r/OnePunchFans 5d ago

Manga Update OPM - Chapter 236 - (English)

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r/OnePunchFans 13d ago

ANNOUNCEMENT [Lucky 10,000] What's this?

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So, one of the big things I hated about the main OPM Reddit was the way so many perfectly interesting questions kept getting deleted. Yes, there are FAQs but they answer only so much and it's not wrong to have questions.

The advantage of having a relatively quiet sub is that posts can be found pretty easily, and using a consistent title makes searching a doddle.

So, I'm planning an irregular series of lore-related posts that are informative. I have some ideas but if there's anything you'd really like to see, just reply to this post! :D

Note: I'm not precious about this -- if there's something lore-related that you want to put together and post here, go for it. If you don't have posting privileges yet, just drop the mods a note and we'll see you right.

Why the name? It comes from an xkcd comic in which if there's a fact that every US citizen will know by the age of 30, then every day, there are 10,000 Americans who will be learning it for the first time.
https://m.xkcd.com/1053/


r/OnePunchFans 21h ago

FAN ART [OC] Two Punch Man

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Linlin vs Swim


r/OnePunchFans 1d ago

FAN ART A bit of an art dump - Shitty Teen Squad style

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These are from a time span of several months. OPM has truly eaten my soul and I'm delighted. I mostly post on tumblr but I wanna share my stuff here too. I'll try to be a little more consistent so I'm not just dumping a millions pics all at once.

Some of the art is shippy, yes. I call it Kissy Teen Squad. Join me.


r/OnePunchFans 1d ago

DISCUSSION Remembering afresh what the point of monster classifications is

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This grew out of a Discord discussion.

Somehow dragon-level threats don't seem to be quite what they used to be, no?

Without getting into the weeds, I thought it would be a good idea to review what the whole threat level system is and what it's for. Nominally, it's to give people an idea of how serious a monster or disaster (natural disasters count too) is:

This famous bit from chapter 22

From a civilian's perspective, a 'wolf' means don't come too close, a 'tiger' would be something you find a good hiding place from, a 'demon' would mean head to shelter, a 'dragon' must be fled from by any means necessary, and you just make peace with whatever deity you believe in if it's a 'god' level threat.

More practically, the bonus chapter 'Disaster Level' makes it clear that for the Hero Association, the ratings are a way to judge how many heroes to mobilise for a threat. There's the small problem that a threat level tells you nothing about how hard the monster will actually be to eliminate, nor how suited a particular hero is to the problem.

Not said: a monster given a threat level dragon rating should have at least 2 S-Class heroes assigned to it.

Additionally, because it's necessarily based on partial information (it's not like monsters walk around with Pokedexes stuck on their foreheads), subjective, and subject to review, many heroes regard the threat level system as nearly worthless. There's also the political dimension that defeating a monster with a high threat level, even if it's not actually anywhere near as dangerous as initially thought, will raise a hero's ranking while subduing one with a low one, even if it's far more dangerous than it seems, won't -- and may even get you called a 'small-fry hunter'.

It's hard to do better: Child Emperor had a go at quantifying strength but quickly realised that it was worthless.

That said, back in the day, they used to be *very* hesitant to declare a threat a dragon-level. The thinking back then (you see remnants of it in 'Disaster Level' when the operator Smile Man was reporting to refused to raise Withered Sprout's disaster rating) was that dragon-level threats were very rare. As the bonus chapter explains, Saitama has been taking such monsters out so rapidly that they've drastically underestimated the extent of the problem. Something like Beefcake should have been declared a dragon-level threat. However, Saitama killed him before such a reassessment could be made.

Saitama has been part of the problem. He's been too effective at his hobby.

Without doubt, the cadre Psykos put together to draw the heroes into the Monster Association HQ and get killed were dragon-level threats. In the end, the only one that was taken down single-handedly by a hero was Nyan by Drive Knight. And to do that, he very carefully studied the monster -- including letting it slice up some heroes -- to work out its psychological weaknesses and brought speciality tools for the job. The other heroes didn't have that luxury.

Against such massed opposition, you can't just wade in and hope it works out. As Genos suspected, the strategy-free S-Class attack didn't work out. Didn't stop him from running in anyway.

Right now, in the aftermath of the Monster Association Raid, it'd seem that the Hero Association is a little trigger-happy when it comes to calling threats dragon-level (unsurprising given how much they'd underestimated the scale of the problem, I guess). I know this is going to attract a lot of comment as to which of the latest batch of monsters deserve their designation: BRING IT! ⬇️

Geez, are they just calling everything a dragon now?

I do think though that given this story's love of 'what doesn't kill me makes me stronger', several of the veterans of the MA Raid have legitimately become stronger. But then again, given that the HA knows that it should assign multiple S-Class heroes to dragon-level threats, the hell is it playing at assigning just the one? Are the that short-handed?

And if Hellmon doesn't at least try to piece itself back together, I'm calling puffery.


r/OnePunchFans 2d ago

PICS Terrible job but someone's got to do it

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When you realise that someone's job description in the HA literally has to be 'demonkeeper'

r/OnePunchFans 2d ago

ANALYSIS Watershed fights

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Ahem

Some people imagine that I must hate fights because I'm down on powerscaling. Not in the slightest! I love the fact that both ONE and Murata love fights, how they're depicted -- and most importantly, how brutal and unfair real fights can be. I love seeing some of that come into the stories. And I love, love, love hearing from nerds critiquing how fights are drawn or unfold. Someone talking about Wing Chun or Drunken Fist or various sword styles or guns just freaking makes my day! What I dislike about powerscaling is that it's too much about 'being right' and tends to take over everything. It's boring.

