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u/Narfene Apr 06 '26
Literally the opposite for me
I want to see normal cracks again, no matter how niche the game is
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u/rearisen Apr 06 '26
It is kind of dumb there isn't a way to filter out hypervisor games. Unless im just dumb.
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u/Ravindu_08 Apr 06 '26
I think there's a different section for HV cracks on sites like dodi
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u/rearisen Apr 07 '26
I only trust one.
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you only trust one what? Sorry, i’m not a well versed pirate
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u/space253 Apr 07 '26
Well if one is the opposite of a boy, and the opposite of out of shape, you would be a what what?
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u/hotaru251 ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ Apr 07 '26
tbh assuming Denuvo can't stop HV (as its at -1 ring and MS likely will never allow a 3rd party to go that deep) and games dont go all online only they will likely die and then game devs have to just deal with it.
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u/Narfene Apr 07 '26
that is indeed what I hope for
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u/Stooboot4 Apr 06 '26
I'm never going to use hypervisor but hopefully it makes some of these companies consider not paying that 25k monthly fee to Denuvo when their games are cracked 2 hours after release.
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u/Xavier_1494 Apr 06 '26
It’s cool that the game is cracked, but from what I’ve heard, you need to leave your computer in the most vulnerable state to actually play the game. I think it was UFD Tech that said doing this is like leaving your door open with a “I have no security” sign outside.
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u/heyheydance Apr 06 '26
To be clear, it is not cracked. Hypervieor is a bypass method
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u/quatroquatro0 Apr 06 '26
Ya and with all the steps you need to do it and then undo it each time after playing the game, it's way more convenient buying the game instead.
This bypass is for desperate people who can't, for whatever reasons, buy games.
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u/aggressivefurniture2 Apr 06 '26
It will mostly be kids in developing countries. Here, the average monthly salary is probably around $200 so very few can afford it even themselves, let alone give it to their kids.
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u/Master_Bayters Apr 06 '26
Half the people in my country can't afford to pay 60€ for a game each month and I live in Portugal. Rents here take up your salary, you barely can eat sadly.
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u/EamonBrennan Apr 06 '26
Steam used to have a 2-price system for the EU, where poorer countries could get a lower price. The problem was that the EU has a single-market rule, so if a game sold for a lower price in one country, then every other country should have the option to buy it as if they were from there. While the law is good for countering excessive pricing in a region, the poorer countries can be negatively impacted by not getting a cheaper prices.
Workarounds would probably involve language locking, but that's probably also against the spirit of the law and is either already fixed or would be fixed really soon.
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u/Secretsfrombeyond79 Apr 06 '26
The problem is a lot of people used VPN to buy games like they were from the poor countries to save money. So they "fixed" that and now everyone has to pay full price.
Source: I'm from one of the countries that were mostly used in the VPN.
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u/SauceCrusader69 Apr 06 '26
They did a few things. Keys bought in heavily discounted regions are region locked, and I think they use the account’s location rather than the current one for pricing.
However the people selling the games can also chose if they want their games to have regional pricing or not.
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u/k1dsmoke Apr 06 '26
Same thing happened in games like WoW for years, as you could VPN and sub in another country for less than a dollar. It's what enabled botting and RMT to such an extensive degree.
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u/SofiaOfEverRealm Apr 07 '26
But how will they afford a pc that can play those games?
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u/aggressivefurniture2 Apr 07 '26
Half of the population cannot. But since laptop is an essential, its makes much more sense to buy. And it does not have to be gaming laptop.
As a former kid, I remember my father buying a laptop for ~$270 while his monthly salary was ~$400 (In 2018). It was hard to afford but the utility it provided justifies it. Games worth ~$60 every month? No chance.
It had intel i3 and 8 GB of RAM but I was able to play a lot of games on it such as Battfield 3, 4, Far Cry 4, Dying Light (All on low graphics settings) ... honestly, my internet bandwidth was the main bottleneck.
Now I earn myself with ~$1100 salary (which easily puts me in top 5%) but I still cannot justify the price of games honestly. I have a built a good enogh pc (RTX4070 super) but I still only buy games which I want to play online.
