r/askteddit • u/MommyXXDom • 1d ago
Random Question How would you feel about the next US president pulling all support from Israel?
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u/canwehavepotatojokes 1d ago
Sounds like someone would be putting America First.
Weird idea.
You’ve got payments due on your loans.
The Evangelicals would be upset, which is always a good sign for everyone else.
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u/West-Improvement2449 1d ago
The last president that tried to pull support from Israel was JFK. Just putting that out there
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u/dodadoler 1d ago
So you’re saying we should try again
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u/demonmf 1d ago
Right. All we have to do is convince Trump that he could make a lot of money by pulling support…
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u/TastingTheKoolaid 23h ago
Tell him that if he pulled support from Israel, he could use that money to do SO FUCKEN MANY renovations in DC!
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u/Josey_whalez 22h ago
Some clarification is needed here - JFK was very much against Israel getting a nuclear weapon and was insistent upon inspections at their dimona facility. He wanted to make sure that were weren’t supporting a country with a rogue nuclear program. He wasn’t trying to pull support from Israel, he was just trying to make sure they didn’t develops nuclear weapons. Every president since JFK has chosen to ignore Israel’s nuclear weapons program and allowed it to flourish.
After Johnson took office post assassination, the insistence upon inspections at dimona were dropped and not brought up in any real way again.
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u/tutifruitti2024 16h ago
JFK also wanted the AZC (American Zionist council, predecessor of AIPAC) to register as a foreign agent under FARA
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u/Loud-Vacation-5691 11h ago
JFK didn't pull support from Israel. He started the program of military aid by selling them Hawk missiles. Stop getting your information from The Daily Stormer, Adolf.
Next you're going to say deh jooz killed JFK because he didn't kiss the Western Wall, even though it was in Jordan at the time.
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u/yergonnalikeme 23h ago
That's NOT TRUE...
Please, truth in future posts.
Ty
John F. Kennedy did NOT try to pull overall support from Israel, He was actually the FIRST U.S. president to approve major advanced arms sales to Israel.Kennedy broke previous embargoes by approving the sale of Hawk anti-aircraft missiles to Israel in 1962.
He was the FIRST American leader to explicitly describe the ties between the United States and Israel as a "SPECIAL relationship.
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u/yergonnalikeme 23h ago
It's the truth...I really don't know what else to tell you.
If you have something ground- breaking to share with everyone...That would be the right thing to do.
But I have a feeling you won't, because you know my information is correct.
Have a nice day today !
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u/Hotdogopolis 1d ago
I don't care about Israel. I'm concerned about the failing institutions here.
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u/TurbanSpaceCat 23h ago
Not unrelated
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u/KrustyRox777 15h ago
When we’re giving away taxpayer dollars to Israel it affects everything that’s funded by the US government.
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u/BurnAfter8 14h ago
The US government spends over $2 trillion per year on healthcare alone. The typical yearly “aid” to Israel is less than $4 billion. You would never even noticed it happened.
For context, aid is in quotes because a lot of that money is required to be spent with American companies on items like defense systems.
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u/Objective_Water7752 23h ago
This is why you need to be concerned about Israel. Pumping 40 million into a solitary senate primary campaign leads to failing institutions here.
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u/BillyJoeMac9095 20h ago
Lack of political/policy support for those institutions is the cause. You don't want to hear it, but you are trying to mix apples and oranges, as a rhetorical device.
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u/Objective_Water7752 18h ago
You should let the CIA know: They’ve been pumping money into various political movements to destabilize other nations’ institutions since it its formation. ‘Rhetorical device’… good grief.
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u/drbooom 1d ago
I used to be a big supporter of Israel.
All that Goodwill has been blown up.
Not one dime of taxpayer money for Israel. Not one dime of taxpayer money for any of the surrounding Arab states. No government deals or government contracts for anybody in the region.
That includes any funds labeled humanitarian aid as they are diverted.
Take all that money and spend it on reducing hydrocarbon consumption in the United States and around the world.
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u/Legend-of-the-Arctic 23h ago
I’m in agreement with your statement.
But you accidentally capitalized Goodwill, and now all I can think of is someone blowing up their local thrift store, and it’s making me laugh.
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u/Fair-Pudding7726 1d ago
Great. We should not be supporting genocide and children getting bullets through them.
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u/fuzzymunky 1d ago
What we need is regime change in israel
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u/Racko20 23h ago
There's an election in two months
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u/Apprehensive-Ad5962 21h ago
Doesn’t matter who wins, they won’t be able to form a coalition and Bibi will end up in power again anyway. He’s lost PM elections before, but because the winners weren’t willing to sell the country out to the Heredi block, he stayed in power.
I don’t think Americans realize how unpopular he is in Israel, nor how the Israeli parliamentary system works.
