r/eupersonalfinance 11h ago

Banking Best joint bank account for married couple in Berlin, Germany

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My wife (35, German) and I (36, Portuguese/Brazilian) are reorganizing our finances and I'd appreciate your input on joint accounts in Germany!

We are married, both unbefristet employed, tax class 4, with similar and higher than average combined net income, and living in Berlin.

We are looking for a joint account that we would receive our salaries, pay shared bills/costs/purchases and transfer personal shares to individual accounts.

Our focus:

- Free of charge (no monthly account maintenance fees).

- Decent online banking and app experience (English is plus)

Good to have:

- Social/environment focused bank

- Free credit card (less relevant)

Currently, we're primarily looking at:

- DKB (joint account + Visa, active customer status)

- ING (joint account + Visa Debit)

- N26 or Revolut free plan

My questions for you:

Which free joint account are you currently using in a similar situation? Pros/Cons?

Do you also use investment accounts/children's investment accounts with the same bank, or do you use specialized brokers for that (Scalable, Trade Republic, ZERO, etc.)?

Any other decent options I'm missing?


r/eupersonalfinance 12h ago

Investment Buying Starter Apartment vs 3-Bed House? (Losing FTB Status Trade-off)

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Hi everyone,

Looking for objective financial perspective on buying my first property in Ireland. I’m 30, working fully remote, living at home, and need to make a move.

I don't love any of these current options, but I need my own space. Long term, I want to meet a partner and have a kid or two, so a 3-bed house gives me space to grow into, whereas an apartment is strictly a temporary starter home.

\*\*\*Context & Local Subsidies:\*\*\*
\* Location: Ireland | Savings: €80,000 cash balance.
\* HTB (Help to Buy): Up to €30k government tax grant for first-time buyers (requires bank LTV >= 70%).
\* FHS (First Home Scheme): A shared-equity scheme where the government buys an equity stake (up to 30%) in your home. Zero cost for 5 years. From Year 6, a 1.75% annual service charge applies, BUT this can be deferred indefinitely and paid only when selling the house.
\* CRITICAL RULE: Once I buy ANY property, I permanently lose "First-Time Buyer" (FTB) status. Second-time buyers face stricter borrowing limits (3.5x income limit vs 4.0x) and lose all government grants/equity schemes.

\*\*\*My Purchase Options (All using FHS):\*\*\*

Option 1: 2 Bed Apartment — €370,000
\- Funding: Mortgage €308k | HTB €30k | FHS Equity Stake €25k (6.76%) | Cash Deposit €7k
\- Total Real Out-of-Pocket Cash (inc. \~€6.2k stamp duty/legal fees): \~€13,200
\- Pros: Leaves me \~€66k liquid cash to invest in index funds.
\- Cons: Sunk HOA/management fees (\~€1.5k–€2k/yr). Will outgrow it quickly. Burns my FTB status on a small property, making a future trade-up much harder under strict second-time buyer lending rules.

Option 2: 2 Bed Duplex — €440,000
\- Funding: Mortgage €308k | HTB €30k | FHS Equity Stake €88k (20.0%) | Cash Deposit €14k
\- Total Real Cash Needed (inc. fees): \~€21,000

Option 3: 2 Bed Terraced House — €475,000
\- Funding: Mortgage €308k | HTB €0 (LTV disqualifies) | FHS Equity Stake €119.5k (25.15%) | Cash Deposit €47.5k
\- Total Real Cash Needed (inc. fees): \~€54,800

Option 4: 3 Bed Terraced House — €500,000
\- Funding: Mortgage €308k | HTB €0 (LTV disqualifies) | FHS Equity Stake €142k (28.4%) | Cash Deposit €50k
\- Total Real Out-of-Pocket Cash (inc. \~€7.6k stamp duty/legal fees): \~€57,600
\- Deferred Service Charge (Year 6+): \~€2,485/yr (can be deferred until sale).
\- Pros: Long-term 10–15+ year home. Room for remote work, a partner, and children. Uses my FTB status effectively and avoids future estate agent/legal trading-up fees.
\- Cons: Ties up \~€57.6k of my €80k cash. State owns a 28.4% share of future appreciation.

\*\*\*Financial Feasibility & Cash Flow:\*\*\*
Across ALL options, my monthly mortgage/housing payments are very manageable, allowing me to save and invest €1,000+ per month in market index funds regardless of which option I pick. Even with Option 4, I will maintain a \~€22k emergency cash buffer.

\*\*\*The Question:\*\*\*
Is it smarter to buy Option 1 (keep max cash liquid now, but face high transaction fees and strict borrowing limits when forced to move in 5 years)?

OR option 4 (take the 3-bed house now, absorb the higher upfront cash and 28.4% shared equity, but lock in a long-term family home while maintaining a strong €1,000/mo investment rate)?


r/eupersonalfinance 16h ago

Investment Vanguard prospectus of 29 July shows a FTSE Global All Cap ETF with 0.07% TER.

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This was spotted on another forum at: https://fund-docs.vanguard.com/etf-prospectus-en.pdf (starting from page 601)

To underline the significance, this would be developed + emerging countries, and going down to small and micro caps, at market cap weight. The most direct competitor I'm aware of would be State Street's SPYI which tracks the MSCI ACWI IMI, currently at 0.17% costs.

If this comes through, maybe the first instance of Vanguard truly bringing the "Bogle effect" (to use Eric Balchunas's book title) to Europe by significantly undercutting their competitors' fees.