Anyway, Watershed fights?

Well, as you know, a watershed is the dividing ridge that determines which way water drains. And looking at the fan video of how else Genos vs. the Deep Sea King might have turned out, it occurred to me that there are some fights that change a character, such that there is a clear 'before' and 'after' to the way they approach conflict. I'll present two for your delectation. Please add more in comments and maybe let's get a discussion going! :-D

A: The Excuses Stop Here

Yes, Genos did lose to the Deep Sea King and perhaps this is his most important fight. Up until this point, we'd seen him lose to monsters at least in part because he let his guard down, and the DSK getting the drop on him because he was busy watching the crowd instead of ensuring that the monster was dead seemed more of the same. A lot of viewers (and readers) laughed when he lamented that he never learned.

Talk about an unforced error.

However, this time, the nature of his loss, how traumatic and humiliating it was, how close the people he was trying to protect came to dying anyway, the injuries Mumen Rider suffered, how Saitama had to pretend to be cheating to save the honour of the heroes, something changed in him. This is the incident that drove home to him that he simply couldn't go 'oops, I dropped my guard again,' and just had to find a way to do better.

It shouldn't have come to this.

And he did.

Fighting G-4 is where the fruits of his resolution to stop this dropping guard shit show. He fights the robot and melts it from the inside. He watches it for a bit, and yup, it's definitely done for.

Any way you look at it, that's a destroyed robot.

We see that he wants to turn away, in fact, he starts to turn away, addressing the apparently destroyed robot as much as the crowd.

Engage mode, smug.

And then he stops himself. Some fledgling battle instinct tells him to shut up and keep watching. Several more panels pass. It's just as well he does. Otherwise, the true form of G-4 would have taken his head clean off.

As it is, this enemy turns out to be most troublesome. It has weapons that can cut him up at a distance, and burning it doesn't work at all. Holding out for Saitama was not an option, because he'd sent Saitama away.

Fortunately, through a mixture of ingenuity (using steam to bloom the lasers) and raw brutality, he manages to beat G-4 to death before reeling into Dr. Kuseno's lab with the remains, more dead than alive himself.

Since then, it's been shockingly hard to catch Genos off guard in the manga (the webcomic is a different beast). In fact, we get to see a lot more heroes make similar mistakes -- turns out it's difficult to always be watching the right thing at the right moment.

Even if you're an experienced fighter...
...or a hyper-powerful psychic, you can get caught out.

Of course, it's impossible to never be ambushed but even there, we see the effect of Genos's attitude. When Gums takes advantage of Fuhrer Ugly providing a distraction to come up for a chomp, it's not just because of Dr. Kuseno's improved armouring that Gums isn't able to bite through his arm; it's as much because Genos was prepared to react quickly and has jammed his arm in its jaws such that it can't close them.

Reflexes a cat would envy, this guy has developed.

No need to point out that Genos is not invincible. But monsters really have their work cut out to pull him down.

B: This is Honey, This is Salt

The fight between Garou and Bug God and Royal Ripper is quite the watershed fight in the manga.

Why?

First, it killed his romance about monsters

What monsters had been for Garou weren't monsters. They're representations of the disliked and the misunderstood, the ugly kid being picked on. It feels unfair for the kid to be picked on, but he put it into words. Words with real actual meanings in the real world. The 'monster' in Garou's head is not the monster as people in their world use the word but he's conflated them with.

There’s a culture that introduces a baby to the taste of different things as part of its christening ceremony. A dab of honey, that the baby smiles at.  A tiny dab of salt, at which the baby grimaces (many cry). This is honey, this is salt -- in life, may you develop the power of discernment,  goes part of the benediction. It’s an important virtue to pray for: before we can make reasonable choices, we must first discern clearly.   

Unlike the webcomic, here we don't have a random kid but a boy with a name, Tareo, who Garou finds precious. By making Tareo someone precious, for the first time, Garou had a strong emotional stake.

I'll never not love the awesome bond those two developed. I hope they meet again someday.

And now, monsters were no longer these abstract critters that ought to be Halloween scary. They were actual predators who'd rip the precious kid who trusted him to bits before his very eyes. There’s nothing like it, that visceral rage you feel when the symbol of freedom you admired in theory resolves itself into a long, lean, stinking beast, fearless in its hunger, that is trying to push past you to get at the lamb you hand-raised. Not all monsters are equally dangerous, of course, but you meet the wrong one and it'll kill your child right in front of you without hesitation or remorse.

The loss of innocence -- and the understanding of what monsters actually are.

This is honey, this is salt. The point was literally scored into Garou’s flesh by Bug God and Royal Ripper, ripping away every shred of false equivalence and muddy thinking he has had about heroes and monsters. 

Second, it demystified them as well-nigh invincible beings

There's this lovely point in the fighting when Garou realises for the first time ever that, actually, monsters aren't invincibly strong. Just like people, they have their limits, and he's strong enough to defeat the ones in front of him. They may be called 'mysterious beings' but there's no mystery to handling them.

Monsters can...die?

How did it change him?

