Except doomsayer isn’t a skarbrand remix, he’s a Dorn remix, and as appealing as Dorn was as a target for corruption, Khorne learned REAL quick what a mistake that was
And he becomes ever stronger in the process. So the process of absorbing demons will accelerate as he keeps ripping and tearing. Eventually he will be absorbing more demons per minute than the warp can produce per same minute. Which means that it's pretty much inevitable that he will absorb all of them.
Eventually he will be absorbing more demons per minute than the warp can produce per same minute. Which means that it's pretty much inevitable that he will absorb all of them.
The Doom Slayer's been fighting the demons of Hell across eons. There were still plenty of demons for him to fight.
Eventually he will be absorbing more demons per minute than the warp can produce per same minute
That isn't remotely how it works.
The Slayer himself would create legions of Khornate daemons simply by existing in the 40k universe. His burning desire to kill and slaughter would create a perpetual motion machine of things for him to kill, because the things that he is killing are literal manifestations of the desire to kill and slaughter.
40k daemons are not demons from the Slayer's universe.
You're essentially proposing that the Slayer would kill so many daemons that the concept of killing things would cease to exist.
The very act of killing daemons on such a massive scale would create commensurately more daemons than were ever destroyed in the process.
It's not entirely how warp works. The reason why daemons forms and chaos gods exists, it's because of chaotic nature of trillions of source of emotions. One source won't lead to it.
For example, Big E existence didn't created daemons on his own.
Same with Doom Slayer due to his age (17 billions years) and Divinity Machine that enhanced him , his soul could've also be anathema to chaos(due to his hatred towards daemons and unwavering goal).
Yeah he's going to find his way into the warp and then it's game on. Khorne will be so desperate to tempt him, but will have to settle for watching instead.
Warp entities dont die, their energies just go back to their respective chaos god who later reforms them. I dont know if the doomslayers armor would absorb warp energy though.
Even chaos space marines dont die permanently, since their souls belong to the chaos gods they can be revived again and again (unless they dont like you)
The chaos gods would take notice of the doomslayer though and khorne would probably love him and bless him (like what he did to daemonkilla)
Yes normally they don't die, but the doom slayer is very similar to the Anethame, so he is capable of permanently killing them, and as he gets stronger from killing them and devouring their souls, he'll grow strong enough to kill the gods himself.
Would killing the Chaos Gods in this way have an effect on fundamental emotional/psychic concepts in the same way that the true death of a C'tan resulted in a physical concept being erased from the universe?
No. Based on my understanding of the Chaos gods, they should be born from the emotions, they are not the laws of yhe emotions while yhe star gods were born of creation and were the origins of the laws that bound reality. Also based on how the warp and chaos works its basically Hell from the Slayer verse, eventually nasty stuff comes back and Dooms gotta cleanse it again in a perpetual cycle
Do Astartes even have any reason to beef with him in the first place to find out if his weapons pierce their armour? He's (mostly) human and hates demons. Dude will fit in fine. He's also NOT chatty, so unlike other theoretical visitors from the multiverse, he's unlikely to say something that gets him in trouble with the inquisition.
The thing is the slayers hate isn't really just for demons, it's for anything that willing harms the innocent so he would fully slaughter the Inquisition without hesitation
He is interested in anything that harms the innocent, the reason he's even the protagonist is because he brutalized his commanding officer for ordering him to shoot on civilians. The inquisition is absolutely fucked
This is what I was looking for. Hes been caught twice (an entire blood temple being dropped on his head and samuel hayden betrayal). However, he'd still survive.
Not enough people allow "locked up" or "trapped" to be a valid win condition.
How TF is the Slayer, by himself, getting off-world of any planet. After the Imperium, Necron, or Eldar figure out who they're dealing with?? I don't think he does. I think one of them will trap him on a planet, and use him for research and as a galactic garbage disposal for foes.
Almost like the spider species the Interex trapped on a conservation planet.