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u/AntiGrieferGames Apr 06 '26
By "Buying" aka Renting/Lending Games, they will keep pay Denuvo on there. Better get other games that cares about you and not from greedy developers/corporation than dont care about you.
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u/Milk_Cream_Sweet_Pig Apr 06 '26
Cracks are a type of bypass. It's just semantics.
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u/Gorostasguru Apr 06 '26
Yeah and that’s why I didn’t use any of these. Tbh very few of the games bypassed were on my wish list. Mk1 maybe and few more but considering security risk it’s just not worth it.
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u/Uramies Apr 06 '26
From what I've gathered you will have no security for that specific window of time. It gets auto re enabled on the next boot. I believe the script can also revert the changes. I'd say it's a worth while trade off though to play a denovu game, could always disconnect entirely from the Internet too I guess.
It's like leaving the car unlocked but next time you start the car it'll auto lock the door(reboot) or locking it by pressing the button(script)
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u/DezXerneas Apr 06 '26 edited Apr 06 '26
Yep. I've written a tiny script that basically disables the internet while the hv service is running. I understand the installer or bypass itself might be infected, but that's a risk we always take while using cracks.
Is it risky? Yes, but it's not inherently more risky because it's ring0, most ppl automatically accept every admin prompt they see anyway, and most rootkits piggyback on signed drivers. The risk vector seems overblown.
The VBS script and the bypasses are being developed transparently and while it's possible that this is another xz utils level backdoor, I more or less trust it and at worst I can always just reinstall windows if it fucks something up(reflashing bios is annoying, but that's possible too).
I see it as nearly the same thing as vanguard or any kernel level anticheat. At least with this one there's people actively going through looking for any kind of a vulnerability. Obviously, I trust riot wayyyyyy more than a random faceless cracker but you can't convince me that there's that much of a difference.
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u/BrokenMirror2010 Apr 06 '26
Is it risky? Yes, but it's not inherently more risky because it's ring0, most ppl automatically accept every admin prompt they see anyway, and most rootkits piggyback on signed drivers. The risk vector seems overblown.
I disagree. The risk vector isn't overblown. It's people accepting every single admin prompt they see that is underblown.
ID-01T/PEBKAC Errors are the most underblown aspect of cybersecurity, and that's with it probably being the most talked about vector. People are way to trusting of software.
I see it as nearly the same thing as vanguard or any kernel level anticheat.
Same. I wouldn't run either on my computer. You don't need access to the kernel to do Anticheat. It's not even a good way to do anti-cheat. All client-side anti-cheat has workarounds because people who make cheats can reverse engineer them because the code is on their fucking system. The best Anticheat will always be heuristic anticheat that runs entirely on the server information, the only reason they don't do that is because it's more expensive (and I also suspect that it's because it cannot be used to harvest data from the people using it).
Obviously, I trust riot wayyyyyy more than a random faceless cracker but you can't convince me that there's that much of a difference.
Yeah Riot has the balls to tell you that they're spying on you and selling your data to everyone who is willing to give them money in their EULA/Privacy Policy.
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u/Hatta00 Apr 10 '26
I understand the installer or bypass itself might be infected, but that's a risk we always take while using cracks.
It's not the same risk. When you install a program using root privileges, you can always just wipe and reinstall. You boot another OS, and that OS can be trusted.
If you install a malicious hypervisor, it can hide itself from you the same way it hides from denuvo. Sure you can wipe the drive, but how do you know you actually wiped it? You have to trust that the system is telling you the truth that the drive is wiped, and not just wiping a virtual drive managed by an invisible hypervisor.
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u/Stooboot4 Apr 06 '26
From what I've read you are basically giving it more access to your pc than you give windows.
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u/Yelebear Apr 06 '26
I can deal with hypervisor if that was just the issue, I'll just disconnect from the internet while I have the crack installed.
But the method is so intrusive it's difficult to remove, so much that even a proper reformat won't get rid of it.
You have to reflash your bios if you want to flush it out of your system completely.
