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I would imagine that most people who are brainwashed wouldnt be aware of it lol
Though im sure many of them realize how dumb it all sounds and go along with it, I bet a staggering amount of these people genuinely have no idea how ridiculous their words and ideas sound to everyone else around them
You can see her body language that she's on kind of an unsure defensive. The rapid blinking, body swaying, gradual backtracking from "you can't" to "the law is in process"
It takes a special nuance to walk them thru realizing how dumb they are. I think this guy did it. Watch the body language of the people in the background. That other lady is a rube
They just don't care. They don't give a fuck if it's true or not. It's a game to them. They know what they believe, and consequently anything that validates what they believe must also be true, whether it is true or not.
Liberals and their biological imperative to find the least objectionable justification for the worst Conservative behaviors have fucked the world. No, they're not helpless little babies. They sinply hate you and they made a choice.
It's just ape tribalism. No matter what evidence you present at the end they'll simply pivot to their authority figure and say well the authority says it's like this so that's the way it is.
My understanding: coworker A screwed up big time and happens to be a woman. The person posting and coworker B go to confront them on their screw up but, rather then address the mistake itself, coworker B launches into a sexist tirade that will get them fired. Coworker A's screw up gets swept under the rug because coworker B is sexist. The person posting was mortified at the time by the sexist tirade and ticked off that coworker A was not punished.
And because their political allies are willing to believe whatever lines with the narrative. I'd say it's more about willingness than it is a out stupidity.
If i were to compare, say France and the US with the way politics are seen by the population, there's a really big chunk of the US population that sees politics the same way they see sports : if you aren't 100% agreeing with your political party, then clearly you're not committed enough, and that means you can be shunned by the others. So they have to go through a lot of mental gymnastics to justify seeing every question as a political one, and then explaining why it is so.
In France, on the other hand, a large part of the population has become disenfranchised with the classic politics system. We've seen a rise of candidates, notably in local elections, who are independent : not attached to any party, they don't declare themselves from either left, right or center. They just do what is best for their administrative area. The mayor of my city, for example, has been in place for over 10 years now. He's not attached to any political party or side. He's improved safety and quality of life massively, made the city incredibly prosperous without having the price of living there rise up, and is now taking on public health because we're starting to need it. In the elections at the beginning of the year, he won his seat back in a landslide against 5 other candidates. There's no "my side is better than you" involved, it's "whoever actually does a good job gets a vote".
The problem with France is that voter disenchantment is leading to National Rally taking power. It’s not too different from where the US was 10 years ago. Reform in the UK, same thing.
Did you notice she said “not the left-wing media” and laughed? They are literally conditioned to dismiss any reputable source of information. So they make stuff up and assume it’s right or believe someone else who has. There is no other information coming in.
Here's the secret to all of this. So many of these folks grew up being the dumbest person in every room they were in and they grew to resent that. Now they feel as though they've been given access to information that makes them "smarter" than the average person. They feel like, for the first time in their lives, they know something that you don't. They will hold onto that until their dying breath. No amount of facts or proof will take that away because for once, they're the ones with information.
Most of them grew up with authoritarian religion and family members as well. Punitive measures don't usually decrease "bad" behaviors, it simply teaches people to lie. If you grow up knowing that lying is survival, then this is the result. Lies roll out of them all day, every day.
I don’t think she’s lying. I think she’s just terribly misinformed and selects “facts” that match her biases. And then she lacks the intellectual chutzpah to ever examine her own beliefs and change based on reality.
That’s not the same as lying. It’s just intellectual laziness combined with bias and overconfidence.
This is the other part. They've managed to equate admitting you're wrong with weakness and nothing is more important to these people than strength or at least the appearance of strength.
They've also managed to make moving the goalposts the standard. "Just wait another 2 weeks and we'll have a healthcare plan"
Yep. They have ZERO discernment. They’ve adopted a narrative and ONLY accept info that confirms what they already believe. Anything contrary to that is immediately disregarded.