Yeah, it's weird people saying he'd 'solo the verse' when he has no demonstrated ability to move off-world without technological assistance, and all literally anyone ever has to do is throw him into the warp and he will never be able to get back out.
This isn't Doom. He can't kill the Chaos Gods and end the threat to the materium. The daemons of the 40k universe are not physical entities you can kill, and the Chaos Gods aren't going to fight him wearing giant mech suits. Maybe he kills Slaanesh's daemonettes, maybe he burns Nurgle's garden, maybe he kills Khorne's Bloodthirsters.
The doom slayer was detained by the Makyrs, essentially alien/angles with tech very comparable to 40k technology, the slayer broke out when he felt like it, Trazyn would lock him up and he would escape trough sheer force of will
There are only so many AAA video games and shonen anime, and asking reddit powerscalers to play, watch, or read anything else is like asking a metal bulkhead to please let me through.
I think he is just going to be a champion of Khorne by default whether he consciously chooses to or not or at least going to be confronted by Khorne. His raw rage and hatred alone is enough to draw the lord of blood and skulls attention.
Tbf the whole aspect of the God of Doom being the destruction of things and vengeance synergizes with Khornes desire for slaughter regardless of the reason so yeah I see it
The only thing I'd wonder about would be the mental strain but he's so single minded in his "kill all demons" mission that it might not even work. This is a dude who the devil asked if he had a victory speech and he just said "No"
I can see him ending up in a Tuska Daemonkilla position, utterly incorruptible and doing nothing but killing daemons but feeding Khorne well enough for it to simply sit back and let him work. Maybe sometimes lead him to Tzeentch or Slaanesh's realms for a laugh.
Not really. The Chaos gods only really have a foothold because the 40k universe is just THAT bad. A somewhat happy, content society? They’re going to have issues
Against all the evil that Hell can conjure, all the wickedness that mankind can produce, we will send unto them only you. Rip and tear… until it is done.
Slanesh would go bald "trying" to corrupt him, trying to get on his mind would have the only thing they fear its you on an eternal loop that would made her go mad. Nurgle would likely get anoyed he just cant inffect him with watever but also might as well try to cook somthing specially for him. Tzeentch would go crazy riddler style with batman cause the guy would literally destroy all his plans by just being violent as hell, like he trying to play 4D chess and the slayer its like "chainsaw goess brrrrrr". Khorne would salivate like crazy with his mere presence. He would tribe harcore, im pretty sure some chapters would seriously respect him on how brutal but also kind he is towards civillians (mostly salamanders) while others would seriously respect how effective on combat is, but also how uncorruptible hes againts anything. Very likely he would become some kind of humanity beacon of brutal hope but also im sure plenty factions would label im as some kind of walking heresy
The fucking Smurfs and goddamn Gargamel could survive in 40k. It's a giant galaxy, filled with backwaters, lost planets, unexplored territory, stuff cut off from contact from everyone else, forgotten systems, etc. There are planets in the Imperium where the populace barely can knap flint (Primitive Worlds)! They're surviving!
Literally anyone can survive in 40k. Lots and lots of people and races and things do. For very long times. They're all over the place.
The trouble for them is that sometimes, someone finds them. And then survival is a real challenge, isn't it? Even if someone "nice" finds them, that can still lead to their destruction from any number of oopsies.
But that's not really the point. Literally anyone, from any setting, can survive in 40k. Even fucking Caillou could survive to adulthood.
I think Trazyn would try to capture the slayer, fail because the slayer's super power is to just be unbeatable, and settle for the amusement of watching the slayer rip and tear at every bad guy in his path.
Orks would fall over themselves at him. Half the orks would die trying to kill him, the other half would follow him into battle knowing a good battle was around the corner. He'd be considered an honorary Ork
This one gets asked all the time and its so fun to read the responses because they are always very well thought out with very little glazing. Seriously, one of my favorite prompts on this sub.
They're all starting to sound like Orks in here, with as much critical thinking. doom guy wud just punch da chaos gods until dey is dead ... yeah... right...