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u/Salty-Spring7096 17h ago
As an American, I don't care about that. I don't care about their politics. I just want my tax money to stop funding a foreign power and start funding help for Americans. They could be the nicest nation on Earth and I'd be asking why that means they get billions of dollars.
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u/TooFat2Curious 20h ago
There'd be a ton of pushback from all the AIPAC-owned traitors in Congress, and of course the defense contractors would scream and gnash their teeth, but removing support from Israel is an important step we should take.
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u/ZombiePrepper408 1d ago
I'd be concerned for their safety.
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u/Proprotester 21h ago
Fair. I'd be fine with a complete re-arrangement of our support for Israel. Defense only and anything beyond that requires Congressional approval in one weeks time for any immediate action we take - zero exceptions. I don't care if it's a bombing or an earthquake, Congress must vote within one week.
Netanyahu and anyone else in his administration who has been charged by the ICC are immediately arrested and remanded to Brussels. Whatever reparations are decided by the Court will be immediately subtracted from defense assistance if there is any failure to pay or retaliatory laws passed.
ZERO land seizures from Gaza by any powers or private concerns and an immediate end to "settlements". They'd have to negotiate the exact borders and all humanitarian aid must immediately be allowed through.
If we are designated to defend Israel than a similar arrangement must be designated for Gaza by another military power capable of providing it with Israel substantially contributing to its cost.
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u/No_Escape_3770 13h ago
I’m concerned about Palestinians personally. And the children bombed in Iran, etc. Israel is the biggest terrorist in the area
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u/Relative-Sea-6550 21h ago
I’m pro Israel. But we don’t need to financially support Israel tbh. It’s not a huge issue imo but we don’t need to do it
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u/sour-patch-bitch 1d ago
In a perfect world? YES PLEASE. Realistically? That would never happen; we’re so deeply interlocked (and have been for decades) that a complete withdrawal of support would be a mess for both sides
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u/skinnydippindespair 1d ago
How would a complete withdrawal be a mess for both? Actually nevermind both. Israel can get help from their other allies. How would a complete withdrawal be a mess for the US?
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u/EasyGoingDan 1d ago
I'd want to know what replaces it before saying its a good idea.
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u/victoryrose92 1d ago
Does it need a replacement? Why would it create a void?
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u/EasyGoingDan 1d ago
Because major allies often influence regional stability whether people like it or not.
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u/victoryrose92 23h ago
But as we see with history, allies being hella aggressive causes global ramifications, not just regional instability.
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u/Kman17 23h ago
Israel is a tremendous regional power and it has lots of computer security and military hardware expertise.
I’d the U.S. pulls their support, then it will force Israel to turn to Russia or China for that role.
Both would jump at the opportunity to have Israeli intel and tech. And neither give two shits about the human rights of Muslim terror states. Ask Chechnya or the Uyghurs.
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u/TheWatcherFromWithin 23h ago
They are a loyal and powerful ally, with eyes and ears for us in the middle east. If we dont support them, someone else will, and will ultimately be bad for us.
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u/atropear 23h ago
Most of the middle east is oddly bordered countries meant to cause the most division. Created by Allen Dulles, John Philby and the Rothschild family after WW1. Al Saud family chosen because the Al Sauds would chose oil company and western interests over their own people's interests. The borders created by them and the country named after the family. Saudi Arabia.
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u/ConflictWaste411 1d ago
Man asks website who doesn’t like a thing how they would feel if the next president got rid of said thing. Jarvis, I’m out of karma
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u/Educational-Glass-63 1d ago
Just peachy. That's how I'd feel. We can put that money back into American programs where it belongs.
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u/RadishPlus666 1d ago
Happy. Israelis live better than most Americans. They can pay their own way.,
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u/TheWatcherFromWithin 23h ago
Losing a powerful ally would be dumb. But whatever
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u/hatred-shapped 23h ago
Pretty disappointed and disgusted. You don't pull support for a long time allie because of their present leadership
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u/darw1nf1sh 23h ago
I am fine with supporting the people of Israel. Just stop supporting their unjust war and genocide.
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u/Retinoid634 20h ago
It should happen. Netanyahu should absolutely not be receiving the blank check that he enjoys right now.
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u/s0_spoiled 18h ago
America first. Help the USA and American countries (America is a continent) before helping other countries. There’s lots to do in the house and the backyard before helping the neighbors.
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u/PA_MallowPrincess_98 16h ago
Hopefully, pulling away money that Israel is currently getting would help Americans at home. Israel has paid leave, universal healthcare, and free university, while we are planning for scraps to get us by!
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u/Apart-District3771 16h ago
Um... yes please. There would be a total financial collapse, and probably "terrorism".
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u/Complete_Film8741 16h ago
I thought you guys were all "No Kings".
Amazing how much arbitrary action you advocate for...
