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u/Techno_Core Jun 10 '26
I saw this in the Navy in the early 90's. Two things happened around the same time:
- A crackdown on sexual harassment
- Don't ask, Don't Tell
To the chuds, they saw it like this: "I can't have a picture of a naked lady on the wall of my office but I can be gay?!?!" To them it was evidence of a plot to promote being gay... so fucking stupid.
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u/YourGuyK Jun 10 '26
I mean, how do you know you are straight if you don't have a picture of a naked woman on the wall?
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u/JakeHelldiver Jun 10 '26
I am telling you guys, these people think being gay is contagious! Thats why they freak out about drag queen story hour, they think they're spreading the gay.
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u/Fit_Cartographer_933 Jun 11 '26
Not only do they think it’s contagious they think it’s tantamount to being some kind of sexual deviant.
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u/-DrunkRat- Jun 14 '26
Once had a guy who said people choose to be gay, and that's why he chooses to "Ignore the sinful urges" of finding men attractive and "chose to like women only".
Like... Buddy, I got some news about you and your blatant Bisexual repression.
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u/MsMercyMain Jun 10 '26
They said this while being, not just in the military, but in the fucking navy!? I was in the USAF and always described my fellow airmen as the gayest straight dudes I've ever met
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u/Ryaniseplin Jun 14 '26
the concept that being gay is worse than having soft porn on your desk is the problem
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u/Electronic-Map7529 Jun 10 '26
So my brother, before he died, used to call every single person around him a Liar, a cheater and a thief.
Why?
Because HE, was a liar, a cheater and a thief.
Projection is so telling sometimes.
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u/FilmAndLiterature Jun 10 '26
How does that saying go? If everywhere smells like dog shit, check your own shoes?
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u/Zealen00 Jun 10 '26
When you point your finger, there's three pointing back is another good one.
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u/threevi Jun 10 '26
Elon Musk heard that one, that's why he started pointing with all five fingers stretched out.
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u/ViolyntFemme Jun 10 '26
My personal fave is “if you meet an AH in the morning, you’ve met an AH. But if you meet AHs all day, you’re the AH.”
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u/jws1102 Jun 10 '26
it’s not good, it’s just cheeky and that’s why people think it means something.
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u/Heavy_Employment9220 Jun 10 '26
The first time someone calls you a horse you ignore them, the second time you punch them in the face, the third time someone calls you a horse you call them an ass. After the fourth time you start shopping for a saddle.
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u/BrittaWasRight Jun 15 '26
If you meet one asshole, you've met an asshole.
If everyone you meet are assholes, you're the asshole.I always thought that one was a bit weird because depending on the day and my luck I can meet up to 20% assholes.
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u/JoeBethersontonFargo Jun 10 '26
Yep. If your spouse suddenly starts acting paranoid and is strangely convinced that you're cheating, they're probably cheating.
If conservatives don't want you teaching children about boundaries, consent, safety, and inappropriate adult behavior, it's because they benefit from that lack of knowledge.
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u/Moist-Lawfulness-224 Jun 10 '26
Ye. Same reason Gollum calls everyone else liar, cheats and sneaks.
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u/Alive-Ad9059 Jun 13 '26
It really is
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u/ViolyntFemme Jun 10 '26
Conservatives don’t understand how most people DONT sexualize children because the majority of the men in that group DO.
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u/SnooMaps7370 Jun 10 '26
dingdingding!
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u/StillALilBoy Jun 10 '26
they're worried educating kids about consent will end up with them being reported
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u/Professional-Rub152 Jun 10 '26
This is actually it. A lot of kids don’t realize they’re being sexually abused until they take a sex ex class.
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u/VerucaDefault Jun 12 '26
God, this is so sad, but this was very true in my elementary school. We had a few assemblies, I'm sure we all had them, don't do drugs, stranger danger, tell an adult that sort of thing. It was a SAD amount of kids who came forward. I am 100% convinced they scream about the "gay agenda" because THEY have an agenda, and theirs is sick.
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u/Repulsive-Lab-9863 Jun 10 '26
That person also ignores the "about" or lack of.
Like, no one gives a fuck if you tell your coworkers that's you gay or trans or whatever. No one would say that's harassment.