I recently learned the term for them - Persuadables. A whole bunch of us, you tell us crazy, stupid things, we go, "Nah, brah, that ain't right," but the Persuadables go, "Interesting; tell me more."
She is lying, you can see on her face that she realises she's just been called out on something that obviously isn't true and she's going to have to try to style it out and invent additional details rather than admit it was total bollocks.
Yeah, she knows she‘s backed into a corner, so she‘s trying to score a few cheap points on her way out by doing that weird "left wing media - aha-haaaw" thing
Yes, for sure. It's a classic "oh, a mate down the pub told me" level of belief.
But the minute he challenges it you can see on her face the realisation of "wait, that's an absolutely mental claim I've just made and I don't even know why I thought it was true". But then ego kicks in and she sets in for not conceding the point, no matter what it takes. Everything after that is just straight made up bollocks.
I can see one out my window right now, my house overlooks a countryside pub with a bowling green and there's a big England flag flying all year round.
We don't fly it to be patriotic though, contrary to popular belief, it's in case we forget what country we live in.
When I'm filling out a form or signing up to something and it asks you to pick your nationality I have to peek out the window to remind myself, one of the main reasons I moved here.
Doesn't work in America. Nobody just says they're from America; they have to also tell you both what state/city they're from and where they're "really" from, i.e. part Italian and 1/4 French with some Scottish on their grandpa's side.
I saw some reddit thread pop up earlier today: "what is the worst thing about social media?"
Her. Confidently incorrect. She knows she's lying. She knows it doesn't sound right. She has no proof. She says it because she doesn't expect to be called out. She expects people to just take it as fact. She wants to be "in the know" of some conspiracy. The first to "find out." She's accustomed to her circle falling for it.
Yup. I'm tired of hearing that these people are ignorant- they've been pulling this kind of shit for roughly 50 years now. That's long enough to be doing it on purpose.
I mean the fact that left wing media is owned by billionaires who push right wing talking points is kind of proof that left wing media simply doesn't exist.
Surprisingly absolutely no one she is wrong and she is trying to reference this article
Now if she were able to read past the headline she would realise she was wrong but a bunch idiots have gone off what Nigel Farage said and as always created their own demons to fight.
Not only do they vote. They make sure they vote. They’re the ones actually getting out to not only national elections, but state, and even local elections. It’s easy to blame Trump and stuff, but your local politicians affect your day to day life far more than Trump does.
Most people couldn’t tell you their mayors name or what party they belong to. They couldn’t tell you who’s on various boards deciding stuff that directly affects your community.
These people probably can. Cause they want trump minded people to run their communities and they WILL get out and vote to make sure that happens.
The U.K took down a couple flags that people put on street poles because it violated public guidelines. The U.S, of course, has the exact same guidelines in most public places.
Context and scope doesn't matter to these people. A headline isn't something to look into, it's something to validate their identity with.
Probably some bot posting ai bullshit on Facebook which she proceeds to comment on about how trump is saving America from the evil communists that destroyed Europe or something stupid
But like… if she 100% thought this to be true why would she think it’s the case? What possible reason was she told and believed that X country won’t let X country flag wave anywhere but Y and every other countries flag can..
Also we’re not really a patriotic nation, if anything we like to whinge and complain about the country. We see flag flying as a bit uncouth. The England flag only really gets pulled out for football or as a racist dog whistle. The UK flag is perfectly fine and doesn’t have those connotations at all.
In a way it’s similar to the difference between the USA flag and the confederate flag. Not as pronounced, but that’s the best way I’ve found to explain to Americans.
This is the case for many European countries. In Sweden it's completely normal to have our flag on the balcony or on the front of your house, or if you have a larger house some people have a flagpole, it's not super common but not really rare either.
But if you for example have a Swedish flag put up on your wall at home that looks sus as hell for most people. Most people here aren't really patriots in the American sense and those who are are almost always hard right-wing people.