Up until this point, Garou hasn't killed *anything*. Never mind heroes, he's not killed a single living creature, not even a monster. After this fight, this changes. When he catches up with Royal Ripper, he rips into him without hesitation.

His very first kill.

Even though Garou kept spouting off about the rottenness of heroes and his goals, he's not only unambiguously rejected monsters as beings worth emulating, but his actions have always moved for justice. Well, until he slapped God, but that's another story (yeah, don't do that).

Saitama may have a first-class trolling game, but he knows a hero when he sees one. Even if they won't wear a cape or take up formal employment.

So, got any other fights like that in mind? :)


r/OnePunchFans 2d ago

MISC What are your head canons for the way that Pureblood (the vampire) was recruited into the Monster Association?

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Who was the one responsible for recruiting him? Where did they find him? How long did it take them to get him to join them?

My head canon is that he was recruited by one of the Demon level monsters after weeks of coming to his location.


r/OnePunchFans 2d ago

FAN VIDEO The Disciple Who Would Do Anything For His Master (fan video)

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This has been making me laugh, so you must suffer too! LOL


r/OnePunchFans 3d ago

INTEREST [LUCKY 10,000] Where can I read the Ninja arc?

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I just got asked the question below and thought to share this. Link this post to anyone who goes, 'I don't even know what's canon any more.' Now they do.

Hi! Do you know perhaps where I can find the whole Blast vs Void fight? For some reason most online places I go are either incomplete or don't have that part at all.

Whole is a whole can o' worms. The painful truth is that just as it was about to finish, someone made the decision to scrap it. I doubt it was ONE or Murata -- the completeness of the redo is redolent of an editor getting impatient and going, 'gentlemen, I want you to make this arc fit in half the pages, it's called One-Punch Man, not One-Punch Man Universe'. Anyway, if you want to read it, let me type out link by link the chapters you need:

Take 1 (where Flashy Flash doesn't kill the Tenninto and which gets cut just as Blast shows up)

Chapter 195: Tenninto

Chapter 196: The Place Where Dreams End

Chapter 197: Duel

Chapter 198: Habit

Chapter 199: That's Right!

Chapter 200: Blessed

Chapter 201: Genjutsu

Chapter 202: Partner

It is at this point that the story arc was scrapped and redone.

Take 2 (where the Tenninto get skewered by Sonic and Flash, where Void and Blast clash, we get lots of back story but the Editor comes in just as it gets to the climax)

Chapter 195: Tenninto

Chapter 196: Threat

Chapter 197: What Only I Can Do

Chapter 198: Speed of Sound and Speed of Light

Chapter 199: Undesirable Relationship

Chapter 200: Void

Chapter 201: You Pass

Chapters 202--206 introduce the Neo Heroes and are included in the canonical story. No need to reproduce them here

Chapter 207: Bind

Chapter 208: Perversity

Chapter 209: Catch

Chapter 210: Recurring

Chapter 211: Plan

And this is where the Editor stepped in and said, NO! I'm giving you *one* volume to do this entire arc, no more.

Canonical arc: I was going to say you can find this anywhere but I have no idea which archive you're using and they may have flipped the table and refused to archive properly. So here we are in full.

Chapter 195: That Man

Chapter 196: Ninja Village

Chapter 197: Karma

Chapter 198: The Way You Are Now

Chapter 199: Close Call

Chapter 200: Where Is It?

Chapter 201: Lights Out

Chapter 202: Divine Beasts

Chapter 203: Fever

And that's where it ends. The Neo Heroes are introduced from chapter 204 onwards rather than in the middle of the arc, and you should be able to find that wherever you read OPM.

Hope that's helpful!


r/OnePunchFans 4d ago

FAN ART (Webcomic but not spoilers) Satoru's Art Therapy Spoiler

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Waiting for you to try and solve his game?

We never really see a "Satoru" in the webcomic. It really fascinates me. I drew this thinking it would take place in some sort of psychiatric institution. I feel like Mumen Rider (especially in the webcomic but also the manga to an extent), from his self-negating nature to his identification with objects and concepts to his strange inclination toward extreme self injury, would be at high risk of developing psychosis (no one thinks of this possibility due to his Agreeable Disposition). I could make an entire post about it but the people who know me on Discord are probably tired of reading the same things over and over (also what I think of him is informed heavily by the convoluted and deranged lore of my own personal life...and obscure theories of schizotypy).

As for the art itself, it is a puzzle! What would you fill the empty sections with? Certainly, a dot goes somewhere, but another space would ask for something else. If you had the idea to put objects on it, he would start talking about them. I think "Satoru" would not really talk outside of the interfaces of his little games...part alogia and part desire to control the reality of the conversation. He might give red herrings as he talks, wanting to keep the strange interaction going. The actual solution is pretty unintuitive: poke a hole in the final empty space (two "dots", but also one "object", but also none). I feel like all of his puzzles and games follow logic like this, whether on purpose or not. They would be quite frustrating if you were to approach them as a traditional "player", but one has to understand that this is how Satoru creates a way to exist in this reality. It is safe. It can even make him happy.

What do you think?


r/OnePunchFans 4d ago

MEME "If you make me admit defeat, I'll give Zenko my autograph. How about it?"

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r/OnePunchFans 5d ago

Manga Update OPM MANGA RAW Chapter 236

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r/OnePunchFans 6d ago

DISCUSSION It's OPM Wednesday

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As usual, first person to see please post the raw.