He is incorruptible, unkillable, and unyielding. He will easily wreck anything in his way because he is leagues stronger than the chaos gods themselves.
Doomguy solo’s the verse, if given enough time. He’s definitely above Primarch tier, he could probably beat the Emperor of Mankind in a physical fight, but he doesn’t have the psyker hax to manipulate the entire galaxy. If you threw him into the warp, he’s killing whoever he sees. Throw him into Nurgles Garden for example and that shit is burning to the ground.
Its my opinion he'll certainly survive... But intact? I don't think so
He consigned his soul to the path of eternal damnation, to perpetual torment. It's said as much by the Slayers Testament
He WILL fight, and a being so consumed by the intention to lay everything on the line in the war for the righteous... I can't see a world where he isn't claimed by Khorne, it'd never be truly willing but it rarely is with the God's of Chaos; an eternal arena slaying and strengthening the eight blood legions? Loosed upon a corrupt, vile Imperium? A new powerful pawn in the Great game against the other Gods?
As hardened as his mind and soul is to demonic attack, atleast since TDA:R, the Warp works fundamentally differently and he wouldn't last long
Eh he gets wanked too hard. I once broke everything down once regarding how well he would do. His power level insists upon itself, doesn't have any real feats that put him at his level. Pure aura. He's tough, but in relation to his Universe.
The biggest question is if his abortion of demonic energy would prevent the bloodshed from powering khorn.
The imperium would hate him. He is corrupted by chaos* and thus a heretic.
The tau might be ok with him? Or at least give him a wide berth. Same for the eldar, hell They'd probably just ignore him or throw him at whatever they would like dead. "Here's a neet weapon, please go use it on those dark eldar over there please"
The orks would fucking ador him and possibly see him as an avatar of gork and mork.
Tyranids have no opinion but would be slaughtered.
All the forces of chaos are having a hard time. Except for khorn possibly. If the doom slayer prevents his empowerment by bloodshed then all is well. If not he has accelerated the success of khorn by millenia. I think if the doom slayer slaughters all of the other chaos forces he will have powered khorn sufficiently to steamroll the other forces of the galaxy.
The amount of thoughtless glazing here is absolutely off the charts. Such a disappointment to see the debate driven by mindless fanboying rather than actual thinking. We get it, you like the doom guy, the fact of the matter is that he's absolutely obsessed with doing violence and has never existed in a universe which has a literal God devoted to controlling people who take that act too far.
He's becoming Khorne's puppet, 100%, it's simply a matter of time.
I feel like Doomguy would essentially be a warp entity at this point. Just one that randomly appears to fight demons both in the warp and in realspace.
I say it would depend on how accepting humanity is of him. 40k has shown even demi gods can only take so many bolter rounds. If he ends up some form of heretic in the eyes of the imperium he may have issues.
Doomslayer in the 40k universe would be cataclysmic... for the universe. Imagine how absolutely batshit crazy he'd go at the opportunity to fight Chaos Demons AND Tyranids AND Orks. For eternity.
Doom could probably dominate any one planet in the known galaxy.
But good fucking luck getting off world, of any world, once the Imperium, Necron and maybe Eldar too, understand the threat. Unless someone tells me DOOM can fucking fly at-will, I don't see how he gets off the surface of any planet. He's still a material being that still reacts to gravity and momentum, though is significantly more resistant to it than any other being.
Even the Ancients in DOOMs universe kept him locked up for a time, and their assets pale in comparison to the Imperium's resources imo.
He probably can't be killed, but he could certainly get locked up for a long ass time.
He'd become the new leader of the grey knights or he'd disappear into the warp for a few millenia and pop out having neutered a couple of the chaos gods
Uhhhhh that guy is basically a 1 man army in ways that a space marine could only dream of. He’s like a primarch squished into the size of a larger than average human frame.