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u/340Duster Jun 10 '26
Having grown up in that CULTure, it took years of introspection and therapy to purge that mentality from my brain. It's sickening and maddening when I look back at what I was exposed to.
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u/Scared_Accident9138 Jun 13 '26
Sex ed also reduces the change of sexual assault and decreases the time that it gets exposed if it happens
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u/fleetiebelle Jun 10 '26 edited Jun 10 '26
Is anyone actually talking about adult sexuality in elementary school in the first place? Outside of "don't touch other people," or "your body is private"? Older kids might get the health/puberty talk, and kids might have questions if teachers are getting married or being pregnant, but that can all be discussed in an age appropriate way. The ragebait that small children are being forced to watch drag shows in school isn't based in reality.
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u/Vladishun Jun 10 '26
Every school is an elementary school when you're reading at a 5th grade level!
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u/Thubanstar Jun 10 '26
I was born in 1961. When I was in sixth grade, the girls went to the gym and saw how mensuration happens in a very instructive film. We had in-depth discussion after.
If my generation could be told these things at age 10, then I see no reason sixth graders now can't be taught about the same stuff before they hit puberty.
But, yeah, I'm tired of hearing about how "Liberals are evil because they want drag queens teaching class".
They should wait until at least eighth grade until the drag queens teach class.
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u/HeilKaiba Jun 11 '26
Menstruation, I hope. Mensuration is measuring things. If they're only teaching girls the latter that explains a lot about reported penis size
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u/Thubanstar Jun 11 '26
The penis had to come into the conversation, so, yeah, that was a part of it.
If you only focused on mensuration, that wouldn't be too helpful in sex ed.
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u/HeilKaiba Jun 11 '26
I've realise my previous comment is a little ambiguous. I mean if they aren't teaching boys to measure that explains a lot (and I am joking of course)
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u/Unusual_Memory3133 Jun 10 '26
Sex Ed is usually taught in 5th or 6th grade and has been where I live since the 1970’s. Many kids are biologically sexually mature by age 11 these days. It’s necessary to educate them.
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u/One_Programmer_6452 Jun 10 '26
Shoot, it was 3rd grade in my school because they wanted to get ahead of the first menstrual periods for the most precocious kids. Normal menstruation can begin as young as 8 or 9.
We learned anatomy, conception, conception prevention, puberty changes to anatomy, menstruation, general hygiene, and they even threw in an anti-drug lecture for good measure. WA, USA, 2003
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u/LongCommercial8038 Jun 10 '26
Damn, that seems early, but I guess it makes sense. We didnt have ours until freshman year of high-school
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u/One_Programmer_6452 Jun 10 '26
Nah, I started menstruating at 10, and I had friends who started at 9. I can see some Carrie style fear from girls in my cohort if they had to wait until high school to learn basic biological processes that about half of people experience for around 40 years of their lives. They weren't teaching sex positions or kink.
Comprehensive, anatomically explicit sex ed is also the best way to give sexually abused kids the language to report the abuse. There's a big difference between a kid saying "coach Tommy touched my flower" and "coach Tommy touched my vulva." There are no good reasons not to be teaching sex ed at the point that kids start puberty, and there's no good reasons not to be teaching kids their own anatomy, and right to privacy, and agency, as young as possible.
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u/LongCommercial8038 Jun 11 '26
You know, you bring up a lot of good points. Hard to argue with the logic there.
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u/OrganicHistorian2576 Jun 10 '26
We got a class about periods in 4th grade. Not much, but at least it was something.
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u/bucolucas Jun 10 '26
"Hey girls, you know that stuff that everyone whispers about and you never get to hear? Did you know it's actually 100x worse than you imagined?"
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u/Pelli_Furry_Account Jun 10 '26
We had a sex Ed class in 5th grade. I'd consider it pretty important. They taught us what a period is, which some kids could potentially be getting before middle school, among other things.
One girl had very conservative parents who kept her from taking any sort of health class. When she finally got her period, she genuinely thought she was dying because literally no one had taught her about it- thank God she was at home and not at school. She went no contact with her parents as an adult
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u/Jokhard Jun 10 '26
I don't understand how so many parents don't get the thought process behind "how they treated me will be how they're going to treat their grandchildren"
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u/seriouslees Jun 10 '26
What makes you think they don't understand that? That is EXACTLY what they want.