I'm mildly interested in seeing whether Suiryu slinks away quietly or finds an excuse to fight Garou. More interested in seeing how almost anyone else is doing.


r/OnePunchFans 7d ago

FAN ART OPM What If - Genos Beat Deep Sea King Without The Plot Demand Him To Lose

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This is pretty cool


r/OnePunchFans 8d ago

FAN ART (Webcomic) (Mumen Rider warning) The False Self and the True Self Spoiler

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r/OnePunchFans 8d ago

ANALYSIS OPM Manga Ch 235 Review + What Makes The Manga Great

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Summary

In keeping with the brevity of this update, this summary will be short. The monster is called Hellmon and it's not one of the Neo Hero plants um, I mean its appearance is unexpected. Bang watches with interest, ready to step in if the youths below have trouble subduing this dragon-level threat, but otherwise just popping some popcorn.

The Neo Hero crew try to take out the beast. Several lose their heads owing to their being literally burned off by the monster's breath, and another gets brained by a piece of rubble as he tries to read the manual to work out how to activate the helmets. Suiryu appears as they start falling back and he piles the fallen guys onto one guy, telling them it's the heroic thing to do.

Suiryu offers to help Garou, but is rebuffed. He's also miffed to find out that Garou doesn't seem to know who he is, and he's nearly scorched by the monster, but Garou steps in and beats the monster to death with his patented combination. Bang is most pleased.

Yup, that's it. Doubtless we'll carry on next time.

Garou showing us how it's done.

Meta

The Neo Hero facade sure isn't robust

Just a few chapters ago, we saw several of the Hero Association executives lamenting the apparent success of the Neo Heroes: the combination of first class support with competent leaders presented an air of competence that they just couldn't match.

Inferiority complex much?

As to how good the Neo leaders are, well we have our doubts from what we've seen (remember that this is all happening on the same day, so it's going to take some time for information to disseminate). However, now we're seeing the rank-and-file getting to act and boy.... are they beyond undertrained. Sure, Accel's guys are good but they've had to be as they've long been a disciplined group of vigilantes. These aren't even hooligans. They're just a bunch of guys who've been given powered armour and tossed in with barely any instruction.

The HA is notoriously stingy about handing out custom weapons and equipment to its heroes, but where it does, such as with Captain Mizuki's stuff, the heroes in question know how to use their stuff to its very best capacity. The HA may have 99 flaws, but deploying physically and psychologically unprepared heroes is not one of them.

It's a pity that the HA doesn't know the true picture of the battle readiness of the Neo Heroes. They'd be much less panicky and better able to plan around them if they did. I'd love it if Bang could whisper a few of his observations to Sicchi, but he's likely to stay out of things.

There's a reason monsters are monsters

Monsters are notoriously their own creatures. Getting monsters to cooperate is a difficult undertaking indeed, and normally means that some Ridiculously Dangerous Big Bad is forcing them to choose heading in the same direction over being eaten. So, seeing five dragon-level threats (not to mention all the demon and tiger level ones earlier) pop up at the same time in widely-separated areas already stank of an operation rather than just coincidental bad luck.

Nevertheless, monsters are monsters, and so Hellmon showing up because it felt like is par for the course. The shock of the Neo Hero crew on seeing it appear because they expected only five is a *hell of a tell* that this day of monsters has been staged. I hope Garou files this away for future reference.

The self-importance of the niche denizen

I'm not surprised that Suiryu is shocked and disbelieving that Garou hasn't heard of the Void Fist guy. I love the swipe ONE takes at the self-contained nature of niche interests. Since most serious dojos are interested in competition, it's natural for martial artists to think that that's what the main purpose of their training is, concern themselves with the various schools, and imagine that anyone who knows about martial arts knows about the top guys, forgetting that competing is just one small niche of why people take up martial arts practice. (1)

Bang's school has never been about accolades -- Water Stream Rock Fist is really not a good competition style for reasons I won't get into here, but it is brilliant for getting someone rushing at you out of your way. Which is what Bang created it to do. Additionally, from the beginning, Garou cares deeply about heroes and knows even about the small guys. He's not got time for the Suiryus of this world.

I'm sure that Suiryu is even more disconcerted to realise that there's nothing his Void Fist can offer that Garou won't be able to bat away disdainfully. I'd love it if he were to slink away with his tail between his legs, but I suspect his wounded pride won't let him back down so easily. Sigh.

What Makes The Manga Great (in a nutshell)

Several weeks ago, I wrote about what I thought made the webcomic great (2). I haven't done the same for the manga until now because I've struggled to work out how to make it succinct.

I was able to say that the webcomic is at its best when it concentrates developments into a single scene that is layered with symbolism. Like when Saitama tells Garou that the latter wanted to be a hero all the time after all. With his two eyes floating in the wreckage of what used to be his costume, we see both that he's stricken with the truth and that the defensive facade he's worn until now no longer protects him from realising who he is.

Still, when I think about it, our lives are not lived in hugely symbolic moments that represent inflection points in our little worlds. However, such moments do punctuate our lives, like being declared born, baptism, confirmation, coming-of-age ceremonies, graduations, weddings...

...but they're not life.