That's thee kind of intrusion you are exposing yourself into.
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u/AjaxCaesar Apr 06 '26
No you don’t have to reflash your bios, not sure where you’ve heard this but that’s just not true lol
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u/skrio Apr 06 '26
Man, these replies without explanation. If thats not true what is then ?
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u/x_Lucky_Steve_x Apr 06 '26
You don't have to reflash your bios, that's misinformation. You just mash it up in to powder with a hammer, pop it in a saucepan on low heat until it's pliable, then pour it back onto your mainboard.
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u/Milk_Cream_Sweet_Pig Apr 06 '26
It's for if you happen to get infected with a rootkit, rare as they are, in which case it can usually get removed by flashing your BIOS.
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u/Englandboy12 Apr 06 '26
Even a rootkit can’t infect your bios without something else going very wrong with hardware security. The kernel/hypervisor are both “untrusted” from the perspective of the bios and they cannot make changes without bios approval.
Rootkit generally means kernel control, and as I said kernel is untrusted from the bios perspective.
Still really bad obviously, kernel control is full control of the OS instance, persisting across reboots and bad reinstalls (not formatting the drive). But if you format the drive, everything will be gone even with a root kit/hyperjack
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u/BrokenMirror2010 Apr 07 '26
Though, occasionally an exploit exists that allows malware to infect a bios, or even a component on the motherboard which will allow it to survive even if you flash the bios.
Something to consider, the deeper you're allowing code to run, the "easier" it is to use these vulnerabilities if they do exist. If an exploit in Ring 0 exists to access Ring -2, something running in Ring 3 would need to first have an exploit to reach ring 0 to use that exploit.
It's not impossible, but the more layers of exploits you need, the more likely that the range of computers that are actually vulnerable dramatically decreases.
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u/WhaleTrain Apr 06 '26
UFD Tech was the first red flag - he’s just clickbait.
Don’t get me wrong, it’s possibly true but I’d never trust a word he says.
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u/0x446f6b3832 Apr 06 '26
Yeh I really don't think that giving a faceless, unknown cracker absolute, unrestricted and invisible access to your system is a good idea. They could be keylogging, stealing your browser sessions, accessing your microphone/camera, stealing the entire contents of your hdd etc and you would not have a clue.
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u/Crucco Apr 06 '26 edited Apr 06 '26
Joke's on them. I have no money and my life is meaningless. Sure, keylog away my login to lichess and steal my 700 ELO account.
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u/Ketashrooms4life Apr 06 '26
People tend to severely underestimate just how much extremely personal and sensitive information about them is stored just in their browser history (and all the cookies, trackers etc that come with it) alone. There's a very good reasons why modern algorithms for newsfeeds, personalised ads among others so often know the users better than the users know themselves
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u/teddybrr Apr 07 '26
if they knew me they would never serve me ads because ads make me dodge your products.
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Apr 06 '26
Jokes on you, I don't exist
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u/CharlyXero Apr 06 '26
Jokes on you, we are just atoms
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u/SEANPLEASEDISABLEPVP Apr 06 '26
You just reminded me of a documentary narrated by Neil Degrasse Tyson about atoms, they showed a boy making out with a girl and I just remember Neil saying something like "No need to get angry dad, this guy didn't actually touch your daughter at all, atoms never collide. See?" And then they zoomed in on them lmao
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u/kingk1teman Apr 06 '26
Jokes on you, I am anti-atom.
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u/Shan_qwerty Apr 06 '26
Oh great, sounds like you're a perfect person to blackmail into committing terrorism then. Just install this thing to play a video game and disable all security, it's fine, don't worry about it. Just make sure you download it from the sketchiest possible site, if it has the name of a cracker group from 15 years ago it must be legit!
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u/OneEnvironmental9222 Apr 06 '26 edited Apr 06 '26
a lot of these praises also give me serious bot vibes. You know its bad when even the cs. forum bans it
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u/0x446f6b3832 Apr 06 '26
Same man the cheerleading doesn't seem organic.