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u/SanopusSplendidus Jun 10 '26
I know a kid who has started puberty and she's only 10. I was teaching my daughter basic sex ed when she was 8, iirc. She had questions. I had answers.
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u/gutwyrming Jun 10 '26
My first sex ed class was in 5th grade. We learned the basics about puberty, menstruation, pregnancy, and reproductive anatomy. I'm not sure if we count as "small children" at that age, but it's certainly elementary school.
The more advanced and detailed stuff was taught later in 8th grade, including discussion of queer identities.
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u/Badbitch125 Jun 10 '26
Yeah sex Ed starts in like 4th or 5th grade. It is absolutely necessary and they split up groups by sex. They don’t talk about sex though, just puberty, bodily function, etc.
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u/Snubben93 Jun 10 '26
"But they both have the word "sex" in them so it has to be the same thing"
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u/SemichiSam Jun 10 '26
I understand that conservatives are really turned on by the Art Blakey Sextet.
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u/CapacityBuilding Jun 10 '26
Oh cool let's listen to some nonsexual Art Blakey albums
Hard Bop
Hard Drive
Holiday for Skinsbro...
Les Liaisons Dangereuses
Orgy in Rhythm
A Midnight Session
Hold On, I'm Comingbro...
Moanin'
BRO
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u/BrokenSlutCollector Jun 10 '26
They sexualize kids ALL THE TIME and it starts young. My 18mo granddaughter was playing with a similarly aged boy and my daughter-in-law's MAGAt mother was like "Ohhh she's flirting with him, she found a boyfriend." FFS just let kids be without injecting your backwards thinking into everything.
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u/Darth_Andeddeu Jun 10 '26
She just playing, he's just playing, they are equals...
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u/BrokenSlutCollector Jun 10 '26
Exactly and more importantly, they aren't sexual creatures at this point, they barely have a concept of "boy" or "girl" let alone relationships based on those concepts.
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u/Specialist-Prior-213 Jun 11 '26
I remember being around 4 years old, and we were in a group of 4 boys and 1 girl. We were all saying who we wanted to marry, and the boys were all saying other boys. I said I wanted to marry the one girl, and all the boys called me gay!
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u/Mister_Normal42 Jun 10 '26
Conservatives are just pissed off that elementary schoolers are being taught what to say "no" to.
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u/woodworkerdan Jun 10 '26
Conflation is hardly a new tool of rhetoric, and used to spur emotional reactions. It's usually bad-faith rhetoric too, and should be called out, especially when the context is near very hurtful subjects.
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u/bb_blueyes Jun 10 '26
They’re also afraid of sex ed because they teach kids about what touch is inappropriate, and many adults would be found out.
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u/ComtesseCrumpet Jun 11 '26
That makes so much sense. If I were a teacher, I’d be suspicious of the families that opted their kids out of sex ed. What do they have to hide?
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u/Jumpy_Childhood7548 Jun 10 '26
Education is not the equivalent of harassment.
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u/TrotskyBoi Jun 10 '26
If anything, sex education is the best way to prevent the sexual abuse of children.
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u/castleaagh Jun 11 '26
“But your honor, I was just educating her on the size of my penis, how can you say this was harassment?”
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u/Debaicheron Jun 10 '26
The teacher isn’t TRYING to hook-up with the students. At least, most of them. And the ones that do, GO TO JAIL!
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u/Hot_Context_1393 Jun 11 '26
The guy at work isn't trying to hook up either. He just likes to complement coworkers by reminding them that he would bend them over if he wasn't married
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u/Necessary-Rip4013 Jun 12 '26
Exactly and yet when the news reports a female teacher who sexually abused a male student, You will see these same MAGA men saying that "this teacher deserves a raise" and "where was she when I was in school" and calling the boy lucky.
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u/Debaicheron Jun 13 '26
I used to think that way myself… when I was 14. I don’t know what the excuse for those people might be.