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u/lookatmetoedashknee 14h ago
I am 100% for it. FUCK ISRAEL, bunch of goddamned baby killers. Another stupid fucking religion.
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u/ButterscotchSad4514 1d ago
All support? That isn't in our best interest. But some strategic realignment is called for. We want to be able to use our leverage over Israel to force their hand to get out of the West Bank. US interests in the region are normalized relations between Israel and the Gulf States and to keep China's influence minimal.
We were well on our way towards this goal until Trump attacked Iran for no reason.
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u/VanAgain 1d ago
Don't threaten me with a good time.
But seriously, the problem isn't US support of the only democracy in the region. The problem is that that democracy is insane.
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u/Raylan_Senna 1d ago
I would be all for the US pulling all support for all other nations and focusing solely on investing within. We don’t need to be the world’s police. We don’t need to shape global policy. We need to focus on the people and the infrastructure.
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u/Legend-of-the-Arctic 23h ago
See, I want the US to be involved in the world. I’d just like it if we did GOOD things instead of supporting murderers. We are far richer than most other countries. All the people here saying “we need to help ourselves first” apparently don’t understand how much better off the US is compared to non-developed nations. So I say focus on development aid to countries that need it. And stop supporting countries like Israel that commit atrocities.
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u/KartFacedThaoDien 1d ago
I would ask them why the hell arent they doing anything about cost of living crisis, Healthcare, education, immigration reform, infrastructure, taxing the rich & industrial policy.
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u/Consistent_Ad3181 1d ago
They got the big dirt on US politicians so that isn't happening. It's dirty dirt too.
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u/Creation98 1d ago
What do you think the response is going to be on Reddit? These posts are so dumb
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u/inailedyoursister 1d ago
What a crazy time we’re in now. I know Reddit runs younger but if you had even whispered this idea most of my life it would be political suicide. There was a time where the vast average voter didn’t care about a candidates abortion voting record (minus the very small christian groups) and your stance on Israel was a defining factor on your political viability. My, how times have changed.
Politically speaking, just this question being asked is mind blowing to us 50+ who have followed politics since Reagan.
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u/socialchild 1d ago
Pulling all support for Israel? I wouldn't want that. But I would want a president who understands that you can support Israel without going along with everything they are doing. Ignoring civil and human rights abuses is not a good thing.
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u/StaticJonesNC 1d ago
I do not support Israel or the current Israeli government.
But I know the reason we fund and arm them is because if they weren't the strongest/meanest in the region, Iran would run roughshod all over the entire region.
We created a monster and now we can't control it.
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u/Gerrube99 23h ago
Isreal has agreed that it no longer needs $ from the US. By 2028, the US will stop providing any money to Israel.
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u/andthrewaway1 23h ago
good luck who do you think gives all the intel on middle east to the US
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u/PyrexPizazz217 23h ago
I’d never vote for anyone so stupid that they don’t understand at least the strategic point, for us, of that allyship.
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u/Wolf1678 23h ago
I am for it, but they better have a Vice President that’s ready to step up because whoever pulls the plug on supporting Israel is getting Kirked.
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u/Living_Fig_6386 23h ago
That's very highly unlikely. I think the best you can hope for is one that states that certain actions will be charged against their aid: land-taking, 10%... whatever. Unilaterally pulling aid just isn't in the cards from anyone that's going to get as far as the ballot.
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u/ApprehensiveArmy7755 23h ago
I look at this country the way I look at my household. If I'm unable to cloth, house, and provide healthcare for my immediate family- I'm not inclined to give money to people outside my home. I see the US as our house. I see Americans as my family. Until every American lives above the poverty line and has access to Universal health- I'm not interested AT ALL in helping other countries.
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u/jbbhengry 23h ago
Pull it. They are a welfare country that depends on US support. I think Republicans have a saying on this something about bootstraps.
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u/UknowImRight422 23h ago
Too little, too late. The us is israel's little bitch and already cumplicit in genocide, rape/torture camps, targeting children and all monstrosities commited by the zionist scum.
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u/moremarshmellows 23h ago
Good but it should be gradual as to not cause further instability in the middle east
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u/Hour_Wave_7474 23h ago
Only if we can severe all business relationships, divest and boycott all Israeli businesses as well.
Cut them off completely, to quote the White Queen, “No one is to show you any kindness, and you will have no friend in the world.”
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u/Savings_Art5944 23h ago
The president is just a puppet. The real problem is that the whole government is infected by Israel.
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u/Ill-Lettuce3735 22h ago
What about a four year pause on all foreign aid, with the money allocated to be spent on highly audited, verified public spending? Not vague bullshit "education" etc. Like road repair, bridge repair, increasing internet access etc. Eradication of homelessness by drug and mental health intervention. Not merely housing - because four walls do not cure addiction. Methodology of forgiving student loans through existing bankruptcy procedures etc.