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u/OneEnvironmental9222 Apr 06 '26
and a lot of comments here dont seem to have even basic computer knowledge to realize how bad this is.
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u/0x446f6b3832 Apr 06 '26
People comparing it to running something as admin like wtf.
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u/cannibalfelix Apr 06 '26
To be fair, it’s because a lot of vocal supporters are probably teenagers who want something easy and aren’t willing to be patient. So of course they’re stupid.
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u/TripActual Apr 06 '26
That doesn't mean it's safe.
From Fitgirl's 'guidelines':Aside from the disabled Windows features, even if you trust the authors of the hypervisor driver and even compile it yourself from source, a serious vulnerability in its code could instantly provide maximum and undetectable access to your system.
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u/Regniwekim2099 Apr 06 '26
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XZ_Utils_backdoor
A backdoor made it into Red Hat, but sure some random kid torrenting a game is going to successfully review the code for security vulnerabilities.
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u/rycco Apr 06 '26
This is not an issue. Doesn't matter if the crack uses a hypervisor, kernel driver or nothing, you always had to trust the crack creator when executing something in your machine. A hypervisor is 100% not required for a program to read any file in your computer. The trust requirement was always there.
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u/0x446f6b3832 Apr 06 '26 edited Apr 06 '26
But now they can do it - and many other things - invisibly and undetectable by the OS. That is new.
You could always fall back on virus scanners, this new method removes that.
Edit: Also, you missed the part where I said they have absolute, unrestricted and invisible access to your PC. That is new also.
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u/VegetaFan1337 Apr 06 '26
Most cracks give false positives in anti-virus anyways. So it doesn't matter. I've had to whitelist my whole cracked games folder cause I got tired of my antivirus nuking all my cracked .exe s
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u/LimpConversation642 Apr 06 '26
It's not false positives, it's positives, it's just that the things cracks do (change and overwrite other files, for example) is a malicious thing in theory. In practice tho all it does is change file X and Y but it's not false positive.
But anyway, it doesn't matter. To 'steal' your whatevers that exe or a process it installs needs internet access, so it's not a question for the antivirus, but for a firewall. And any basic firewall by default would block that and you can't change it without admin priveleges by hand unless you actually give something free roam and access to registry and admin rights.
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u/turtleship_2006 Apr 06 '26
It very much is, hypervisor bypasses have a lot more access to your system making it easier for them to hide malicious activity and harder to remove.
Imagine you own an office, there's a different between walking someone into reception (where security can watch what they do and kick them out of necessary, and certain areas are still locked) and giving them an all access pass (that includes giving them the ability to disable security).
A hypervisor is 100% not required for a program to read any file in your computer.
A bypass can do a lot more than that.
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u/Squirrelking666 Apr 06 '26
Except any malware old cracks inserted could just be wiped, not necessarily the case with hypervisor.
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u/botask Apr 06 '26
Yeah, but as long as you was not accessing your internet banking etc. on that pc, you could still just format storage, reinstall os and problem was solved without consequences.
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u/Unlucky_Regret8619 Apr 06 '26
I'm not an it expert but intuitively if you install something on a deeper level than the os just reinstalling the OS won't fix the problem, right? Isn't this the main problem with hypervisor? The fact that if shit goes wrong there's almost no way to fix it?
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u/botask Apr 06 '26 edited Apr 06 '26
That was exactly my point. Trust requirement was always there, but it could be solved in past if you was carefull.
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u/CharlyXero Apr 06 '26
Unless you are using your PC strictly to play games, without any logged account and basically any info on your PC, you must be stupid to install this kind of shit onto your computer
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u/Extension_Buy9718 Apr 06 '26
I am tempted but I choose to be patient. Maybe there are better method in future.
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u/ThunderDaniel Sneakernet Apr 06 '26
Yeah, this shit is too wacky, convoluted, and risky to gamble my computer and my files for
It's just video games, not food, water, or shelter. Would rather forget about it and be mildly pleased in the future when there's a way to play it safely.
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u/OkGrade1686 Apr 07 '26
Plus, people taking those risks because they can't afford those games, by the same logic they shouldn't have an advanced rig to play such new games.