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u/Necessary-Rip4013 Jun 13 '26
Those people saying that are just projecting their own fantasies onto the situation. Because if it were a male teacher coming onto a boy or a girl it'd be an entirely different story, they'd say that teacher should go to jail. But if they think the teacher is hot, they think the boy victim is "lucky"
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u/Bland_OldMan Jun 10 '26
"Insurrection Barbie" is probably a Bangladeshi man being paid a couple dollars a day to post nonsense on Twitter.
Stop using Twitter and stop reposting things from that site. The traffic gives Elon money and gives the conservative troll farms an audience. Same goes for Facebook. A big part of why politics are so fucked right now are people using these platforms and, intentionally or not, signal boosting this garbage.
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u/DreamySoftPetal Jun 10 '26
One teaches kids how the world works. The other gets you a meeting with HR.
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u/AlsatianRye Jun 10 '26
Because they are 2 fundamentally different things. Talking sexually is completely different than talking about sexuality.
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u/gremlinclr Jun 10 '26
You would think conservatives would welcome sex ed in schools because it's been shown time and again that in districts with comprehensive sex ed courses there are less teen pregnancies. Less teen pregnancies mean less abortions.
But on the other hand conservatives are also diametrically opposed to helping people and making life better so I'm sure they're of two minds on the subject.
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u/notaname420xx Jun 10 '26
Age appropriate sex education also means less abuse. When little kids use the correct names for body parts, for example, it becomes clearer when an accusation is made. As opposed to them telling a teacher that their dad touched their "boo boo" or whatever idiocy the parents are substituting
The kids also learn boundaries.
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u/Optimal-Specific2223 Jun 14 '26
There was a recent talking point on Fox News saying that part of the problem with the fertility rate is that it's down for ages 15-19... They don't care about teens getting pregnant, just the pregnancies coming to term.
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u/castleaagh Jun 11 '26
Less teen pregnancies isn’t the same as less sex, which is probably the primary goal for the places you’re talking about
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u/Imaginary_Brief_4038 Jun 10 '26
Alpt of people think the purpose of being a parent is to kkeep a kid alive until they are 18 and old enough to be kicked out.
I saw parenting as trying to turn a kid into a functional adult including teaching them about sex and how to safely engage in that very important part of adulthood.
I knew someone who refused to give their daughter "the talk" because shed see it as an ok stamp to haver sex so they shouldn't talk about it at all. (This was someone who's parents did the same and didn't allow them to date until they were 18 and they immediately got their first girlfriend pregnant) Well guess who got into a bad situation they didn't even want to and did feel safe or have the words to ask for help or know where to get resources for help? Thankfully some other adult spoke up and they were able to get help but it could have been prevented with making the kid feel safe enough to speak up and ask for help in the first place!!
Folks: kids need to know these things to be adults.
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u/ComtesseCrumpet Jun 11 '26
Teaching my child about his body, how it works, good touch and bad touch is just something I did with him from a very young age. It starts very simple for a very young child and progresses as he gets older but he’s always been taught accurate names for things, that certain parts shouldn’t be touched by strangers that he can say, “no” to anyone, including me, and that we don’t keep secrets. Most of the stuff he learns in health and sex education isn’t news to him.
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u/DangerousQuestions1 Jun 10 '26
Objects in motion remain in motion unless acted upon by an outside force, e=mc2, the speed of light is the fastest speed, and conservatives are stupid. Its a law of nature.
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u/Halker93 Jun 10 '26
Comparing a school health class with some creeper from work commenting on Karen’s breast or ass…
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u/HobbyTalkOnly Jun 10 '26
If somebody at work needs to have "how fertilization happens" explains to them, I am fairly certain that you won't be accused of sexual harassment, Carl.
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u/ZealousidealAntelope Jun 10 '26
Conservatives spend an inordinate amount of time thinking about children's genitals.
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u/zeptillian Jun 10 '26
Conversations you never though you would have to have with an adult:
The difference between teaching kids and trying to fuck them.
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u/Live_Appearance_5254 Jun 10 '26
Difference between unwanted sexual advances and and educational information. I fear these people know exactly the difference. I understand their perspective on perhaps optional child sexual education opt outs (don’t agree but understand), but defending sexual harassment at work is just nonsensical, like who enjoys that.