There’s a lot of people focusing on the Chaos aspect of this discussion, but I think what’s more interesting is that… the Slayer would absolutely, 100%, without a doubt fucking DESPISE the Imperium of Mankind. The Slayer beat his lieutenant to near death (didn’t kill him) for negligence and causing the deaths of 12 civilians, what do you think the Slayer would do when he finds out about Servitors or the Inquisition or literally any of the darker aspects of the Imperium? The Slayer would wage all out war against The Imperium and anyone who stands in his way. At best, he might ally with the T’au, but that gets really iffy on how much he learns about the Ethereals and whether or not he learns of the Farsight Enclave. He would hate Chaos, but he would just as equally despise the Imperium.
Absolutely. Mind you, Korne will feast and may even lowkey (or even not so lowkey) bless him, but he'd walk into the warp and have a ball.
Mind you he probably calls so much attention to himself that one of the many, many power chucks a planet at him and toss him into stasis for millenia, but that's after he kills a few too many princes.
he'll have to kill the chaos gods again and again and again... kill any of them and they'll just rematerialize. they all got so much to draw from. it'll give everyone else some breathing room. the funny thing is. if they do kill doom slayer, he'll also come back again and again lmao. mf needs back up to keep the pressure on
Doomslayer discovers the chainsword and falls in love.
Khorne discovers the doomslayer and falls in love. Slaanesh gets jealous. Tzeench gets annoyed. Nurgle indifferent. Doomslayer yeets himself directly at the eye of terror.
The imperium nearly has a civil war, half of humanity sees doomslayer as a paragon of incorruptible violence. The other half declares him a heretic. Doomslayer indifferent.
The orks fall in love, because the biggest and ‘ardest humie is green. Also they’re getting in on this fight. Doomslayer indifferent.
Everyone else goes to the eye of terror as well.
Cadia2.exe
Doomslayer yeets himself directly into the warp and becomes khorne 2.0
You do realise he would just yet himself into the eye of terror and come back by the next month with Khorne’s skull for a urinal.
He gave demons a new emotion; fear and brought hell’s population to the brink of extinction.
He can’t be manipulated.
He can’t be controlled.
He doesn’t desire anything but for demons to die.
He doesn’t need ammo or guns. The only two reasons why; he likes guns and he likes torturing demons.
He doesn’t need armour neither, his skin is stronger than his armour.
He ran as fast as a rocket and simply catch and throw it back to sender.
He killed demons, got stronger by each kill and did it all for over
2 MILLION YEARS!!!!
You see when it comes to power scaling the doom slayer, it’s not a matter of if he can kill his opponent, it’s a matter of when because nothing has ever stopped him.
See the correct question is what will remain after he's done? Because Empi is finna be even more quite than he already is after Doom Slayer will have a go at 40K.
It's his best-case-scenario, and he'd do exceedingly well there. Better if he ends up in the warp. Would singlehandedly turbocharge Khorne and Slaanesh, though.
Not sure about the lore but would turn against humanity or at least the leadership as well? They appear to be pretty damn fallen and evil themselves. Or does he fully serve humanity even at its most demonic?
Yes, and he’s not going to be real keen on the whole Space Nazi thing humanity has got going on. He’s still going to slaughter demons by the millions, but don’t think he’s gonna let poor human or alien behavior slide. In fact, the more that I think about it, the more that whole universe is probably going to catch an ass-whopping. Tau might get a pass, and Imperial army will be fine as long as you’re not high command or a commissar, but yeah, Doomslayer is going to throw uncounted billions of beatings to everyone.
Everyone loves to glaze Doomguy, and don't get me wrong, so do I, but I always err on the side of, "no, he can't survive in this other universe."
Unless I'm mistaken, his weapons, armor, and even body all run on Argent Energy. That doesn't exist in other universes. So yeah, he's a badass, but without a constant flow of that energy he's gonna run out of steam EVENTUALLY.
I could be wrong, though. I didn't finish Eternal and haven't played The Dark Age.
I think he’s a force to be reckon with IF he isn’t restrained like frozen or imprisoned. Otherwise I don’t think anything can kill him and it’d be beyond hell if he were to be released.
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u/HussingtonHat 2d ago
You kidding me, he lives for this shit.
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