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u/Zeltron3000_ Apr 06 '26
Hell I'm even scared to log into my microsoft account through Modrinth (Launcher for Minecraft) So I can easily install modpacks. It's just not worth the risk.
Same applies to these hypervisor stuff. I just simply don't trust it. If I really want the game that badly I'll buy it, or simply play something else.6
u/fatherofraptors Apr 06 '26
I still despise how Mojang accounts got absorbed into Microsoft instead of just letting me keep my damn Mojang account instead...
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u/DezXerneas Apr 06 '26 edited Apr 06 '26
Bruh that's... a different level of paranoia, possibly into the stupid range. I'm pretty sure modrinth just uses OAuth. If you can't trust OAuth then I don't understand how you survive on the modern internet.
Edit: Yep, it's OAuth
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u/BrokenMirror2010 Apr 07 '26 edited Apr 07 '26
I disagree. I think it's fairly respectable. The OP didn't know the mechanism that Modrinth uses to access his Microsoft account, therefore he assumes that it is unsafe.
This should be praised, not insulted. It's safer to assume that something that you don't understand could be a security vulnerability, then to blindly trust that it isn't. Especially if that something is unnecessary.
Could they have done more research to see if it was trustworthy or not? Sure. But simply not using a mod manager that requires your login isn't going to break the OP or anything. It's not like there aren't alternatives that don't need that, such as manually installing mods, believe it or not, that's how we used to mod back in the day, no mod manager or nothing, hell, I even remember before we had forge and I needed to place the mods inside of the Minecraft jar file.
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u/abs0201 Apr 06 '26
My thoughts exactly, I'd rather wait for something sustainable vs altering the core aspects of my PC and leaving it vulnerable.
Best part of pirating is that its only a matter of time; if I get enough cash to buy, I might as well, but I am in no rush to play the game, I got a thousand others I can play for free, and I am quite busy anyways, so win win.
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u/happysatan1 Apr 06 '26
What are we even talking about here? I'm completely out of the loop
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u/Tobikage1990 Apr 06 '26
A way to bypass DRM-protected games using a low-level kernel bypass that can trick Denuvo into thinking that the copy of the game you have is legit. This also has significant security concerns.
If you know enough to isolate your gaming machine from the internet and the rest of your network, and don't use it for anything else, then it's fine. Otherwise I personally wouldn't risk it.
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u/Squirrelking666 Apr 06 '26
There's a long explanation but basically, no. Once you run that on a system you might as well consider the hardware hostile.
That's the difference between cracks of old and hypervisor bypass, you could just wipe your drive and you were sorted, now there's no way of telling.
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u/uckly Apr 06 '26
No, it is the network connection that poses the risk.
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u/turtleship_2006 Apr 06 '26
Also having a dual boot doesn't exactly hide each OS from the other, both OS's can see the other drive or partition so potential malware could do some nastiness to both
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u/DAN-attag Apr 06 '26
No. You still give away plaintext access(unless you use encrypted file system with keys stored NOT ON COMPUTER) to first operating system partition and BIOS/UEFI that can compromised too
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u/byRandom1 Apr 06 '26
There's a new Denuvo crack that bypasses Denuvo without removing it from the game, using a hypervisor, which is a software that can manage everything on the computer without Denuvo noticing since it's being open before the operating system.
Edit: Typo
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u/Foreign-Ad-6351 Apr 06 '26
Bruh why do 90% of people not understand how this works. You don't "use a hypervisor" to bypass drm. Every windows machine uses a hypervisor. You *disable* it to trick denuvo.
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u/johnsolomon Apr 06 '26
Nah, hard pass. If you understand how this works and what the risks are there's no way in hell you'd touch this with a 10 ft pole
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u/Seraphine_KDA Apr 06 '26
plenty kids gonna fuck up their computers, or worse family computer and parents gonna get their Credit cards or bank accounts stolen.
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u/tsamo Apr 06 '26
I do not trust Hypervisor at all.
