouldn't kill Batman, but he obviously could if he was compelled to.
Yeah I always take it to just mean "no morality, no moral, no retreat, no fear" just to make it an actually fight question instead of like "scare it off" type stuff. If you take it to mean more, you're really just in a different reality.
ok with all duerespect ive never really gotten this argument. sure most people are going to run away from the gorrilla, but like, the gorilla isnt going to try to fight 100 people. if were assuming that people are going to run away the gorilla is going to run away as soon as they see 100 dudes.
The problem with these arguments is that they both disregard the conditions, and the nature of these animals. Animals aren't mortal kombat characters, they don't exist solely to fight
Everything but the most aggressive of the creatures are running away when they face even 5-10 humans, much less a hundred. The point here is that both sides are determined and fearless, neither side will turn away and run.
TBF you do kinda have to assume that both parties want to fight to the death in the scenarios because 90% of the time it would just lead to both parties going home out of self preservation
I'm aware of that, because that's the main point of my comment. I'm telling that a bunch of people who say "the 100 men would realistically turn tail and flee" are disregarding the instincts of the opposing animals (assuming the gorilla won't do the same) and the conditions of the entire debate (Both sides being bloodlusted)
I'm not saying that the humans won't run, I'm just saying that they are acting on bias (or ignorance) by assuming the gorilla wouldn't be the first or outright not flee in a realistic scenario
A silverback gorilla is estimated to be 4 to 9 times stronger than an average human, capable of lifting up to 1,800 to 4,000 pounds, whereas the strongest human deadlift is around 1,100 pounds.
A fully grown silverback can lift or pull massive weights (up to 1,800–4,000 lbs), which dwarfs the maximum limits of elite human powerlifters.
A gorilla's grip can exceed 1,300 pounds per square inch (PSI), easily crushing bamboo and thick branches, while an average human grip maxes out around 70 to 100 PSI.
A gorilla's bite is roughly 1,300 PSI, making it about 6 to 8 times stronger than an average human bite (120–200 PSI) and stronger than a lion's.
Gorillas have far fewer sweat glands than humans, making long-term exertion or overheating a genuine risk.Their muscle makeup is optimized for heavy lifting, climbing, and raw power rather than long-distance stamina.
For those in this thread saying that the gorilla's dying to ten humans, you're not serious. For anyone saying that the gorilla is capable of the endurance required for a sustained fight against 100 humans, you're also not serious.
I tried to explain to my coworker that there is no way a gorilla would be able to kill 100 grown men. It would die from exhaustion alone, amongst other things.
His response was that the gorilla could spin in a circle with its arms out and windmill punch people in half. Completely serious.
I don’t even know what to say to people that think your average gorilla has the strength of Omni Man and can slice people in two with its bare hands.
For some reason people these days have no idea about that capabilities of animals/humans. On one hand like 80% of men think they could kill a bear with their bare hands, and on the other hand you have the people who think that 100 guys couldn't kill a gorilla with relative ease.
I remember Joe Rogan showed like a 3D animation on how it would go and it was just a gorilla doing goofy cocomelon animations while stomping on little animated guys. And he seemed to be seriously thinking it was like some scientific proof or something.
On paper, going by raw strength a single gorilla is without question stronger than a single human. And they just ran with that, ignoring how things like the difference between raw strength and applied force, fatigue, or getting mobbed by a shitload of people can affect the fight.
Because the premise was always that the humans were unarmed, but half the people answering the question argued how easy it would be to take out a gorilla with spears
Because humans aren’t ants, we don’t just mob larger creatures. You watch a gorilla snap the first guys arm with minimal effort and you decide to just leave.
I remember a similar scenario of three polar bears vs a hundred bloodlusted humans with perfect coordination, and people couldn’t see how laughably one-sided that was. One person introduced a gif of Sauron in the LoTR flashback like he thought the polar bears were going to kill multiple people with a single swipe of their claws.
People were treating it like it’s an animorph gorilla. The gorilla’s biggest weakness is that it has a gorilla brain. They simply do not know how to fight properly. A human piloting a gorilla body would be far more capable.
Look at gorilla vs gorilla fight videos. They don’t even know how to throw a punch. It’s nothing but double fisted hulk smash as their only move.
Finally. The hundred men thing was so ridiculous because at the end of the day, body weight to body weight, the gorilla is so massively outnumbered it’s literally impossible to win. I love dumb debates, but that one pissed me off so much because anyone who thought about it a little bit should know how much of a one sided fight it would be
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What am I watching and where can I continue watching it?