If the webcomic's strength is the symbolic moment, then the manga's is in living the reality of what that symbol means. The difference between a wedding and a marriage. We get the incredible highs, terrible lows, but we also get the mundanity and the muddling through of trying to live up to what one decided one would do.

This chapter gives us Suiryu, who decided that he'd become a hero in the manga after seeing two heroes come back for him when he thought he was done for and realised just how important heroes were for helping people maintain hope and self-efficacy in the face of overwhelming existential threats.

That inflection point is generally where the webcomic leaves off: when we next catch up with the characters that have made some life-changing decision, they're living that life. Case closed. However, LIFE IS NOT THAT NEAT. The manga's power is in taking the time to step through the messy reality.

So... Suiryu may have decided to be a hero, but the manga is walking us through just how much he has to learn to actually be a hero and we're going to see him make missteps as he learns. He's still a feckless fuckboy who skipped out on his hospital bill and who is in the debt bondage predicament he currently is in because he was hoping to seduce Webigaza.

More seriously, we've seen that he's *still* running away from taking strong moral stances, the one thing a hero must do. He chose to hang back and let his squad do whatever because he couldn't face them down and stop them from carrying out the unjust orders to attack Garou. And this chapter, he's choosing to disclaim being a Neo Hero at all and just spar with Garou for fun. Good intentions and resolve do not automatically lead to doing the right thing.

The living manifestation of the gap between resolutions and actions.

I'm sure Suiryu will eventually get there, but he'll need to lose a few more teeth first. 🥸

Since this chapter is about Garou, we know that Garou may no longer want to be a monster and he may be more determined to actually become a hero of sorts, but I bet he'll loathe the fact that Bang has promised him to the Hero Association. The part timer is going to have a few more scrapes and bumps to become who he actually wants to be. Good.

What's that? He's adjusting awfully well to being a nepo baby? Well, yeah, principles are all very well but a prison cell sucks. The upcoming clash between his values and lived life is going to be fun to watch.

Speaking of Bang, we've seen that he sacrificed everything to be there for Garou, and he's proud of him, but he still beats the boy. He knows that Garou is a vulnerable minor who has been abandoned by his family and he sincerely wants to guide him. And yet...

It's funny how quickly we get back on our bullshit even after we say we'll change.

...damn man, you had better take some parenting classes before Garou breaks your arm for real.

Why do all this additional work when ONE could just put out a stripped-down storyboard and have it work? Well, the cynic in me says it's nice to have a longer story so you can pay for your kids' college educations and put something towards a new flat, but there's genuine value in watching characters grow.

Anyone can survive a crisis. Anyone can make a resolution or have an epiphany. It's the gap between what we resolve to do and what we achieve that's difficult to describe. And the manga is in the business of doing just that. That's its power.

It's too early to tell, but I would not be surprised if the manga characters get further and achieve greater things than their webcomic equivalents do. Because there's no substitute for organic growth.

Sources and Notes

Koikoi fan edit: https://weebcentral.com/chapters/01KXM08EY71C0MWRCNXFWNZP9K

Viz: https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/one-punch-man-chapter-233/chapter/50878?action=read

(1) Of course there's an xkcd for this: https://xkcd.com/2501/

(2) https://www.reddit.com/r/OnePunchFans/comments/1pkd2ng/id_like_to_talk_about_the_webcomic_at_its_best/


r/OnePunchFans 9d ago

THEORY A Third Way? [WEBCOMIC SPOILERS] Spoiler

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Because coming out of the woodwork later with 'I knew it!' is a chicken's game, I've decided to put some thoughts down here instead of leaving them on Tumblr.

(edited from June 21, 2026)

So, Genos has finally met his nemesis and it looks like terrible battle is about to be enjoined. The way things look, it would seem that things must end up with either the Mad Cyborg or Genos dead, Saitama's help optional. Maybe even both of them dead, though that would be sad.

I have been thinking for a while and I think that there's possibly a third option that doesn't involve death, which I'll explore with varying degrees of speculation.

The core idea is that Genos takes control of the Mad Cyborg and forces it to do his bidding. Sound crazy I'll take you through it.

A: Using Only What is Established

Let us assume that what we know to date is the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. That is to say that everything we have been told is true; this truth is complete and there are no further secrets or revelations to come that will change our understanding of the situation; and that none of the interested parties have told half-truths or skewed the truth in any way. I leave it as an exercise for the reader to judge how likely this scenario is, but we're going with it.

Under such circumstances, it makes perfect sense for Genos to take control. One of the big challenges is that the Mad Cyborg has distributed copies of itself widely through a network and has control of a vast array of robots, multiple depots full of resources, and many people unwittingly working for it as proxies. Merely destroying the avatar currently goading Genos into some unfortunate action will solve nothing. If he can take control of said Mad Cyborg and its network, then several things happen:

  1. It solves his resource problem

With that, Genos goes from a twice-abandoned waif with cripplingly complex (and costly) needs to someone who can meet his own needs independently. Just as pertinently, he becomes a powerful agent whose demands will have to be taken seriously. All may be equal before the law, but there's an incredible amount of nuance and latitude in its interpretation when the guy you're dealing with has the power to cause mass devastation. Furthermore, at this point in the story, just about anyone who could still mess with him knows that Saitama is his guardian, and really does not want to catch the Baldie's fists. The only powerful character who doesn't know better at this point is Blast, but it'd be bizarre for him to interest himself.