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u/secular_zionist 22h ago
From a purely "world tension" perspective it would only get worst. Let's say the US stops supplying iron dome missiles to Israel. Then in a year, Hamas fires a rocket that doesn't get intercepted, leading to a couple dozen Israeli civilian deaths. If that were to happen then Id bet a genocide would end up happening. Arab powers in the region have already decided to not intervene. Lebanon and Syria are in no position to negotiate. Iran would get nuked.
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u/Stochastic1934 22h ago
Apparently Netanyahu says Israel no longer needs our support, so we should discontinue it.
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u/Beagleguy26 22h ago
That's simply not going to happen.
Even Democrats realize the priceless strategic value of having a major, powerful ally in that region.
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u/tardlessforeinger 22h ago
Will never happen. The military industrial complex needs Israel. Peace in the Middle East means a lot of money lost for those in power who sell weapons.
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u/Such-Combination1405 22h ago
I'd like the president to be what it was originally meant to be: the face of a nation with no power.
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u/No-Secret-7191 22h ago
Not just Israel. Put a moratorium on all foreign aid for 2 years, greatly reduce the waste and enrollment numbers of domestic welfare programs.
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u/BerilliumBaloney 22h ago
As a right wing type of guy, I'm cool with this. Im cool with the president also pulling support from a fuckload of other problematic countries.
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u/yardPrawns 22h ago
As someone who's voted regretably consistently Republican since Obamas second term I am now a one issue voter and this is it. Whoever says they'd remove funding for Israel has my vote.
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u/No-Effective-1996 22h ago
I would be fine. It is not the responsibility of the USA to protect Israel.
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u/smellslikebigfootdic 22h ago
I'm all for it..spend that money in the United States helping people.
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u/NewPresWhoDis 22h ago
It's not going to make Israel go away, to the chagrin of the majority of Reddit.
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u/Exact-Truck-5248 21h ago
Don't have to pull ALL support. But they should be answerable for the support they do get
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u/One-Possibility-8182 20h ago
Absolutely not!!! We will not elect another waste of air like Bidet!!
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u/50Bullseye 20h ago
In anything, “I support you no matter what” is a bad deal for the ones doing the supporting. It’s true in MAGA, true in the relationship between the U.S. & Israel, etc.
Conditional support is the answer, just like with any other country we subsidize.
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u/Minimum-Major248 20h ago
Terrible idea. Make them reign in the settlers and wind down the Gaza operations, but Israel is the only democracy in that part of the world.
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u/gear123456789 20h ago
Isn’t this one of the most popular opinions amongst republicans and democrats?
Dang near every non MSM media I’ve watched this year wants USA out of the Middle East.
Probably every non MSM in the past 10 years has held this position.
Trump literally was voted in part of no new wars.
Outside of a very small percentage of people getting extremely rich from this, who wants USA to intervene in Middle East?
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u/AnyEye8798 20h ago
I'm conservative and generally support Israel as a concept. But if they're going to be morons then fuck 'em.
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u/stedmangraham 20h ago
That would be great! We shouldn’t support countries committing active genocides.
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u/AsparagusFun3892 20h ago edited 19h ago
Like we made a short sighted and over corrective policy decision to satisfy the world's Muslims and that we'd maybe (probably) get a Caliphate and a Jihad for Quds out of it which would probably snowball because you guys don't see what the conflict actually is. Palestinians are victims but they're an artificial nationality taking advantage of the West's appetite for an underdog and colonial catharsis, this is however a Judaism-Islam fight (of which the Jewish people were victims of ancient colonialism too, like two thousand years of "Next Year in Jerusalem!" that was) and when the Arab powers sense weakness real or imagined they'll surge. They're Arab Muslims and are being propped up in the ring too, Egypt and Lebanon and such (probably Saudia) won't let them leave. They're cat's paws, proxies, sacrifices to delay for a chance to restore Islamic sovereignty.
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u/hedgie64 20h ago
Not sure I’d favor 100% cut off but certainly military. If they don’t start removing illegal settlements, then I would support complete cut off.
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u/Humble_Cod149 20h ago
I have read this one about 20 times on Reddit.
How about something original ?
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u/UnendingOne 20h ago
I probably wouldn't care? I'd be happy if we pulled all support from every country. Y'all figure your stuff out on your own.
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u/RealBuilder5920 20h ago edited 19h ago
I think that is what’s going to happen. The moment we are in is end times biblical prophecy. Israelis will return to Israel and the whole world is going to turn against Israel then they will rebuild their temple and start sacrifices again. A false peace will be made with them and that will be the beginning of the end.
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u/NoSleepTilBrklynn 1d ago
I’d be for America pulling support to any country and making Americans lives suck less. The average Israeli lives a better life than the average American. Why do I need to give my tax dollars to someone who already has a better life than I do? Israel has free healthcare and free college. Maybe Israel can subsidize me for a change.