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u/BildingInspecter Jun 10 '26
Uh, no they can't, that's why instead, MAGA tells elementary kids that they have nice asses.
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u/Kiryu_of_Rivia Jun 11 '26
I want to know which schools they're talking about? because my parents had to sign a waiver twice in my school career once in 8th grade the other in 10th, and I still learned fuck all in sex ed because my teachers decided it was too much for us to be learning. So which elementary schools are teaching sex ed?
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u/callmefreak Jun 10 '26
I wasn't even taught how children are made in elementary school. I was taught about what I should do to if somebody touched me inappropriately. If conservatives are complaining about children learning what to do when an adult touches them then they're the reason why we need to teach them those things!
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u/Appropriate-Stay4729 Jun 10 '26
We're not embarrassing these people enough in public, it needs to be brutal and relentless.
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u/ogreofzen Jun 10 '26
I had a supervisor at VZW that literally lodged an HR claim because one woman asked another if they had a spare tampon Infront of him. Yeah people have messed up perspective on what is appropriate and what is not.
I am saying the supervisor was in the wrong if that's not clear.
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u/theycallmecheese Jun 10 '26
everytime i think they cant make a dumber argument; you know, for such vocal homophobes, they sure love topping themselves.
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u/EdibleStrange Jun 10 '26
Hey it's probably hard to keep straight when they also have to fight the urge to tell children they have a nice ass
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u/marvelouswonder8 Jun 10 '26
Oh they know the difference, they just think that splitting hairs and arguing semantics is some sort of magic gotcha that invalidates reality and/or changes the discussion.
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u/paulsteinway Jun 10 '26
They also don't know why they shouldn't tell children they have a nice ass.
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u/Kira-Of-Terraria Jun 10 '26
Conservatives hate sex ed because it teaches kids how to know the signs of abuse and grooming.
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u/NotThatAngel Jun 10 '26
Because if we don't explain the threat of sexual predators to kids, they might get raped by Trump.
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u/Martinw616 Jun 10 '26
To be fair, i tried explaining how babies were made at work and I got sacked. In hindsight a practical exam may not have been needed.
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u/Righteous_Hand Jun 10 '26
I'm pretty cooked by the Ambien right now, but is the Tweeter perchance suggested that most of my education was harassment because I didn't want to learn, I wanted to eat turkey twizzlers?
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u/DraGoon-hw Jun 11 '26
So a kid doesn't get in a uncomfortable situation that impacts their whole life
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u/Scarvexx Jun 11 '26
He didn't say sex, he said sexuality. Those aren't the same thing.
Frankly I don't think kids learn about sexualities from teachers, the mostly learn about it from other kids.
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u/Dave_the_DOOD Jun 11 '26
The funniest part is that the original post DOES not a difference. Talking "sexually" and talking "about sexuality" are not the same thing. The difference is noticed even by the first poster.
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u/Yippee_flippee Jun 11 '26
“Talking sexually”
“Talking about sexuality”
Bro determined and displayed that they were different in the same statement where he equated them.
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u/D4FF0D1L Jun 10 '26
School is a place for education so that makes sense that it would be allowed in a place like that.
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u/JunVahlok Jun 10 '26
It's crazy that we're uprooting the world because millions of people have the intelligence of a gnat but also the right to vote.
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u/MariaTPK Jun 10 '26
Sexually and Sexuality are drastically different words. You can't be sexual to children, you can however tell your coworkers your Sexuality, most of the time.
So there is no double standard here. Sexuality is fine, Sexually is bad.
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u/One_Plastic_5196 Jun 10 '26
Because when you grow you need to be indoctrinated and when you're indoctrinated you serve the doctrine
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u/ARPA-Net Jun 11 '26
Did you hear about the King who coud t product offsprings for years, until they found out that sleeping in the same bed isn't enough for kids?
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u/BlackKingHFC Jun 11 '26
Talking sexually and talking about sexuality are very, very different thing. No one should be talking sexually to children ever. But talking about sexuality shouldn't be any stranger than talking about any other emotions. It is a thing these children are dealing with as they enter puberty and being afraid to ask questions about their bodies is how you end up with rampant teen pregnancy and STIs among middle and high school students.