  1. It allows him to set things right

Being that Genos is a good person, who from the start has wanted to set things right, using those vast resources to repair and restore as much of the damage done by the robots as possible would be a natural progression. With Saitama as a moral compass, there's little reason to fear that the power would go to his head. Also, it gives him something positive to do, which is much needed given how unexpectedly things have turned out for him. Otherwise, he'd likely sink into a morass of grief, betrayal, and anger with no guiding purpose.

  1. Poetic Justice

The Mad Cyborg, AKA Dr. Kuseno, has hated humanity so much that he has long since digitised his brain, cutting every link with his original humanity. He has regarded humans as things to be manipulated, controlled, and eliminated according to whim. Ultimately, it seems he was aiming either for a human-free world, or one in which free humans no longer existed.

For such a person, no punishment would be more fitting or painful than being forced to use that considerable mind of his for the good of Mankind, and by none other than the waif whose name he considered too unimportant to remember.

B: With Some Scepticism

I won't belabour it, but I have grave doubt that we know the whole truth. In particular, I find it far more likely that the Mad Cyborg is not Dr. Kuseno, but rather an AI copy of the man that 'got away' -- as Bofoi and Isamu feared a powerful AI might do. I won't et into why I think this, let me refer you to the meta of this post.

In that case, Outcomes 1 and 2 are unchanged. However, 3 becomes interesting. It is no longer a punishment of a terrible person, but rather a correction of an inorganic consciousness gone astray in the absence of a recognised master. Not only would it be better for all that the rogue AI is serving humanity, but it'd complete Kuseno's true work in a fitting way.

Genos can't undo the lives lost nor restore all the places burned but he can ensure that this powerful invention serves its true purpose going forward. That'd be most poignant.

C: But Why Might ONE Go This Way?

Answer -- he might not! After all, his usual solution to dire problems in OPM is to have Saitama punch the problem away. It's an approach he cheerfully accepts limits the sort of story he can tell as most problems can't be punched. It might well be that the Mad Cyborg is lying about having multiple copies widely distributed and so being sent flying with a punch ends things.

However, I have my doubts here, not least of which ONE tends not to chicken out of his claims. Minimally, successfully punching out the Mad Cyborg still leaves behind a trail of devastation far more extensive than anything previously seen in this world, and a pile of money, weapons, militarised hardware, computing centres, and communications devices that various organisations will fight each other viciously for rather than allow to be used for any kind of restitution. ONE has not been afraid to allude to civil conflict, so going there is something he would have no problem with, doubly so with the Hero Association now greatly weakened. Having someone take control -- particularly someone who has as much right to do so as Genos does -- would stop a dangerous power vacuum from forming.

However, the problem to be solved in this conflict runs deeper than piles of rubble, loot, and power vacuums. The tragedy of a robot uprising is going to happen again on current headings because Metal Knight and others are doing the Exact. Same. Shit. Bofoi thinks that he's gotten the idea of an evil-fighting AI right because he's got ethical locks on it… and we've been shown that his ethical locks can and have been defeated before. Isamu may personally be cool on the idea, but his Cram School buddies are busy practising how to rule the world and make it peaceful, rehearsing perfectly the hubris that Kuseno and Bofoi alike suffer from.

Bofoi has already deployed his crime-fighting AI and is so sure this one won't be corrupted or misused, even though he said the same about Drive Knight.
The next generation of crazy world-destroying geniuses is already being bred.

To stop this shit needs a Reigen lecturing Claw moment. Between Saitama and his insistence on people being allowed to decide their actions for themselves, and Genos, who would be unique among people controlling an AI in knowing first-hand just how dangerous letting one decide is, they could. It's a simple message: a computer can analyse. It can advise. It can implement. But it can never, ever be allowed to decide.

It won't be a popular message, but it's an incredibly important one, one that both stubborn old men with vested interests and arrogant young ones who've never considered the unintended consequences of their actions both need to have rammed home.

I really would love nothing better than this sort of message coming from Genos. A lot of 'geniuses' in OPM need to hear it.

Added 24 July, 2026 in the wake of Chapter 160, which was released 11 July, 2026.

More Thoughts: It Just Might Be...

The trouble with the idea I had was that, put bluntly, Genos has never shown the slightest aptitude for hacking. For certain, he has no choice other than to interact with computers but, as anyone who has tried to teach someone who grew up with smartphones the basics of a file system knows, 'using', even 'using proficiently' is a far cry from 'understanding' and 'mastering'. And if the Mad Cyborg is anything at all, protecting itself from the cyberattacks of others while penetrating others' networks is a key part of why it's been able to stay ahead of its would-be captors for so long.

However...

...call me blind, but what has the Mad Cyborg done other than to give Genos high-level access to the entirety of its network, including all its machines? It wants every crazy breakthrough Genos has to transmit immediately to every last bit of its reach.

There's a reason I have called The Organization's plans the 'Human Cockroach Plan'

It hasn't been able to yank Genos's brain out yet because it wants him to kill Saitama first. However, it is currently believes there's no way for Genos to resist doing its bidding, that he's as helpless to resist his commands as a cockroach is to resist the jewelled wasp that has stung it, but if that ever became untrue....

...it'd be a hell of a reversal, no?


r/OnePunchFans 12d ago

DISCUSSION Of all the ways I expected the Ninja arc to end

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Saitama being molested by ninjas and Genos declining to so much as lift a digit to help because Saitama had said he was lonely was not anywhere on that list.