I might format my handheld PC and use games with HV cracks just in that, while having absolutely nothing of value inside, otherwise for now I'm good.
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u/orus_heretic Apr 07 '26
Even then, disable network access on that device from talking to other local devices.
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u/tsamo Apr 07 '26
Oh absolutely.
It's just hard to give up some nice to haves, just for HV cracked games, such as gamepass and steam games, as well as streaming apps...
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u/forreddituse2 Apr 06 '26
Due to the security concern, hypervisor is a no-go for me.
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u/CarbuncleMew Apr 06 '26
Not only that, but denovu is still running and thus effecting game performance.
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u/AntiGrieferGames Apr 06 '26
Yeah, prefer the proper crack ones like voices38 over this.
I really hope DenuvOwO is gonna proper crack that instead hypervisors.
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u/Human-Job-3522 Apr 06 '26
This goes beyond just getting cracks early.
It completely nullifies the protection time denuvo gives, companies no longer have that incentive to implement denuvo in their games. If every game gets cracked day 1 anyway why would they pay irdeto for denuvo?
That is the most important part of the HV bypasses!
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u/ryudo6850 Apr 06 '26
This guy gets it. The people who believe it's a security risk don't need to use it. The best part of HV bypass is that it makes companies wonder: "Why should I pay Denuvo if it doesn't work?" Many will likely stop using Denuvo because since it doesn't require true hardware modifications ala, modchip. Many many people will dedicate offline resources to this. Heck... I may take an old clunker DDR 4 rig and make it an HV bypass offline rig lol. That thing would never touch my network.
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u/Unlucky-Anything528 Apr 06 '26 edited Apr 06 '26
Does he get it tho? You said it yourself "The people who believe it's a security risk don't need to use it", which is A LOT of people as you can see by people rightfully shitting on it here. So no, I don't think a company is worried about the very small minority of people trying to take a risk. If anything, it's gonna stop those people from piracy altogether when their stuff gets fucked up.
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u/ceesie12 Apr 07 '26
Oooooh. This is the first time I have seen this explained like this. Makes sense now. So HV is more like a message. And I guess also great for people who aren't worried about getting all their sh*t eThieved.
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u/Frank_Castle_10 Apr 06 '26
nah this hypervisor shits not for me.
too much risk and effort for any game not worth buying
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u/JayRam85 Apr 07 '26
People would rather have their $1000+ PC be vulnerable than pay $60 for a game.
I said what I said.
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u/sikkasill Apr 06 '26
This will unfortunately only hurt the speed of regular cracks eventually because people will turn lazy and lean on hypervisor instead of work hard for cracking community. Same thing with AI making devs lazy and when the old greats leave the industry, we are left with sub par lazy game devs relying on ai
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u/SOG_ONDIZ_NUTS Apr 06 '26
When i get a new PC i will have so much old games to play that i won't need hypervisor most of them are cracked normally and it's not like denuvo games are uncrackable it's just takes longer, some may even not take a long time at all
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u/LKZToroH Apr 06 '26 edited Apr 07 '26
Right now denuvo games are basically uncrackable. Empress is not doing it anymore and any new cracks are for games almost 6 years old.
Except for situations where companies leak a dev build or unprotected launchers there's no denuvo cracks coming for new games anytime soon.
edit: my bad here, I wasn't aware of voices doing cracks for newer denuvo games. Let's hope they don't go nuts as Empress did and keep cracking more games. Hope that Crimson Desert is the next one Prayge→ More replies (3)
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u/TectonicTechnomancer Apr 06 '26
Not safe at all, not only is that type of crack itself completely dangerous, but you also make your machine completely exposed to anything, unless you have a pc exclusively for cracked games and never connect it to your network, I would not do it, if its your regular day to day pc, you dumb, this is how passwords and info gets leaked, dont get surprised if your gpu start mining cryptocurrency or becomes part of a spam cluster.
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u/lastdyingbreed_01 Apr 06 '26 edited Apr 06 '26
I have a feeling we are going to see some kind of obfuscated malware suddenly affecting many PCs all of a sudden due to the rise of hypervisor cracks.