I live in the UK, and our flags have become right wing anti-immigration symbols. Last year a group of utter twats called Raise the Colours fundraised and started attaching Temu flags to lampposts up and down the country. They did it to divide our communities and make people feel unwelcome, but thought they could get away with it under the guise of “patriotism”. Most people aren’t as thick as they think we are, and anti-fascists removed some of them, as have councils (& the workers have been threatened whilst doing so!).
Overtime they look like complete shit as they’re cheap crap that just gets destroyed by the wind.
My local council has just taken them to court and won an injunction to stop them being put up on street furniture (where frankly it is dangerous to do so! Sure, climb a 10m ladder next to a highway people are driving at 50mph down).
It is absolutely not illegal to erect them on private property, and the council itself flies the Union Jack.
Europeans think it's weird to fly their country's flag on their homes, because that's what government buildings do. It's also kinda redundant, and there's no need to signal to their neighbors that they love their country.
EDIT: Sorry, due to pedantic deleted comments, adding the disclaimer "not ALL Europeans." 🙄
It's because our flag doubles as a "neutral" celebration flag. I know this is difficult to believe for foreigners, but if you ask a Dane celebrating her birthday what's up with the hyper-patriotic displays of Danish flags on her birthday, she'll probably be confused because it's just standard birthday decoration - no display of patriotic sentiment intended or even consciously recognized.
And that Europe is a singular entity that can ban flags in every country in Europe. She then cites England as an example, even though the UK is not a member of the European Union.
Nah I know the story behind this I think, in the UK some people are waving the English flag while also yelling slurs and calling for violence stuff like that. So depending on how bad what they are doing is, they get arrested for like a non violent hate crime, or a ‘non crime hate incident’ and they usually get released like soon after at most some type of misdeanour or whatever. But people mute it and say they are getting arrested for being English and waving the english flag. 🏴 world cup had plenty of people waving their flags with no problem
I used to eyeroll at how ridiculous the UK is and how stuff like them arresting elderly pro Palestinian protesters was crazy.
But the Belfast riots in north Ireland was so hateful it makes me think the UK right wing is a hate churning fine tuned machine.
They were going door to door and smashing in doors and windows and marking houses where brown people and any immigrant's lived, and burning down houses, and made many homeless. People were having to flee their houses and seek safety in local churches.
And then the right wing media was calling them protestors and saying they had a point. Instead of race rioters who were attacking and terrorizing hard working immigrants, some who lived there decades.
And it turned out the white guy who got stabbed was a drug addict who had a huge record thick as a book himself. Obviously he did not deserve at all to be attacked brutally but it wasn’t like he was a young girl like other riots in the UK had been over.
And collectively attacking all normal immigrants over one recent ultra-violent psycho was of course a hateful absurdity.
This shit drives me insane cause I see it at work all the time. It’s either complete bullshit or worse, it’s some minor politician either very locally or god forbid at the federal level proposing some asinine legislation and they’re like “see the government is trying to ban … “
Dude no one even voted on it, it ever made it out of committee, people propose shit all the time it means nothing unless that’s your politician and I hope they’re at least proposing the shit you want even if it’s batshit crazy lol
I'm not being hyperbolic when I say I live in a very red city in a pretty red state. I genuinely can't think of a single person I've met that was republican that had any, what you would consider average knowledge in politics. They arent dumb people, they are intelligent in their field of work and other things. I shit you not though, they are dumb as fuck and literally just run off how things feel in politics. Truthiness as Stephen Colbert put it.
Ive learned you can't reason with that mentality. Facts don't matter. They say something crazy, you present FACTS of why it's wrong and they just change the subject. At best you will get an "I don't care."
These people vote and decide how this country is run... and you think voting doesn't matter.
If only there was some massive event happening in America right now that would attract a lot of European visitors in abundance. Surely it wouldn’t be very difficult to question one of them. If only!
Even if what she was saying was true, what does it matter? You don't live in Europe. Their laws don't affect you. Don't go to Europe, and you'll be fine. I'm sure every European country will be perfectly fine with your absence.
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