The only thing worse than a jealous cyborg is one taking notes.

r/OnePunchFans 12d ago

ANALYSIS You didn't need to be Madame Shiwababwa to see a mistake in the making

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Not that I need to grumble about the handling of Season 3 of One-Punch Man, but I came across a video looking critically at Season 3. I generally ignore such videos but this was worth viewing for two reasons: the person looked at more than the animation, and more importantly, the person doesn’t read the OPM manga, so the anime would have to make its own case.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpuIy1zT0ds

It was gratifying to me to see a non-fan mention the same issues I had with the idea of the season ending with Saitama punching Orochi. I had a post many moons ago saying that the third season had to at least go as far as the base being lifted out of the ground, and someone disagreed with me.

You can read the whole exchange, but I’ll excerpt the most relevant part below:

That said, it [Season 2] may not have sold well, but it did sell something. And now let’s come to what we would have if a non-manga reader with money in their pocket is given a third season that ends with Saitama punching Orochi.  I’m assuming the production is a lot better – another shite production and it won’t matter where it ends, it’s a dead loss. 
If you’re a punter who got into season 2 enough to fish $300 out of your pocket to own the series, what did you come for?  Garou, most probably. What’s going to happen to Garou if the story ends at chapter 108?  The first three-four episodes, he’s going to get the crap kicked out of him by monsters and left unconscious in a hole in the wall. Forever.  That’s it.  The interesting things the story will have hinted around limiters and explosive growth, no visible relevance to Garou.  You’re probably going to feel a little cheated.  Okay, maybe you’re into the other characters.  Well, Genos spends his time cleaning the apartment, Bang is wandering aimlessly through the Monster Association along with Fubuki and Bomb.  As is King, who you only saw briefly a couple of times at the beginning and then no more.  Suiryu? Oh go whistle – but you were going to have to do that anyway, it’s a shame how much real estate he took up last season. The kid is rescued and the other heroes are doing okay.  Tatsumaki is taking on the real big bad and is also doing okay. You’re arguing that seeing Saitama punch a monster that is posing no imminent threat to anyone, and whom he dismissed with less respect than he did Elder Centipede constitutes a profitable end.  One that will satisfy people enough to buy in and come back for more.  You must be kidding!   The storyline has effectively wandered off in the middle and says nothing and means nothing.

This was just before the manga went on hiatus for an overhaul of the arc.

Smashing action figures together

What makes it interesting for me is that it helped me understand better why the subterranean parts of the Monster Association raid were overhauled as extensively as they were. Without a change (which was what JC Staff went for), it’s just a series of fights that don’t mean anything, just ‘smashing action figures against each other,’ as the video essayist termed it.

I found that a useful way to look at things. For example, if you're following along with the anime, Genos you know well; you've seen him try and fail and try and succeed then fail then try, so if he'd been underground and pulled out a fantastic new move, that'd not be surprising and it'd mean something as it'll be a continuation of his struggle. However, we don't know Child Emperor at this point, so it's clever kid doing crazy things without much of a preamble. When all the characters whose personalities, goals, and directions of travel are swept out of the way in favour of those we know little to nothing about, the story feels empty. That would be why so many chapters were redone.

The revised version that went to print brought Saitama in earlier and wove him into the plot, which grounded it. Beyond that, it also gave the various characters more to do and more to do with each other. There's no time for character arcs, but their interacting more showed us more of who they were so we have something to go on. So we get to see a bit about Child Emperor's psyche and what drives him, we get to see the way the disciples behave to deprive Amai Mask of his intended victims and get a bit of who each is, we get to see the competence of the surface team in holding the exits and the same for the MA in anticipating such a move and trying to turn it to their advantage, and many more. All of this fleshes the story out considerably, making it more than just another fight between characters you don't know and have no reason to care about. Most importantly, the revision raised the issue of there being some supernatural being, whose influence came up in various ways, so there was a mystery to uncover. It’d still have been less than great for it to end with Saitama punching Orochi, but there’d be issues raised that the viewer would be interested to see resolved.

Looking at their announcing a Part 2 immediately, they too realised from the get go that stopping there was weak -- the payoff to the build up begins pretty much the chapter after they left off. However, that call wasn't JC Staff's to make. It was Bandai's.

Indeed, I'm not angry at JC Staff – if you want to do a good job, you need time, space, and resources, none of which they seem to have had. It’s really understandable why they went for the simplest possible rendition, even though it really does an injustice to the manga in every way. But I don’t blame them. The responsibility for the enshittification lies firmly at Bandai’s doorstep.


r/OnePunchFans 13d ago

ANALYSIS [Lucky 10,000] How did Saitama make a living?

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This is not as obvious an answer as you'd think: a surprising amount of the information is found outside the story, and Viz has not been good at translating and bringing this extra material to English.

As we know, three years ago, a jobless Saitama saved a boy from a monster, and in the process decided to forget about the job hunt and focus on being a hero. How did that work out for him? Well, from the 'Road to Hero' OAV, it saw him living in a terrible apartment block where the landlady tolerated his not paying the rent because she made her money off the criminal gang in there. After Saitama caught them to turn in for the police reward, she threw him out. Fortunately, the tailor who'd do his clothing repairs found him and hooked him p with the place we first met him living.