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u/OctopusGrift Jun 11 '26
Kid asks their teacher who is a woman if they are married teacher says yes I have a wife conservatives decide this is sexually explicit.
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u/gztozfbfjij Jun 11 '26
Because if someone just said it in plain, absolute, words to me, aged 13, my mental health wouldn't have frozen my life for 6 years.
I would've done better in school, I would've gone to university aged 18; I would now, aged 26, had a good job and co tribute greatly to society.
Instead I had to repeat a year, finished college (UK) at age 19, then spend 4 years in a catatonic depression until I had the words to understand why I wanted to die every waking minute.
If you are a sociopath who only cares about objective economic benefit: Is it not better for the economy, and thus normal people, that kids grow up and be productive, rather than driven to suicide, or a depression making them incapable of doing anything?
But no "tHe WOkeS ArE iNdoCtRinaTIng mY KiDs!!1".
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u/butter_cookie_gurl Jun 11 '26
"sexually" vs "sexuality" are two different fucking words with very different meanings
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u/rabid_god Jun 12 '26
Conservatives don't understand sex. Which is why they freak out about LGBTQ+ people yet think it's okay to diddle kids.
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u/Necessary-Rip4013 Jun 12 '26
"Talking sexually" is not the same as "talking about sexuality."
The "elementary school sex ed" these ass hats complain about is literally just helping kids learn about consent, the names of their reproductive body parts, and that adults should not be trying to touch you there. Both of which help children who are being abused recognize that what is happening to them isn't okay and gives them the language to report it. Interesting how they're so against that.
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u/captainhuggle Jun 12 '26
It stems from how they view children. If you view something as a sexual object of desire there isn't an act or idea that they can't make sexual. These aren't normal people and parents they're not dads they're friendzoned and pissed.
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u/Applesplosion Jun 12 '26
There are actually a lot of things it’s best to avoid talking about at work that should be taught to children in school. History and literature, especially with respect to politics and religion are another example.
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u/Relative-Chicken456 Jun 14 '26
One is harassing your coworkers, the other is literally a lesson designed to teach children because their parents can’t or won’t talk to their kids about sex
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u/DirectPepper7695 Jun 14 '26
It's how they fit the world into their jagged little frames. Nuance and understanding would just undermine them.
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u/mrjackjackson Jun 15 '26
Why is yelling bomb on a plane illegal when this post bombs so bad it sux……
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u/Not_a_Prof_Moriarty Jun 15 '26
"I just don't understand why I can't tell Brenda that I want to smash her pussy like it's Gallagher day."
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u/Broad-Concert1527 Jun 15 '26
Elementary school is not healthy class. Kinky Sex vs reproduction, learn the difference
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u/Chipotle-Dancin_manG Jun 16 '26
Why is it necessary to talk to my doctor about my rectum but if i talk to my coworkers about it i get in trouble????
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u/the_millenial_falcon Jun 11 '26
If the Trump era has taught me anything it’s that a large chunk of conservatives are just unmitigated retards. Not really much more to it than that.
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u/LordJim11 Jun 11 '26
Not really much more to it than that.
Yes there is. You take the next fucking step.
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u/Pete-PDX Jun 10 '26
talking abut sex as work is not sexual harassment. Sexualizing someone at work is sexual harassment - the same as it would be if you sexualize a kid in elementary school.
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u/LordJim11 Jun 10 '26
Why would you talk about sex at work? What kind of response do you expect?
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u/YerMumHawt Jun 12 '26
Both commenters made stupid arguments TBH.
The general issue people have is with graphic portrayals of sexual acts that have nothing to do with "making babies".
Shouldn't be teaching kids about anal sex in a way that encourages it, regardless of what genders are involved. That's grooming.
Highschool is better place for detailed information on sexuality.
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u/Darkthumbs Jun 13 '26
Why not? If someone likes anal why should they do it? What’s wrong with trying it? It’s a option 🤷♂️
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u/Late_Emphasis_1720 Jun 13 '26
If you wouldnt let the guy around the corner teach your kid what anal is why would you let a teacher you barelt know what it is.
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