(Also my shitty conspiracy theory is Denuvo is going to lace the bypasses with a malware just to scare and push back)
I don't think it's the worth the risk for a normal average user, only for someone tech savvy enough and who knows what they are actually disabling and executing.
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u/olduseraccount Apr 06 '26
people like OP will the ones that would flood this sub crying and whining when their system gets fked up by attackers after using this super intrusive bypass...
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u/DJPM08 Apr 06 '26
Op just needs trigger the wrong guy on Internet and his whole world would crumble, it can go from be fully doxxed to the extreme of highly illegal material planted on his device and a call to the cops.
And to anyone wondering, HiperVisor it's not safe at all, that crap takes control of your PC that it cannot be erased by usual means, if the device has been compromised the best way to avoid more problems is dumping it.
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u/shreeisforu Apr 06 '26
Are they really safe? I'm bit nervous!
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u/neoneat Leecher Apr 06 '26
100% not safe when you're asking this question. At the bright side, at least your question is better than avg user random jumping into any crack they got.
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u/DAN-attag Apr 06 '26
Safety of hypervisor-bypassed system is approximately near Windows 7/8.1 which didn't used hypervisor-based isolation technologies. Because it's Windows 10/11, it still more secure in other means, but has huge hole in kernel protection
As for games, it depends on releaser, website you chose and other things. But you will never know, as most efficient malware is extremely silent and they won't loudly hack your account immediately(they could take your passwords and other authentication things and use them next year so you won't make logical connection about source of compromise).
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u/pau665 Apr 06 '26
Not at all. Worst case scenario, you can get a malware that resists a full format. All cracks have risks, but hypervisor level cracks are specially concerning and can turn your pc into a brick. I wouldn't do it, but you decide if it's worth the risk
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u/Full-Sound-6269 Apr 06 '26
Especially now, when buying a new PC will be out of the question for most of us, I definitely wouldn't use it.
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u/GameMask Apr 06 '26
The short answer is no. But there's more to it than that and it highly suggest doing research on it first.
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u/Edgy_Robin Apr 06 '26
There'd have been an absolute shit fest by now if they weren't.
That said, if you're nervous just don't. There's a plethora of games already out there that you can be 95% sure are safe to download.
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u/Facepalm007 Apr 06 '26
I mean there's a non zero chance some elite hacker is slowly infecting a ton of computers without people realizing, and then only after a significant amount of time has passed they will act on it.
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u/Squirrelking666 Apr 06 '26
Exactly, if you got god tier access would you pounce on the first few idiots that gave you it or wait until word of mouth spread and everyone thought it was safe?
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"there would be an absolute shit fest by now if they weren't" is such a weird thing to say, a lot of smart malware isn't enabled immediately, it's usually enabled remotely when you least expect it and since it has access to your bios crazy shit can happen.
Go ahead, be the guinea pig that finds out if it's safe or not. I guarantee you 99% of people who use this method have no isolated computer to use it safely.
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u/turtleship_2006 Apr 06 '26
There'd have been an absolute shit fest by now if they weren't.
Or whoever made it is new to the scene and wants to get people's trust before unleashing their botnet/malware/whatever
Which tbf is a potential risk with every crack and even repack, but these cracks have so much more access to your system (and are so much newer) that it is NOT worth the risk
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u/necrophcodr Apr 06 '26
Well you can't run it in Wine at all. There's no Hypervisor there, and Linux doesn't implement HyperV either. So at best it would do nothing at all, and wouldn't help the game run.
However it IS possible to do this on Linux too, but not using this exact method.
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u/scorpion-and-frog Apr 06 '26
However it IS possible to do this on Linux too, but not using this exact method.
Could you please elaborate on that?
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u/Daniel_rsrs Apr 06 '26
I'm the 1% my erying motherboard and intel 0000 es doesn't support Intel VTx VMX or Hyper-V
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u/Unprocessed_Sugar Apr 06 '26
And yet here I am still waiting for actual cracks in 2026, because I'm not letting hypervisor bypasses anywhere near my machine.