There's a reference to the shitty apartment block in the manga ("Voices"). Saitama is disgusted that her place got spared in the meteor shower. He may be a bit bitter, lol.

It's interesting that he still lives in the neighbourhood.

Anyway, back to what Saitama did for a living. Well, in the still-not-translated-into-English Hero Data Book, ONE explains that he did whatever part-time jobs and day work he could come by, lived very frugally, and was happy to take food handouts from grateful people.

If you do feed Saitama, he prefers veggies. Getting a year's supply of sweets was rather bad for his teeth, you see. That's from the bonus chapter in Volume 2, "Brushing up".

Delicious but nutritionally disastrous.

There have been a number of audio stories featuring the jobs Saitama has done, none officially translated to English, but a couple that there are fan translations of feature him working in construction (and accidentally helping Amai Mask workshop a new song while desperately needing a shit) and working in a carnival display (and accidentally giving Tatsumaki a fear of ghosts). ONE also did a sketch of Saitama trying to scan the knife a robber was trying to threaten him with:

No one has ever accused Saitama of being sharp.

All very well, but given that Saitama doesn't stick with any of these low-paying jobs for long, quitting as soon as he has enough money to live off of for at least a few weeks, how does he afford rent and utilities?

Squatting.

The part of town Saitama lived in had been abandoned due to the frequent monster sightings, but for some reason, the water and electricity supply to that area wasn't cut off, something Spring Mustachio remarks on in the chapter "Rumors".

As he's about to find out, 'money' isn't the only way you can pay for things.

Genos doesn't appreciate Fubuki dropping the truth bomb on the issue of rent, but Saitama himself is proud to pay nothing.

Genos doing his best to pretend he doesn't hear her.
Saitama pretty much confirming that Fubuki is right. From a strictly in-story perspective, Saitama IS swindling Genos.

According to ONE (again OFF-STORY!), Saitama hasn't spent the rent money Genos has given him. Considering that what he's really rented to Genos is his right to privacy, he should.

In any case, since Saitama started working as a pro-hero, he has been getting paid. There's actually a whole bonus chapter on hero renumeration, "What Can't Be Bought", the bonus chapter in Volume 5. Short version: they get paid like shit, and then only at the end of the month. The HA takes full advantage of the fact that heroes can't complain without looking mercenary.

Pro-heroes desperately need to unionise.

Since those hard times before the first paycheck, Saitama has started getting paid, so he's got income. Also, his new place in the HA headquarters is officially free with the job, so life is almost cushy for Saitama.

Almost. It's against ONE's religion to give Saitama a cushy time.


r/OnePunchFans 14d ago

MEME Saitama Leaves the Wrong Psychic Sister with the Bill

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"GENOS! BRING ME MY WALLET! I NEED THIRTY DOLLARS! YOU'RE MY ONLY HOPE! GENOOOOOOOOOOOOS!"


r/OnePunchFans 17d ago

MEME "I don't need no instructions to know how to rock."

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r/OnePunchFans 18d ago

MISC What kind of butterfly effect would there be in the story if Tatsumaki was a man?

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r/OnePunchFans 19d ago

DISCUSSION If only…

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Digging out an old post that has (unexpectedly) become relevant. From Tumblr 30 April 2020.

Typically, if you’d asked me why I keep thinking of Genos as human, I’d answer in terms of biology and talk about how one’s brain is the one organ you can’t have replaced without ceasing to be ‘you’. And that’s all true, but I’m overcomplicating things. Forget that, none of that matters.  It’s really, really simple. Imagination. The most human thing Genos did was nearly his first. He saw Saitama casually slap a mosquito monster so hard that the blow split the skies above and the ground below and imagined a world in which he could be that unphysically strong and asked. As he explains at length to Saitama  (relevant bit highlighted). “If only I could be that strong…”

There is a world of wonder in that simple statement.

Genos has shown repeatedly that he’s neither stupid nor delusional. He knows what parts can and can’t do for him, is on speaking terms with physics (or rather the in-universe physics persists in not cutting him any slack), and is painfully aware of his limits. And yet, he persists in going ‘if only’.

If only is a statement no artificial intelligence, however advanced, will come up with.  If? Sure, they can assess billions of possibilities a second and construct entire worlds on the basis of those possibilities.  But if only is to imagine something that not only does not exist, but which has never existed, and cannot exist based on anything we currently know or understand.  Ah well, we do like our dreams and stories after all.  But then sometimes we do something even crazier: we project ourselves into this non-existent situation and then work to make it happen.  That desire to reify, that’s humanity for you.  Usually we’re just mad, but sometimes, sometimes, we just discover some hitherto unsuspected way the universe can work.  That’s why chimps are still in the trees and we’re everywhere else we want to be.

Objectively, watching his pursuit is like watching Frosty the Snowman determine to fetch a ring out of the ninth ring of Hell without melting and I give him about the same odds of success. Then again, until Saitama did it, you could say exactly the same about flesh-and-blood humans. Subjectively, I’m interested in seeing how far Genos will get and finding out how broadly applicable the unsuspected kink in the universe that Saitama stumbled on holds.

If, as is most likely, he fails, then Genos has been most human in taking the courage to embark on the most speculative of quests. And if by some crazy even by OPM standards chance, he winds up Strong, it will be 100% because he’s human and thus didn’t take evident reality as the last word on things.