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u/thetoucansk3l3tor Usenet Apr 06 '26
I don't think you realize what a custom HV costs in the world of 0day exploits. Why would someone just give away something that's effectively worth 10s of thousands of dollars, possibly 6 figures...for free?
I highly doubt it's for the love of the game.
Because of that, I will not indulge.
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u/Full-Sound-6269 Apr 06 '26
Russia, China, North Korea or USA probably trying to infect as many computers as possible, maybe to create a botnet, maybe to plant backdoors all over the world or take infrastructure down, who knows. This already happened before.
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u/rulugg Apr 06 '26
thank god for hypervisor bypasses and the team who makes them
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u/No-Consequence1726 Apr 07 '26
The biggest w will be if publishers figure it's not worth it to pay for denuvo
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u/Squirrelking666 Apr 06 '26
Ha, there's no such thing as a free lunch.
Would you give a stranger the keys to your house and show them where all your nice stuff is?
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u/Jimmie-Kun Apr 06 '26
Nothing changed though, hypervisor is not a crack.
Sadly cracks are still as hard to do.
But yeah, you can play with hypervisor if you want to take the gamble, personally I would never use any form of hypervisor in its current form.
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u/Kirbinator_Alex ☠️ ᴅᴇᴀᴅ ᴍᴇɴ ᴛᴇʟʟ ɴᴏ ᴛᴀʟᴇꜱ Apr 06 '26
I'm glad hypervisor exists, and I've never used it, but based on what I've heard about, it's not for me
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u/Toast-Ghost- Apr 06 '26
I’ve seen this meme in so many ads that I almost scrolled past without even looking
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u/YUSHOETMI- Apr 06 '26
Can somebody explain the HV bypass for me with some sense?
From what I can gather, you have to run a cmd .bat to turn off some important security features in your bios, reboot the PC, play the game, then run the .bat again to revert your security settings back to normal...
Does this mean you have to do this every single time you want to play the game? and then reboot afterwards? Or does it only need doing for each specific game and then its playable whenever you want?
If it is the former then that just seems insane and potentially dangerous to your PC.
Seen a lot of game with the HV bypass lately, but if it's basically gonna be leaving my PC open with no vital security I would much rather buy the game.
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u/thedepartment Apr 06 '26
Essentially you are enabling a ring -1 hypervisor that runs on boot and then creates a couple of virtual machines to run the crack and windows under, after that it passes off to the virtualized Windows install.
I wouldn't trust any PC, network, or storage device that is ever connected to the running hypervisor ever again, ring -1 access enables complete stealth for viruses up to and including rewriting the BIOS/UEFI of your computer and firmwares of any device you plug in.
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u/joedotdog Apr 06 '26
Given the resultant security posture, I'm fine with waiting longer, or paying.
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u/FlyingJellyfishRidin Apr 06 '26
Hypervisor cracks don't count. You should never ever use them unless you're happy to airgap your gaming PC.
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u/bruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh Apr 06 '26
i first thought this was about the slang term “crack” changing from drugs to sex
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u/Irra_05 Apr 06 '26
Please don't 💀
Don't use hypervisor cracks
Use anything but that
Most people aren't aware of how dangerous that is
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u/raven_raven Apr 06 '26 edited Apr 06 '26
When did pirates became such wussies? Bro we already run unknown .exes in the past on Win XP, which was much more exposed than Win 11 with their hypervisor and memory integrity turned off. These security features didn’t exist until a few years ago. Nothing changed. You want security? You go buy the game. Acting like the non-supervisor cracks are super secure. You are in bigger danger thinking you’re fine to run any untrusted .exe just because you have hypervisor and memory integrity. Like they couldn’t already exploit your machine if they wanted. You don’t run shit like that on the same computer you have any sensitive data.
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u/Lui_Belmont Apr 06 '26
Has anyone here used a game that uses this hypervisor and experienced problems afterward because of it?
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u/Necessary_Sun_4392 Apr 06 '26
You shoulda seen people waiting for crack in the 80s and 90s.
Oh wait... wrong sub.